During the newest quest, 'Defender of Varrock', there are several moments where Zemouregal is in plain view. There's even a nice cutscene that gets us up close in personal with him! We already have a wallpaper released that confirms his image, so the significance is for comparison and speculation

 

 

 

You see, it just hit me... Zemouregal bares a striking resemblance to some past concept art, which was described buy Jagex as "content aimed to be released in 2008". Below I have three images; the cutscene appearance of Zemouregal, the wallpaper image of him, and the unidentified concept art taken from the Dev. Diary 'RuneScape vs. Real-world Trading'.

 

 

 

The major point in speculation? IF indeed the concept art is meant to depict Zemouregal, the largest hint towards the future would be that he is indeed holding the Staff of Armadyl.

 

 

 

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Discuss. Do you think Zemouregal has the Staff of Armadyl? (thats the point of my speculation)

 

 

 

(p.s. - If the images wont load for you, as they aren't for me, I apologize, and I'm working on it)

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But yes, I have noticed this. It's entirely possible.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The figure to the right - that's Arrav.

 

 

 

Isn't the Staff of Arma in the Museum at this point? Or is that a replica?

 

 

 

Either way, I have a funny feeling the Staff of Arma will end up being a quest reward. I just hope it does good things.

Isn't the Staff of Arma in the Museum at this point? Or is that a replica?

 

 

 

Either way, I have a funny feeling the Staff of Arma will end up being a quest reward. I just hope it does good things.

 

You'll end up breaking it and a mystical aura will surround you, rewarding you with 5,000 prayer experience.

 

Congratulations, quest complete!

Isn't the Staff of Arma in the Museum at this point? Or is that a replica?

 

 

 

Either way, I have a funny feeling the Staff of Arma will end up being a quest reward. I just hope it does good things.

 

You'll end up breaking it and a mystical aura will surround you, rewarding you with 5,000 prayer experience.

 

Congratulations, quest complete!

 

 

 

Hehe, that sounds very Jagex-esque.

 

 

 

They couldn't keep the real staff in the museum, I don't think, even though it was done with the Shield of Aarrav. Where and how Zemouregal will find the real one is a mystery so far.

Isn't the Staff of Arma in the Museum at this point? Or is that a replica?

 

 

 

Either way, I have a funny feeling the Staff of Arma will end up being a quest reward. I just hope it does good things.

 

You'll end up breaking it and a mystical aura will surround you, rewarding you with 5,000 prayer experience.

 

Congratulations, quest complete!

 

 

 

Hehe, that sounds very Jagex-esque.

 

 

 

They couldn't keep the real staff in the museum, I don't think, even though it was done with the Shield of Aarrav. Where and how Zemouregal will find the real one is a mystery so far.

 

wasnt the real one under mcgrouburs wood? after temple of ikov?

I don't see why a difference between concept art and actual content makes such a big specualtion?

 

 

 

The concept art was clearly concept art for zemergoul

 

 

 

It was due for release this year, it has been

 

 

 

Sure in the concept art he is holding a staff but just look at all rs concept art we've ever seen its all far more detailed than the final products.

 

 

 

I doubt its anything to speculate to wildly over.

 

 

 

Whats worth more speculation is the fact we now know for sure that 6/9 named mahjaratt are definately in the north instead of 5 of 6 and that they said the time for the ritual is soon. Now a ritual perform by mahjaratt can only be two things - summoning zammy (unlikely as the elves are doing tht) or summoning their overthrown ex-lord Zaros.

I don't see why a difference between concept art and actual content makes such a big specualtion?

 

 

 

The concept art was clearly concept art for zemergoul

 

 

 

It was due for release this year, it has been

 

 

 

Sure in the concept art he is holding a staff but just look at all rs concept art we've ever seen its all far more detailed than the final products.

 

 

 

I doubt its anything to speculate to wildly over.

 

 

 

Whats worth more speculation is the fact we now know for sure that 6/9 named mahjaratt are definately in the north instead of 5 of 6 and that they said the time for the ritual is soon. Now a ritual perform by mahjaratt can only be two things - summoning zammy (unlikely as the elves are doing tht) or summoning their overthrown ex-lord Zaros.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

did i miss something? when did elves start that? Sure, i havent done the last... oh 7 quests? but, i dont recall anything like that specifically.

 

 

 

so, what is your basis for such? i am just a little curious, also... hazeel? liked to see that guy again.

I don't see why a difference between concept art and actual content makes such a big specualtion?

