All_Is_Great Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 I have a question: Would it be cheaper to buy pouches and swap for shards, or would it be better to buy shards for around 20-22ea? If swapping, what pouches work best? Tyvm :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladycai Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 I'm pretty sure shards @ 20ea is better 95/99 Summoning95/99 Slayer [hide=This is what you look like when you play RS too long][/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_bubbabob Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Buying pouches on the GE to trade for shards will cost you about 23 gold per shard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wioneo Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Buying pouches on the GE to trade for shards will cost you about 23 gold per shard. With swamp titans it was like 21.9 or something similar each the last time that I checked, but yes you could get them cheaper by collecting junk and paying 20ea or so. the question comes down to whether or not collecting junk is worth saving 1 or 2 coins/shard as opposed to effortlessly buying pouches off the Ge to be swapped. Is anyone who it is that sells these pouches? I've been expecting it to stop being efficient to buy off the Ge for a while.. EDIT: Oi excuse the broken sentences...my keyboard is in overtype for some reason, anyone know how to turn that off? Barrows: 9~2 V Brass,V Flail,2 Dh Plate,V Helm,V Skirt,T Legs,Malevolent Shield + DKing: 48~6 W Ring,13 A Ring,8 M Staff,9 S Ring,7 B Ring,3 SeercullDragon Drops: 500+~50+ Med,26 Axe,3 Chain,10+ Legs,10+ Spear,2 D2h,10+ L Half,49 Boots,2 DDs,10+ Lump,9 Claws,50+ Dagger,14 Visage,50+ Mace,4 Scimitar,7 Hasta,Baxe,50+ Long,30+ Royal,2 Kite,4 Ward,2 Plate,Staff,Hammer,Limbs, Mattock,HalberdGWD: 156~4 S Staff,50+ Shard,9 B Tass,13 B Plate,5 B Boots,6 A Plate,11 S Sword,8 A Hilt,4 A Skirt,9 A Helm,S Hilt,3 B Hilt,B Glove,2 A Buckler,Z Ward,Z Garb,2 Z Boots,B Shield,B Helm Corp: 3~Elysian,2 Sp Sh + Nex: 6~Torva Legs,Cere,P cowl,Z bow,2 T boots + GWD2: 9~2 Glaive,Wand,2 Crest,Blade,2 Essence,Core + Araxyte: 5~Web,3 Pheromone,Fang + Raids: 4~3 Codex,P Boots + Trails: 2~Bob Shirt,Fortunate Etc: 64~3 Sceptre,B Mask,16 Whip,2 Focus Sight,5 D Bow,7 SOL,Ragefire,2 Steadfast,Arma Staff,6 Rider Armor,5 Vine,2 Razorback,2 A Wand,Abby Orb,3 Blood Shard,6 Hydrix,Gland,Asc Xbow [spoiler=Capes]Quest Cape Aquired 12-7-07 ~ Level 93 + + + Completionist Cape Aquired 5-22-15 ~ Level 138Hitpoints Cape Aquired 9-21-09 ~ Level 131 + Magic Cape Aquired 9-24-09 + Attack Cape Aquired 3-5-10 ~ Level 135 + Summoning Cape Aquired 3-12-10Strength Cape Aquired 6-1-11 ~ Level 137 + Fire Cape Aquired 6-23-11 + Defence Cape Aquired 7-5-11 + Ranged Cape Aquired 8-1-11 + Kiln Cape Aquired 2-26-12 ~ Level 138Dungeoneering Cape Aquired 4-22-12 + Slayer Cape Aquired 6-25-14 ~ Level 200 + Herblore Cape Acquired 12-9-14 ~ Level 138 + Prayer Cape Acquired 12-20-14Agility Cape Acquired 1-4-15 + Hunter Cape Acquired 1-30-15 + Construction Cape Acquired 1-31-15 + Crafting Cape Acquired 2-22-15 + Thieving Cape Acquired 3-18-15Runecrafting Cape Acquired 4-14-15 + Mining Cape Acquired 4-19-15 + Fishing Cape Acquired 4-25-15 + Firemaking Cape Acquired 4-26-15 + Woodcutting Cape Acquired 4-26-15Cooking Cape Acquired 4-26-15+ Smithing Cape Acquired 4-28-15 + Farming Cape Acquired 4-29-15 + Divination Cape Acquired 5-3-15 + Dungeoneering Mastery 5-4-15Fletching Cape Acquired 5-4-15 + Max Cape Acquired 5-4-15 + Invention Cape Acquired 11-9-16 + Invention Mastery 5-16-19 + Archaeology Cape Acquired 10-30-20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandorf61 Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Aren't shards 25gp ea? That means it would be better to buy the pouches. Pyramid Plunder Guide Tip.it Forum Rules Adventurer's LogThanks to Cowboy14 for the awesome sig! