Gamerr Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 Hello. Recently I have read back in the history of "Dutch Angels", a private board for all dutch/belgian people in tip.it. Now I think it's out of date, since nobody has been added there lately but I was wondering if it isn't a good idea to make private boards like that per country? Ofcourse not every country in the world should get one but most RuneScape players come from USA, Australia, Belgium, Holland, Germany, UK, ... And I always like to know which people are belgian/dutch on these boards and talk in our own language in private boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyw3000 Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 I'm totally 100% against this. 1. Tipit is an enlgish only board, where texts in other languages must be provided with a translation. 2. We're a huge community, and we shouldnt discriminate against people jsut because they cant speak a language or are a different race. I know that sounds harsh, but at the end of the day not being allowed to view a belgian board because i'm not belgian is racist in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsavi Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 We'll have to see what an admin thinks of this, my guess is that this is a no-go. Edit: And I thought that Dutch Angels was some sort of secret? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouchy Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 Wouldn't it just be easier to make your own board for a certain language, and advertise it in your signature, then going through all the hassle of making this thread? My relaxation method involves a bottle of lotion, beautiful women, and partial nudity. Yes I get massages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsavi Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 Finding a host with the required things to install a forum, (Not necessarily phpBB) which would generally be apache/mySQL5/PHP5, would cost, and be without question harder to set up than a thread, I would say. And if this was done, I don't think there would be a separate on for every country with a language other than English. For example, you could have one for Finland, but there are so few of us, so having one for FInland/Sweden/Norway/Denmark would be a better idea. Or, for another example, not just Estonia, but Estonia/Latvia/Lithuania etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Errdoth Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 Wouldn't it just be easier to make your own board for a certain language, and advertise it in your signature, then going through all the hassle of making this thread? But you'd never be able to pool from a userbase the size of tipit's. And jimmyw, this has nothing to do with race, you can put that card away. You don't need to be belgian to speak dutch, and I don't see anything wrong with having a place to discuss local issues and whatnot in your native tongue. Last.fm Signature Overlays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyw3000 Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 Wouldn't it just be easier to make your own board for a certain language, and advertise it in your signature, then going through all the hassle of making this thread? But you'd never be able to pool from a userbase the size of tipit's. And jimmyw, this has nothing to do with race, you can put that card away. You don't need to be belgian to speak dutch, and I don't see anything wrong with having a place to discuss local issues and whatnot in your native tongue. Yeah, race was the wrong word, but I still think it's being slightly discriminative against people who dont speak eg. dutch to not be allowed to view certain boards because they dont speak that 1 language. I'd rather have it so there's a section of boards all the public can view and post in individual languages as opposed to private groups. It'd also be easier as new users dont need to be added to a usergroup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsavi Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 If we had one for Belgium, we'd need one for every other language. This means that the original English speaking board would either just be another one of the languages you can choose, or it would be the 'main' forum, which could be considered discriminatory. He was saying that Dutch Angels was for Belgium. And we wouldn't need a forum for each language, forums for areas like I describe would work fine, I think. In my opinion to call this racism or discrimination would be to really stretch the definition. Chances are that you either don't care what's happening in the other countries/boards, or you can't speak the language. If, however, you do care, I think that applying for access to other country's boards isn't out of the question. Now that I have had time to think about it, I think this isn't such a bad idea, the only problem could be that there would have to be a moderator from the countries in question for this to work meaning that smaller countries can't have boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Observer Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 Well, it shouldn't be AUTOMATICALLY given for other countries. Maybe if someone wants it enough, they can just ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsavi Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 ^Yeah, as in there has to be some people from the countries in question for there to be a board. I don't really think that there would be a country with another official language and enough users that wouldn't want a board, though. I think actually that this could be a great idea, I can't wait for an admin to show up to give his/her opinion. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamerr Posted September 21, 2008 Author Share Posted September 21, 2008 It's obvious I didn't mean to make a board for every language/country. Dutch Angels is not only for people from Belgium, it are just all people from tip.it who speak dutch together in 1 board. I don't wanna seperate tip.it, but I liked it when it was around (read: when people knew that it was there and if they spoke dutch they could ask the "admin" to add them) because you can talk a little more freely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 There used to be a RSUK board too years ago, for the uk posters, but it died out from inactivity. I think Matt ran that group. Anyway I can't see these types of groups being added anytime soon, unless there's a big demand for it. Plus you'd need a dutch speaking mod willing to run it. Maybe you could create a dutch angels thread to start with where you could discuss things? (of course it would have to be in English :)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsavi Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 I thought Dutch Angels was still here... And I don't know how we would see that there is a big demand for it, when the English-only rule is followed so well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercifull Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 There used to be a RSUK board too years ago, for the uk posters, but it died out from inactivity. I think Matt ran that group. Anyway I can't see these types of groups being added anytime soon, unless there's a big demand for it. Plus you'd need a dutch speaking mod willing to run it. Maybe you could create a dutch angels thread to start with where you could discuss things? (of course it would have to be in English :))Yeah I was just gonna post that heheh. I used to be the mod for RSUK which was very active for a while but eventually died due to inactivity. The difference with DA is that there is a huge amoung of dutchies on tipit and several mods are dutch too. I dont think there are enough people from other countries to sustain a private board in other languages. Mercifull <3 Suzi "We don't want players to be able to buy their way to success in RuneScape. If we let players start doing this, it devalues RuneScape for others. We feel your status in real-life shouldn't affect your ability to be successful in RuneScape" Jagex 01/04/01 - 02/03/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtlefemm Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 Private boards for different countries would serve only to separate users from one another, causing unnecessary tension. The idea for possible public forums for different countries is an interesting one, but people would need to realize that even if they have forums to discuss their own country's news, etc. they would still be bound by the English only rule that we have here at Tip.it forums. All users would be allowed access to those forums. If you are interested in the possible creation of a forum which could have subforums added for specific countries, we can certainly discuss among the administrators to see if it is a feasible idea. ~Turtlefemm Tip.it Administrative Team No one needs to get their ass on their shoulders about this--the_tallest1"Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see."-- Arthur SchopenhauerMy deviantart gallery --- Turtlequirks Zazzle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate_Felix Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 lol jimnub doesnt even talk dutch :P how bout havin the boards but then in english ? [hide]Felix, je moeder.Je moeder felixJe vader, felix.Felix, je oma.Felix, je ongelofelijk gave pwnaze avatar B)Felix, je moeder.[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam007 Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 I think people need to realize that the Angels board was a special occasion made awhile back and really only has its relevance back then. Having boards for separate languages now just doesn't seem necessary, and we don't have the same environment we did back then to even facilitate such a board. Dutch was common to a group of early RS-players, and a good percentage of RS-er's were dutch that were either well known or mods on these boards. We just don't have that kind of situation for a different language now. It's not about "oh this language has a board, now every language should have a board to be fair to everyone" - it was just an inside group that wanted a board that revolved around something in common more than just a shared language, and I don't think other language groups would come close to having that now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamerr Posted September 23, 2008 Author Share Posted September 23, 2008 Well, my question's first intention was basicly to ask if Dutch Angels could get a new mod (and Kill life is from belgium + is admin eh:P) who dutch/belgian people can add to the DA boards. I see no problems with it, because we aren't a clan and just wanna chat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laikrob Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Ironically, if you were a clan, you could make a private forum. :P You're accusing me of bigotry, how ironic. It's a nice attempt at argument, but your responses are facile and asinine, if not diatribe. Who's arrogant now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamerr Posted September 23, 2008 Author Share Posted September 23, 2008 Ironically, if you were a clan, you could make a private forum. :P Epic :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkDude Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 I would personally love to see a UK board for UK specific discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsavi Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 I'd love to see a Scandanavia board for Scandanavia specific discussion, in Swedish/Finnish/Norwegian/Danish. But I'm not so sure it's going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laikrob Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 If we are to be technical, Finland is not included in Scandinavia, but it is one of the Nordic countries. ;) But I agree, Norway/Denmark/Sweden/Iceland/Finland could easily be grouped together. You're accusing me of bigotry, how ironic. It's a nice attempt at argument, but your responses are facile and asinine, if not diatribe. Who's arrogant now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 As I said before, the best way to start it off would be to have your own thread in off topic. Kind of like the *crew* threads from offtopic.com if you like. You never know what might happen if it becomes popular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginger_Warrior Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 As I said before, the best way to start it off would be to have your own thread in off topic. Kind of like the *crew* threads from offtopic.com if you like. You never know what might happen if it becomes popular. If they're in public view, they'll become littered with opinionated, even racist, people who are frankly not all that knowledgeable on that country's culture or structure. Imagine all the anti-American/anti-French comments? I like this idea. It's just one problem that gets me - how do you prove someone's from the country they say they are? I mean, you could check IPs, but that's not exactly fool-proof. | Favourite Game Music | Last.fm | HYT Friend Chat Rules | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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