 

 

 

The concept art was clearly concept art for zemergoul

 

 

 

It was due for release this year, it has been

 

 

 

Sure in the concept art he is holding a staff but just look at all rs concept art we've ever seen its all far more detailed than the final products.

 

 

 

I doubt its anything to speculate to wildly over.

 

 

 

Whats worth more speculation is the fact we now know for sure that 6/9 named mahjaratt are definately in the north instead of 5 of 6 and that they said the time for the ritual is soon. Now a ritual perform by mahjaratt can only be two things - summoning zammy (unlikely as the elves are doing tht) or summoning their overthrown ex-lord Zaros.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

did i miss something? when did elves start that? Sure, i havent done the last... oh 7 quests? but, i dont recall anything like that specifically.

 

 

 

so, what is your basis for such? i am just a little curious, also... hazeel? liked to see that guy again.

 

 

 

 

 

End of regicide you read the letter and they say they r preparing to summon to the empty lord which is a known name for zamorak, depsite the fact many players lesser versed in rs history and mythlogy will insit the empty lord IS zaros

is this the wallpaper you wer thinking of?

 

 

 

 

notice how the name of the wallpaper is "Attack on Varrock"

Regardless of who he is, Zemouregal makes me think of Skeletor. I hope in the next quest with him, we get to wield Armadyl's staff and shout "I have the POWER!" turning into an almost obscenely ripped warrior who would than proceed to beat him until he cries skeleton tears.

I don't see why a difference between concept art and actual content makes such a big specualtion?

 

 

 

The concept art was clearly concept art for zemergoul

 

 

 

It was due for release this year, it has been

 

 

 

Sure in the concept art he is holding a staff but just look at all rs concept art we've ever seen its all far more detailed than the final products.

 

 

 

I doubt its anything to speculate to wildly over.

 

 

 

Whats worth more speculation is the fact we now know for sure that 6/9 named mahjaratt are definately in the north instead of 5 of 6 and that they said the time for the ritual is soon. Now a ritual perform by mahjaratt can only be two things - summoning zammy (unlikely as the elves are doing tht) or summoning their overthrown ex-lord Zaros.

 

 

 

Or some big birthday party from 1 of the mahjaratt?

 

 

 

Why does it always have to be this "easy" to what happens: the majharatt aren't really known for their loyality: each have their own agenda they want to fullfill! - It doesn't seem very likely they would summon somebody to lead them! (just like zemouregal doesn't want to work together with lucien..)

I don't see why a difference between concept art and actual content makes such a big specualtion?

 

 

 

The concept art was clearly concept art for zemergoul

 

 

 

It was due for release this year, it has been

 

 

 

Sure in the concept art he is holding a staff but just look at all rs concept art we've ever seen its all far more detailed than the final products.

 

 

 

I doubt its anything to speculate to wildly over.

 

 

 

Whats worth more speculation is the fact we now know for sure that 6/9 named mahjaratt are definately in the north instead of 5 of 6 and that they said the time for the ritual is soon. Now a ritual perform by mahjaratt can only be two things - summoning zammy (unlikely as the elves are doing tht) or summoning their overthrown ex-lord Zaros.

 

 

 

Or some big birthday party from 1 of the mahjaratt?

 

 

 

Why does it always have to be this "easy" to what happens: the majharatt aren't really known for their loyality: each have their own agenda they want to fullfill! - It doesn't seem very likely they would summon somebody to lead them! (just like zemouregal doesn't want to work together with lucien..)

 

 

 

Yeah but the mahjaratt basically ruled runescape. Then Zaros was overthrown and one by one they were killed or imprisoned or driven into hiding. They are clearly vengeful and power hungry and the most logical way to regain thier power would be to resurrect Zaros as in the absence of Armaydal no-ong (seemingly) is powerful enough to defeat him. So under his leadership they would have free reign once again

I don't see why a difference between concept art and actual content makes such a big specualtion?

 

 

 

The concept art was clearly concept art for zemergoul

 

 

 

It was due for release this year, it has been

 

 

 

Sure in the concept art he is holding a staff but just look at all rs concept art we've ever seen its all far more detailed than the final products.

 

 

 

I doubt its anything to speculate to wildly over.

 

 

 

Whats worth more speculation is the fact we now know for sure that 6/9 named mahjaratt are definately in the north instead of 5 of 6 and that they said the time for the ritual is soon. Now a ritual perform by mahjaratt can only be two things - summoning zammy (unlikely as the elves are doing tht) or summoning their overthrown ex-lord Zaros.

