bedman Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 When someone says to another, use a dds to catch up on 200k strength xp through slayer, I disregard them. It's not going to be a quick train. And just cause i ask for advice doesnt mean I have to take it all, although some people have given great advice. So I sold my guthans. Got 100k more than for what I bought. @DDS, I know it's better than a whip, but the accuracy of it makes me really dislike it, much like all the GS'. (SGS is only exception, due to its effect). I'm going to buy a black mask - do the charges really matter? Bed, its not like im a noob for having 57 summoning, I have enough for 58 and will get it when I feel like it. I think I have a slightly higher-than-average summoning level for 100cb. Oh and if anyone cares I'm gonna put a rant up on slayer in rants. First of all, I never said (or thought) you were a noob cause you dont have high summoning. I just said all the high lvl summoning discussion isnt appliable on your case. Secondly: whats the rant about? Third: No, the 200k will be gotten very very slowly. There's nothing wrong with training on str to quickly catch up, It's just, overall (long term) it's better to train on controlled. Those 3-4H you train on str only with a worse weapon wont make the difference. However, cause it's only 200k xp, I wouldnt advice buying all those things (obby combo), just do it with a dragon scim. Last: Charges dont matter, indeed. No pvp use. I'd try to get a slayer helm asap. (more defence + good looks). A Guide to Chinning in Ape atoll: up to 325kxp/h! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Well i decided to save up and buy some guthans, extremely close to it now. Just a few questions, and simple ideas I think I need... 1. Do I keep my dh legs for the added defence, or is it un-needed? The skrit is same def. 2. As soon as I can, should I buy a black mask (I'll need it eventually), or get 60, (then 70) prayer? MASK!!! 3. Is guthans worth the no-food? Yes 4. I bought a berserker necklace and obsidian sword to train strength, one of the best cheaper methods imo, would this work much on slayer, and does the effect stack with black mask and say.. salve ammy? Use salve if you are fighting undead, but for lower level tasks, the combo is great Thanks all, might add more questions a bit later. Ray ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilovecardj Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Use mask on every task you can until you get helm. Only use salve on abberants until you get the slayer helm slayer helm+fury = higher hits then salve(e) Dragon Drops: 80+ boots, 7 med, 3 skirt, 2 left half, 2 Spear, 2 2hSlayer: 30+ whips, 4 Bows, 1 Mask, 3 Granite Legs, 1 Visage (Wyverns)Notable GWD Splits: Bandos Tassets: 12, Bandos Chest: 11, Bandos Hilt: 2Proud Slayer of 99 Att/Str/Def/HP/Range/Summoning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulxai Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Well i decided to save up and buy some guthans, extremely close to it now. Just a few questions, and simple ideas I think I need... 1. Do I keep my dh legs for the added defence, or is it un-needed? The skrit is same def. 2. As soon as I can, should I buy a black mask (I'll need it eventually), or get 60, (then 70) prayer? MASK!!! 3. Is guthans worth the no-food? Yes 4. I bought a berserker necklace and obsidian sword to train strength, one of the best cheaper methods imo, would this work much on slayer, and does the effect stack with black mask and say.. salve ammy? Use salve if you are fighting undead, but for lower level tasks, the combo is great Thanks all, might add more questions a bit later. Ray Dharok's doesn't have a skirt, you might have though he meant dlegs. ~ Proud Father ~ Proud (Currently Deployed) Army National Guardsmen ~ Proud Lakota ~ Retired Tip.It Crew ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtaurian Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Oh good. Someone knows of the epic obby combo. :) yay Most people know about this. It's not THAT good. Comparable to a Dragon Scimitar and Rune Defender. Using a whip on controlled is much better. You spend a few hours training strength using a weapon that's much (much) worse than a whip. You're losing a lot of time that way. When you train controlled, it SEEMS to go by more slowly, until you hit three levels within fifteen minutes of each other and gain a combat level almost every time. You've gotten a lot of great advice in this thread, and I hope that you have the sense to take it. As always: ITT: 98% of Tipiters have no idea how to slay. To put it bluntly, [bleep] off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedman Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 Oh good. Someone knows of the epic obby combo. :) yay Most people know about this. It's not THAT good. Comparable to a