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numberkills Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Buying pouches on the GE to trade for shards will cost you about 23 gold per shard. With swamp titans it was like 21.9 or something similar each the last time that I checked, but yes you could get them cheaper by collecting junk and paying 20ea or so. the question comes down to whether or not collecting junk is worth saving 1 or 2 coins/shard as opposed to effortlessly buying pouches off the Ge to be swapped. Is anyone who it is that sells these pouches? I've been expecting it to stop being efficient to buy off the Ge for a while.. EDIT: Oi excuse the broken sentences...my keyboard is in overtype for some reason, anyone know how to turn that off? Press Insert 99 Fletching || 288/309 Quest Points || 99 Cooking || 122 Combat || 99 Defence || 2000+ Total ||16/25 80+'s || 99 Firemaking || 99 Woodcutting || 2011 Goals : All skills 80+ | 99 Magic | 99 Farming | 99 Thieving | 99 Hunter | 99 Range "The Unexamined Life is not worth living" - Socrates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inuashakent Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Buy pouches, unless for whatever reason you already have junk... [Summoning guide (AOW)] [Slayer guide] [Melee & Brawl player] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Is_Great Posted October 5, 2008 Author Share Posted October 5, 2008 Buy pouches, unless for whatever reason you already have junk... OK, since everyone says you're the best summoner here :P , another question: does it matter which pouches i buy? Example: gold or crimson pouches? or green? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inuashakent Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Buy pouches, unless for whatever reason you already have junk... OK, since everyone says you're the best summoner here :P , another question: does it matter which pouches i buy? Example: gold or crimson pouches? or green? Not really, but some good ones are Geyser and Swamp titans... just do some random guesses, but don't buy pouches that require one gold to make (Rune minotaurs, ect) or are made from gold. Test out some random pouches. [Summoning guide (AOW)] [Slayer guide] [Melee & Brawl player] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wioneo Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Buy pouches, unless for whatever reason you already have junk... OK, since everyone says you're the best summoner here :P , another question: does it matter which pouches i buy? Example: gold or crimson pouches? or green? Not really, but some good ones are Geyser and Swamp titans... just do some random guesses, but don't buy pouches that require one gold to make (Rune minotaurs, ect) or are made from gold. Test out some random pouches. Randomly testing could lose you a lot of money :shame: Just divide the GE price by the number of shards that you get back from that specific pouch. Multiply 0.7 by the number of shards that it takes to make the pouch. This is one of the few cases where Jagex does not round down, by the way. I actually think that they universally round up for pouch swaps \ So swamp titans, for example cost...2324 gp in the Grand Exchange. You get (150*0.7) 105 shards