 

 

 

Or some big birthday party from 1 of the mahjaratt?

 

 

 

Why does it always have to be this "easy" to what happens: the majharatt aren't really known for their loyality: each have their own agenda they want to fullfill! - It doesn't seem very likely they would summon somebody to lead them! (just like zemouregal doesn't want to work together with lucien..)

 

 

 

Yeah but the mahjaratt basically ruled runescape. Then Zaros was overthrown and one by one they were killed or imprisoned or driven into hiding. They are clearly vengeful and power hungry and the most logical way to regain thier power would be to resurrect Zaros as in the absence of Armaydal no-ong (seemingly) is powerful enough to defeat him. So under his leadership they would have free reign once again

 

 

 

For the second time, Zaros is the Empty Lord.

 

 

 

Also, a few of the Mahjarrat heading north do not serve Zamorak. Akthanakos for one.

 

 

 

Akthanakos, Azzanadra, and Sliske are the known Mahjarrat who remained loyal to Zaros.

Perhaps the elves will summon Zammorak, these dudes will summon Zaros, they'll start to fight and in the midsts of it all Saradomin will decide now is the time to ambush to take both evils down and then Guthix will appear in a raging stupor and be like "Arrrgggghh what's going on here?! snarf snarf"...and if that weren't enough the gnomes will all be going chaotic and form an alliance with the dwarves (since they're both little) which together will form an intricate tunnel system connected to large hollowed out trees so they have access to attack any landlocked area (because honestly, what god would anticipate the gnomes and dwarves attacking? it's genius) and since Jagex wouldn't want a mass war destroying their precious game they will call upon a single brave adventurer (that's us) to sort out the whole ordeal and BOOM! New superfreakingamazinglyepic quest.

Perhaps the elves will summon Zammorak, these dudes will summon Zaros, they'll start to fight and in the midsts of it all Saradomin will decide now is the time to ambush to take both evils down and then Guthix will appear in a raging stupor and be like "Arrrgggghh what's going on here?! snarf snarf"...and if that weren't enough the gnomes will all be going chaotic and form an alliance with the dwarves (since they're both little) which together will form an intricate tunnel system connected to large hollowed out trees so they have access to attack any landlocked area (because honestly, what god would anticipate the gnomes and dwarves attacking? it's genius) and since Jagex wouldn't want a mass war destroying their precious game they will call upon a single brave adventurer (that's us) to sort out the whole ordeal and BOOM! New superfreakingamazinglyepic quest.

Only 1 word suits that idea:

 

EPIC!

I do believe he said:

 

 

 

"SUPERFREAKINGAMAZINGLY-EPIC"

 

 

 

And I totally agree...

 

 

 

Maybe it will be a modern God Wars!!!

I do believe he said:

 

 

 

"SUPERFREAKINGAMAZINGLY-EPIC"

 

 

 

And I totally agree...

 

 

 

Maybe it will be a modern God Wars!!!

 

*Iron Maiden -The trooper*

Well if, as the concept art suggests, Zemouregal gets his hands on the Staff of Armadyl, then we'll be in for quite the future quest.

 

 

 

In my opinion, that concept art is telling us, not suggesting, that he will.

Seems Zemo is the Mahjarrat with the Staff...wonder if he's going to get a hold of the Stone of Jas or whatever it is that's in his head.

Who the hell is he?

I don't see why a difference between concept art and actual content makes such a big specualtion?

 

 

 

The concept art was clearly concept art for zemergoul

 

 

 

It was due for release this year, it has been

 

 

 

Sure in the concept art he is holding a staff but just look at all rs concept art we've ever seen its all far more detailed than the final products.

 

 

 

I doubt its anything to speculate to wildly over.

 

 

 

Whats worth more speculation is the fact we now know for sure that 6/9 named mahjaratt are definately in the north instead of 5 of 6 and that they said the time for the ritual is soon. Now a ritual perform by mahjaratt can only be two things - summoning zammy (unlikely as the elves are doing tht) or summoning their overthrown ex-lord Zaros.

 

 

 

Or some big birthday party from 1 of the mahjaratt?

 

 

 

Why does it always have to be this "easy" to what happens: the majharatt aren't really known for their loyality: each have their own agenda they want to fullfill! - It doesn't seem very likely they would summon somebody to lead them! (just like zemouregal doesn't want to work together with lucien..)