Dragon Scimitar and Rune Defender. Using a whip on controlled is much better. You spend a few hours training strength using a weapon that's much (much) worse than a whip. You're losing a lot of time that way. When you train controlled, it SEEMS to go by more slowly, until you hit three levels within fifteen minutes of each other and gain a combat level almost every time. You've gotten a lot of great advice in this thread, and I hope that you have the sense to take it. As always: ITT: 98% of Tipiters have no idea how to slay. You are right, but the sentence in bold. He wont loose that much time if he just uses it for like 5 hours. (maybe one hour max). So if he really wants equal skills, let him use this "epic" combo and then train controlled from then on. A Guide to Chinning in Ape atoll: up to 325kxp/h! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theoknight2 Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 + salve and berserker amulets cant stack, simply bc they're both amulets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayOxide Posted November 7, 2008 Author Share Posted November 7, 2008 ^I meant black mask and salve ammy^ anyway end of thread. I sold guthans and bought black mask. Couldnt be bothered dealing with having 200k in my bank ;) Morning already has done the most idiotic thing evar. ITT: 98% of Tipiters have no idea how to slay. -.- I dont need a siggy no moar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtaurian Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 ^I meant black mask and salve ammy^ anyway end of thread. I sold guthans and bought black mask. Couldnt be bothered dealing with having 200k in my bank ;) Morning already has done the most idiotic thing evar. ITT: 98% of Tipiters have no idea how to slay. -.- Yup, I done did the most idiotic thing evar!!1! Obvious troll is [bleep]ing obvious. To put it bluntly, [bleep] off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayOxide Posted November 7, 2008 Author Share Posted November 7, 2008 Yes I'm a troll with 2240+ posts and been here 2 years. :roll: :roll: I still lol @ you. Go read my rant on slayer. I dont need a siggy no moar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtaurian Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 Yes I'm a troll with 2240+ posts and been here 2 years. :roll: :roll: I still lol @ you. Go read my rant on slayer. Subtle troll, etc. Sure thing. OK, read it. I'd have to say that you're right about "there is no right way to train slayer," however, there are less efficient ways to train. I'm not going to tell you to go all out and use piety - I don't even do that, and I'm pretty hardcore about Slayer. But, just like with any skill, you should at least try and do it as efficiently as possible. It just saves time, you know? Again, if that's not fun for you, don't do it. With that said, you really have to expect that people will try and get you to use efficient methods when you ask for help in this forum. Disregarding it because it's not fun to you is perfectly fine, but you really can't try and argue that an efficient method, isn't efficient for YOU. An efficient method of training is efficient for everyone of the same level. With THAT said, you did get great advice in this thread, and I would personally suggest that you follow it, but do what's fun for you. If you're not a stickler for time, don't worry about it. To put it bluntly, [bleep] off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
in2it85 Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 My answers is 1. Do I keep my dh legs for the added defence, or is it un-needed? (I prolly understood this question wrong but ima try answer it anyway :P, Try minimize the usage of ur "Barrow's" items as much as you can, you wanna earn money doing slayer not spend (even tho most good assignments even out the cash on repair) 2. As soon as I can, should I buy a black mask (I'll need it eventually), or get 60, (then 70) prayer? (Black Mask is everything it should be priority #1) 3. Is guthans worth the no-food? (Yes its worth it, and youl need it to camp abby demons if u do not have very high attack+sgs+bunyip) 4. I bought a berserker necklace and obsidian sword to train strength, one of the best cheaper methods imo, would this work much on slayer, and does the effect stack with black mask and say.. salve ammy? (It works, but i wouldnt call it the "cheapest" way to train str lol i think that would be obby shield+dscim. I dont know if it stack's its been long sincei did slayer i think i used both on ud's... not sure*) And to answer on your following questions 1. Is the d scimmy really needed for slayer, especially if I dont exactly plan on using strength for slayer? (Need is a very strong word imo, you dont rly NEEEEEED it to lvl i didnt use it much, especially not since u dont plan on lvling str) 2. At 100cb, 75atk 75def 73str, 76rng, 56pry, 77hp and 81mg, who should I use as a master? (not duradel) (2nd highest ? :P, LT master or Summona) 3. I dont find a need for chivalry/piety at my combat level, really, but when should I plan on getting it? (I dont have it lol, but i would guess its good when u wanna powerlvl a melee skill @ pray spot, or pk and such..) :? 