back for every pouch that you swap. So with titans, the cost is (2324/105) 22.13 gp/shard. Swamp titans just happen to come out evenly, but with most pouches the returned shards get rounded up(I think). Barrows: 9~2 V Brass,V Flail,2 Dh Plate,V Helm,V Skirt,T Legs,Malevolent Shield + DKing: 48~6 W Ring,13 A Ring,8 M Staff,9 S Ring,7 B Ring,3 SeercullDragon Drops: 500+~50+ Med,26 Axe,3 Chain,10+ Legs,10+ Spear,2 D2h,10+ L Half,49 Boots,2 DDs,10+ Lump,9 Claws,50+ Dagger,14 Visage,50+ Mace,4 Scimitar,7 Hasta,Baxe,50+ Long,30+ Royal,2 Kite,4 Ward,2 Plate,Staff,Hammer,Limbs, Mattock,HalberdGWD: 156~4 S Staff,50+ Shard,9 B Tass,13 B Plate,5 B Boots,6 A Plate,11 S Sword,8 A Hilt,4 A Skirt,9 A Helm,S Hilt,3 B Hilt,B Glove,2 A Buckler,Z Ward,Z Garb,2 Z Boots,B Shield,B Helm Corp: 3~Elysian,2 Sp Sh + Nex: 6~Torva Legs,Cere,P cowl,Z bow,2 T boots + GWD2: 9~2 Glaive,Wand,2 Crest,Blade,2 Essence,Core + Araxyte: 5~Web,3 Pheromone,Fang + Raids: 4~3 Codex,P Boots + Trails: 2~Bob Shirt,Fortunate Etc: 64~3 Sceptre,B Mask,16 Whip,2 Focus Sight,5 D Bow,7 SOL,Ragefire,2 Steadfast,Arma Staff,6 Rider Armor,5 Vine,2 Razorback,2 A Wand,Abby Orb,3 Blood Shard,6 Hydrix,Gland,Asc Xbow [spoiler=Capes]Quest Cape Aquired 12-7-07 ~ Level 93 + + + Completionist Cape Aquired 5-22-15 ~ Level 138Hitpoints Cape Aquired 9-21-09 ~ Level 131 + Magic Cape Aquired 9-24-09 + Attack Cape Aquired 3-5-10 ~ Level 135 + Summoning Cape Aquired 3-12-10Strength Cape Aquired 6-1-11 ~ Level 137 + Fire Cape Aquired 6-23-11 + Defence Cape Aquired 7-5-11 + Ranged Cape Aquired 8-1-11 + Kiln Cape Aquired 2-26-12 ~ Level 138Dungeoneering Cape Aquired 4-22-12 + Slayer Cape Aquired 6-25-14 ~ Level 200 + Herblore Cape Acquired 12-9-14 ~ Level 138 + Prayer Cape Acquired 12-20-14Agility Cape Acquired 1-4-15 + Hunter Cape Acquired 1-30-15 + Construction Cape Acquired 1-31-15 + Crafting Cape Acquired 2-22-15 + Thieving Cape Acquired 3-18-15Runecrafting Cape Acquired 4-14-15 + Mining Cape Acquired 4-19-15 + Fishing Cape Acquired 4-25-15 + Firemaking Cape Acquired 4-26-15 + Woodcutting Cape Acquired 4-26-15Cooking Cape Acquired 4-26-15+ Smithing Cape Acquired 4-28-15 + Farming Cape Acquired 4-29-15 + Divination Cape Acquired 5-3-15 + Dungeoneering Mastery 5-4-15Fletching Cape Acquired 5-4-15 + Max Cape Acquired 5-4-15 + Invention Cape Acquired 11-9-16 + Invention Mastery 5-16-19 + Archaeology Cape Acquired 10-30-20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pulli23 Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Buy pouches, unless for whatever reason you already have junk... OK, since everyone says you're the best summoner here :P , another question: does it matter which pouches i buy? Example: gold or crimson pouches? or green? Not really, but some good ones are Geyser and Swamp titans... just do some random guesses, but don't buy pouches that require one gold to make (Rune minotaurs, ect) or are made from gold. Test out some random pouches. Wow and that comes from the person deemed to be best summoner? Really do your calculations correct, there are only a few pouches which are lower than 25 gp/shard. Gold are not 1 of them. Gold pouches should always be high alched (since you get a static amount +15 gp/shard). If you want I'll compile a list of all summons and what you should do with it. Anyways: don't forget that you need a higher summoning lvl than the monster itself to exchange it for shards. Anyway a list of all monsters with the ge price from 2 weeks ago (sorted by gp/shard you would get if you exchange them): [hide]karamthulhu overlord 21.65 swamp titan 22.05714286 pack yak 