 

 

 

Yeah but the mahjaratt basically ruled runescape. Then Zaros was overthrown and one by one they were killed or imprisoned or driven into hiding. They are clearly vengeful and power hungry and the most logical way to regain thier power would be to resurrect Zaros as in the absence of Armaydal no-ong (seemingly) is powerful enough to defeat him. So under his leadership they would have free reign once again

 

 

 

For the second time, Zaros is the Empty Lord.

 

 

 

Also, a few of the Mahjarrat heading north do not serve Zamorak. Akthanakos for one.

 

 

 

Akthanakos, Azzanadra, and Sliske are the known Mahjarrat who remained loyal to Zaros.

As you said, they have differing loyalties. So this leads me to two different theories. One, they're going to form sides and fight for the supremacy of their leader, though this strikes me as overly simple. Or two, they're putting they're differences aside to conquer Runescape. As it has been said, they used to rule Runescape. Maybe they wish to do so again, only minus Zaros or Zamorak. Zemouregal also said something about Lucien wanting to take charge. Of course, not all of them strike me as evil. The camel one, Athanakos right?, seemed to be grateful for the aid you give him during Anakhras lament.

I don't see why a difference between concept art and actual content makes such a big specualtion?

 

 

 

The concept art was clearly concept art for zemergoul

 

 

 

It was due for release this year, it has been

 

 

 

Sure in the concept art he is holding a staff but just look at all rs concept art we've ever seen its all far more detailed than the final products.

 

 

 

I doubt its anything to speculate to wildly over.

 

 

 

Whats worth more speculation is the fact we now know for sure that 6/9 named mahjaratt are definately in the north instead of 5 of 6 and that they said the time for the ritual is soon. Now a ritual perform by mahjaratt can only be two things - summoning zammy (unlikely as the elves are doing tht) or summoning their overthrown ex-lord Zaros.

 

 

 

Or some big birthday party from 1 of the mahjaratt?

 

 

 

Why does it always have to be this "easy" to what happens: the majharatt aren't really known for their loyality: each have their own agenda they want to fullfill! - It doesn't seem very likely they would summon somebody to lead them! (just like zemouregal doesn't want to work together with lucien..)

 

 

 

Yeah but the mahjaratt basically ruled runescape. Then Zaros was overthrown and one by one they were killed or imprisoned or driven into hiding. They are clearly vengeful and power hungry and the most logical way to regain thier power would be to resurrect Zaros as in the absence of Armaydal no-ong (seemingly) is powerful enough to defeat him. So under his leadership they would have free reign once again

 

 

 

For the second time, Zaros is the Empty Lord.

 

 

 

Also, a few of the Mahjarrat heading north do not serve Zamorak. Akthanakos for one.

 

 

 

Akthanakos, Azzanadra, and Sliske are the known Mahjarrat who remained loyal to Zaros.

As you said, they have differing loyalties. So this leads me to two different theories. One, they're going to form sides and fight for the supremacy of their leader, though this strikes me as overly simple. Or two, they're putting they're differences aside to conquer Runescape. As it has been said, they used to rule Runescape. Maybe they wish to do so again, only minus Zaros or Zamorak. Zemouregal also said something about Lucien wanting to take charge. Of course, not all of them strike me as evil. The camel one, Athanakos right?, seemed to be grateful for the aid you give him during Anakhras lament.

 

 

 

 

 

For the THIRD TIME Zamorak is the empty lord.

 

 

 

The only use of the name the empty lord is in the elf story line as to who they are trying to summon.

 

All other references in said story line refer directly to Zamorak.

 

 

 

Ergo the empty lord is zamorak

I don't see why a difference between concept art and actual content makes such a big specualtion?

 

 

 

The concept art was clearly concept art for zemergoul

 

 

 

It was due for release this year, it has been

 

 

 

Sure in the concept art he is holding a staff but just look at all rs concept art we've ever seen its all far more detailed than the final products.

 

 

 

I doubt its anything to speculate to wildly over.

 

 

 

Whats worth more speculation is the fact we now know for sure that 6/9 named mahjaratt are definately in the north instead of 5 of 6 and that they said the time for the ritual is soon. Now a ritual perform by mahjaratt can only be two things - summoning zammy (unlikely as the elves are doing tht) or summoning their overthrown ex-lord Zaros.

 

 

 

Or some big birthday party from 1 of the mahjaratt?