4. When should I use duradel? (Id say when ur 80-85+ in all melee skills & 65-70+pray, i say this bcz ur assignments gets bigger so you dont run out in the middle of the assignment :P) gl with ur slayin :mrgreen: Runescape Main: | + Combat 138 + | 99 HP | 99 Attack | 99 Strength | 99 Defence | Prayer 99 | Mage 99 | Slayer 90 | 99 Cooking | | 99 Fletch | 99 Summoning | Theiving 99 | Firemaking 99 | Woodcutting 99 | Agility 99 | Ranging 99 | Herblore 99 | Total skill: ~2350+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayOxide Posted November 7, 2008 Author Share Posted November 7, 2008 @in, ty. @Morning; mostly all the people on Tif who slay like extremists are 10-20 above my combat level. I dont need a siggy no moar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayOxide Posted November 7, 2008 Author Share Posted November 7, 2008 EDIT: ffs just double posted. Post in the rant not here. :roll: I dont need a siggy no moar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
in2it85 Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 @in, ty. @Morning; mostly all the people on Tif who slay like extremists are 10-20 above my combat level. I was lvl 103 combat when i hit 85 slayer, as you get higher u get more fun monsters, that drops nice things and more monsters to choose from =) Runescape Main: | + Combat 138 + | 99 HP | 99 Attack | 99 Strength | 99 Defence | Prayer 99 | Mage 99 | Slayer 90 | 99 Cooking | | 99 Fletch | 99 Summoning | Theiving 99 | Firemaking 99 | Woodcutting 99 | Agility 99 | Ranging 99 | Herblore 99 | Total skill: ~2350+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeDaStudd Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 Depends what you class as hardcore/extremist slayers. From about 55 melee stats I've been training melee almost solely slayer. And as you can see I'm just one slayer level below you and about 7 combat levels below you. Heres a few pointers I learnt (ok most of them if not all are common knowledge); *Black mask is godly, its the best 400k I've spent. *Bones to Peaches tabs are worth a great deal on certain tasks as they let you stay there for a lot longer (better then guthans in some cases). *Always use super attack and strength potions *Always take high alch runes. *Without you need the extra food, save your BoB pouch until your inventory is full of worthwhile drops. Above all remember faster kills = faster exp. If a task costs you 50k more but can be finished in half the time, spend the 50k. You can easily make the cash up later. [hide=Drops]Dragon Axe x11Berserker Ring x9Warrior Ring x8SeercullDragon MedDragon Boots x4 - all less then 30 kcGodsword Shard (bandos)Granite Maul x 3Solo only - doesn't include barrows[/hide][hide=Stats][/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayOxide Posted November 7, 2008 Author Share Posted November 7, 2008 Hmm. I might start bringing a super set to tasks - if I need them. And tbh Joe thats the first post that has 100% meaning imo. Instead of bringing alch runes should I check the Tip.It bestiary on the monster to see if it has any worth-while alchables first? I do that in some cases. I dont need a siggy no moar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumpta Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 Hmm. I might start bringing a super set to tasks - if I need them. And tbh Joe thats the first post that has 100% meaning imo. Instead of bringing alch runes should I check the Tip.It bestiary on the monster to see if it has any worth-while alchables first? I do that in some cases. Nearly all slayer monsters have worthwhile alchables. In theory, everything above the cost of a nature is. You could also bring the explorer ring for free (low) alchs for lesser drops but maximum mage training. Also good for a few run recharges for distant locations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilovecardj Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 Its really really really REALLY inefficient not to use super sets while training at any kind of training. slayer/bosses/pvp/regular training. its essentially 10+ free combat levels.... thats much much better training. They also cost so very little Dragon Drops: 80+ boots, 7 med, 3 skirt, 2 left half, 2 Spear, 2 2hSlayer: 30+ whips, 4 Bows, 1 Mask, 3 Granite Legs, 1 Visage (Wyverns)Notable GWD Splits: Bandos Tassets: 12, Bandos Chest: 11, Bandos Hilt: 2Proud Slayer of 99 Att/Str/Def/HP/Range/Summoning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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