22.12244898 adamant minotaur 22.13 smoke devil 22.2244898 spirit cobra 22.24691358 iron titan 22.25362319 mithril minotaur 22.26415094 obsidian golem 22.29411765 granite lobster 22.35344828 fruit bat 22.41758242 pyrelord 22.48051948 steel minotaur 22.5 stranger plant 22.60674157 spirit cockatrice 22.67213115 lava titan 22.69281046 hydra 22.73033708 spirit jelly 22.76190476 ibis 22.77631579 vampire bat 22.83928571 Bloated leech 22.86419753 Giant ent 22.90697674 magpie 23.09836066 ravenous locust 23.10909091 bunyip 23.19480519 geyser titan 23.34193548 Honey badger 23.34482759 iron minotaur 23.4137931 macaw 23.42592593 sprit tz-kih 23.77272727 beaver 23.96 unicorn stallion 24.66326531 [/hide] The rest doesn't make any profit.. First they came to fishingand I didn't speak out because I wasn't fishing Then they came to the yewsand I didn't speak out because I didn't cut yews Then they came for the oresand I didn't speak out because I didn't collect ores Then they came for meand there was no one left to speak out for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wioneo Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 As you can see by the difference in me and pulli's figures, you can't rely on one pouch to swap forever. Make sure you check prices before you buy. Also, it's best to use pouches that are commonly trained with(ie crimsons) because it could take ages to get a reasonable number of blue pouches. Barrows: 9~2 V Brass,V Flail,2 Dh Plate,V Helm,V Skirt,T Legs,Malevolent Shield + DKing: 48~6 W Ring,13 A Ring,8 M Staff,9 S Ring,7 B Ring,3 SeercullDragon Drops: 500+~50+ Med,26 Axe,3 Chain,10+ Legs,10+ Spear,2 D2h,10+ L Half,49 Boots,2 DDs,10+ Lump,9 Claws,50+ Dagger,14 Visage,50+ Mace,4 Scimitar,7 Hasta,Baxe,50+ Long,30+ Royal,2 Kite,4 Ward,2 Plate,Staff,Hammer,Limbs, Mattock,HalberdGWD: 156~4 S Staff,50+ Shard,9 B Tass,13 B Plate,5 B Boots,6 A Plate,11 S Sword,8 A Hilt,4 A Skirt,9 A Helm,S Hilt,3 B Hilt,B Glove,2 A Buckler,Z Ward,Z Garb,2 Z Boots,B Shield,B Helm Corp: 3~Elysian,2 Sp Sh + Nex: 6~Torva Legs,Cere,P cowl,Z bow,2 T boots + GWD2: 9~2 Glaive,Wand,2 Crest,Blade,2 Essence,Core + Araxyte: 5~Web,3 Pheromone,Fang + Raids: 4~3 Codex,P Boots + Trails: 2~Bob Shirt,Fortunate Etc: 64~3 Sceptre,B Mask,16 Whip,2 Focus Sight,5 D Bow,7 SOL,Ragefire,2 Steadfast,Arma Staff,6 Rider Armor,5 Vine,2 Razorback,2 A Wand,Abby Orb,3 Blood Shard,6 Hydrix,Gland,Asc Xbow [spoiler=Capes]Quest Cape Aquired 12-7-07 ~ Level 93 + + + Completionist Cape Aquired 5-22-15 ~ Level 138Hitpoints Cape Aquired 9-21-09 ~ Level 131 + Magic Cape Aquired 9-24-09 + Attack Cape Aquired 3-5-10 ~ Level 135 + Summoning Cape Aquired 3-12-10Strength Cape Aquired 6-1-11 ~ Level 137 + Fire Cape Aquired 6-23-11 + Defence Cape Aquired 7-5-11 + Ranged Cape Aquired 8-1-11 + Kiln Cape Aquired 2-26-12 ~ Level 138Dungeoneering Cape Aquired 4-22-12 + Slayer Cape Aquired 6-25-14 ~ Level 200 + Herblore Cape Acquired 12-9-14 ~ Level 138 + Prayer Cape Acquired 12-20-14Agility Cape Acquired 1-4-15 + Hunter Cape Acquired 1-30-15 + Construction Cape Acquired 1-31-15 + Crafting Cape Acquired 2-22-15 + Thieving Cape Acquired 3-18-15Runecrafting Cape Acquired 4-14-15 + Mining Cape Acquired 4-19-15 + Fishing Cape Acquired 4-25-15 + Firemaking Cape Acquired 4-26-15 + Woodcutting Cape Acquired 4-26-15Cooking Cape Acquired 4-26-15+ Smithing Cape Acquired 4-28-15 + Farming Cape Acquired 4-29-15 + Divination Cape Acquired 5-3-15 + Dungeoneering Mastery 5-4-15Fletching Cape Acquired 5-4-15 + Max Cape Acquired 5-4-15 + Invention Cape Acquired 11-9-16 + Invention Mastery 5-16-19 + Archaeology