 

 

 

Why does it always have to be this "easy" to what happens: the majharatt aren't really known for their loyality: each have their own agenda they want to fullfill! - It doesn't seem very likely they would summon somebody to lead them! (just like zemouregal doesn't want to work together with lucien..)

 

 

 

Yeah but the mahjaratt basically ruled runescape. Then Zaros was overthrown and one by one they were killed or imprisoned or driven into hiding. They are clearly vengeful and power hungry and the most logical way to regain thier power would be to resurrect Zaros as in the absence of Armaydal no-ong (seemingly) is powerful enough to defeat him. So under his leadership they would have free reign once again

 

 

 

For the second time, Zaros is the Empty Lord.

 

 

 

Also, a few of the Mahjarrat heading north do not serve Zamorak. Akthanakos for one.

 

 

 

Akthanakos, Azzanadra, and Sliske are the known Mahjarrat who remained loyal to Zaros.

As you said, they have differing loyalties. So this leads me to two different theories. One, they're going to form sides and fight for the supremacy of their leader, though this strikes me as overly simple. Or two, they're putting they're differences aside to conquer Runescape. As it has been said, they used to rule Runescape. Maybe they wish to do so again, only minus Zaros or Zamorak. Zemouregal also said something about Lucien wanting to take charge. Of course, not all of them strike me as evil. The camel one, Athanakos right?, seemed to be grateful for the aid you give him during Anakhras lament.

 

 

 

 

 

For the THIRD TIME Zamorak is the empty lord.

 

 

 

The only use of the name the empty lord is in the elf story line as to who they are trying to summon.

 

All other references in said story line refer directly to Zamorak.

 

 

 

Ergo the empty lord is zamorak

 

 

 

The last ghost of the Ghostly Robes sub-quest clearly and blatantly states that the Empty Lord is Zaros -.-

I don't see why a difference between concept art and actual content makes such a big specualtion?

 

 

 

The concept art was clearly concept art for zemergoul

 

 

 

It was due for release this year, it has been

 

 

 

Sure in the concept art he is holding a staff but just look at all rs concept art we've ever seen its all far more detailed than the final products.

 

 

 

I doubt its anything to speculate to wildly over.

 

 

 

Whats worth more speculation is the fact we now know for sure that 6/9 named mahjaratt are definately in the north instead of 5 of 6 and that they said the time for the ritual is soon. Now a ritual perform by mahjaratt can only be two things - summoning zammy (unlikely as the elves are doing tht) or summoning their overthrown ex-lord Zaros.

 

 

 

Or some big birthday party from 1 of the mahjaratt?

 

 

 

Why does it always have to be this "easy" to what happens: the majharatt aren't really known for their loyality: each have their own agenda they want to fullfill! - It doesn't seem very likely they would summon somebody to lead them! (just like zemouregal doesn't want to work together with lucien..)

 

 

 

Yeah but the mahjaratt basically ruled runescape. Then Zaros was overthrown and one by one they were killed or imprisoned or driven into hiding. They are clearly vengeful and power hungry and the most logical way to regain thier power would be to resurrect Zaros as in the absence of Armaydal no-ong (seemingly) is powerful enough to defeat him. So under his leadership they would have free reign once again

 

 

 

For the second time, Zaros is the Empty Lord.

 

 

 

Also, a few of the Mahjarrat heading north do not serve Zamorak. Akthanakos for one.

 

 

 

Akthanakos, Azzanadra, and Sliske are the known Mahjarrat who remained loyal to Zaros.

As you said, they have differing loyalties. So this leads me to two different theories. One, they're going to form sides and fight for the supremacy of their leader, though this strikes me as overly simple. Or two, they're putting they're differences aside to conquer Runescape. As it has been said, they used to rule Runescape. Maybe they wish to do so again, only minus Zaros or Zamorak. Zemouregal also said something about Lucien wanting to take charge. Of course, not all of them strike me as evil. The camel one, Athanakos right?, seemed to be grateful for the aid you give him during Anakhras lament.

 

 

 

 

 

For the THIRD TIME Zamorak is the empty lord.

 

 

 

The only use of the name the empty lord is in the elf story line as to who they are trying to summon.

 

All other references in said story line refer directly to Zamorak.

 

 

 

Ergo the empty lord is zamorak

 

 

 

The last ghost of the Ghostly Robes sub-quest clearly and blatantly states that the Empty Lord is Zaros -.-

 

 

 

This is true however in the elf series the empty lord clearly refers to Zamorak.

 

 

 

Eg all modern non mahjaratt references = Zamorak