Cape Acquired 10-30-20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Promise Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Buy pouches, unless for whatever reason you already have junk... OK, since everyone says you're the best summoner here :P , another question: does it matter which pouches i buy? Example: gold or crimson pouches? or green? Not really, but some good ones are Geyser and Swamp titans... just do some random guesses, but don't buy pouches that require one gold to make (Rune minotaurs, ect) or are made from gold. Test out some random pouches. Wow and that comes from the person deemed to be best summoner? Really do your calculations correct, there are only a few pouches which are lower than 25 gp/shard. Gold are not 1 of them. Gold pouches should always be high alched (since you get a static amount +15 gp/shard). If you want I'll compile a list of all summons and what you should do with it. Anyways: don't forget that you need a higher summoning lvl than the monster itself to exchange it for shards. Anyway a list of all monsters with the ge price from 2 weeks ago (sorted by gp/shard you would get if you exchange them): [hide]karamthulhu overlord 21.65 swamp titan 22.05714286 pack yak 22.12244898 adamant minotaur 22.13 smoke devil 22.2244898 spirit cobra 22.24691358 iron titan 22.25362319 mithril minotaur 22.26415094 obsidian golem 22.29411765 granite lobster 22.35344828 fruit bat 22.41758242 pyrelord 22.48051948 steel minotaur 22.5 stranger plant 22.60674157 spirit cockatrice 22.67213115 lava titan 22.69281046 hydra 22.73033708 spirit jelly 22.76190476 ibis 22.77631579 vampire bat 22.83928571 Bloated leech 22.86419753 Giant ent 22.90697674 magpie 23.09836066 ravenous locust 23.10909091 bunyip 23.19480519 geyser titan 23.34193548 Honey badger 23.34482759 iron minotaur 23.4137931 macaw 23.42592593 sprit tz-kih 23.77272727 beaver 23.96 unicorn stallion 24.66326531 [/hide] The rest doesn't make any profit.. Have you seen his summoning guide? it just went AOW. Before you go making ignorant statements, make sure you got your facts. Also, you can't base anyone to be a best at anything on one post. I would think that would be common sense... Your calculations are out dated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inuashakent Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Wow, so much nitpicks. When I said go test themm, I meant make some calculations, what else could I have meant? Go buy them and test?... That list really is not reliable, some things don't sell, don't sell at min, max, ect. It'll take hours to get real numbers. I'm too busy. :-# And thanks Promise. \ [Summoning guide (AOW)] [Slayer guide] [Melee & Brawl player] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Is_Great Posted October 6, 2008 Author Share Posted October 6, 2008 Ok, thanks, i guess i'll test them when i need to buy : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilovecardj Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 exchanging is always better because by using junk you are paying 20 cash and 5 "junk" which is still 25. exchanging is 23 no waste of junk. you could use that junk for lending out a godsword for example and get the full cash use of it.. Dragon Drops: 80+ boots, 7 med, 3 skirt, 2 left half, 2 Spear, 2 2hSlayer: 30+ whips, 4 Bows, 1 Mask, 3 Granite Legs, 1 Visage (Wyverns)Notable GWD Splits: Bandos Tassets: 12, Bandos Chest: 11, Bandos Hilt: 2Proud Slayer of 99 Att/Str/Def/HP/Range/Summoning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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