What's you're political Idoligy

[gedboy2112]

Just what the topic say's. List you're views on as many topic's as you can/want.

 

 

 

for me

 

 

 

Dude who I want for president: RAPLH NADER WOOOT!! \ :thumbsup: =P~

 

 

 

helthcare (I know Miss spelled) universal and socialised by the goverment.

 

 

 

iraq/afgan OUT NOW!!!!

 

 

 

alternative sources of energy AT LEAST 100 billion a year from the goverment in building them.

 

 

 

abortion, pro choice

 

 

 

prostuation pro choice

 

 

 

pro gay right's

 

 

 

We need to fix the U.N and make it better. Start giving more monney to stem cell reserch.

 

Stop with the religious nut job's (I don't care if you're a christian and in office, just don't have you're religion change in ANY WAY what you would do for The USA)

 

 

 

pro (light) gun right's

 

 

 

pro leglising marijuanna

 

 

 

Get the effing illegals OUT

 

 

 

Lower the drinking age to 18 (maybe 16)

 

 

 

And anything else Liberal.

[Da Pirates]

This will turn into a huge flame war, I can see it already.

[llcoolguy972]

Fix the U.N. huh?

 

 

 

Step 1: IDENTIFY THE PROBLEM!

 

Step 2: FIX IT!

 

Step 3: IDENTIFY ANOTHER PROBLEM!

 

Step 4: FIX IT!

 

Step 5: Repeat until it's all FIXED!

[WookieeMania12]

I mostly have conservative/independent views and if you want me to post most of them, first you must find me a shrubbery and after that, you must cut the mightiest tree in the forest with.... a herring.

[Lenticular_J]

I mostly have conservative/independent views and if you want me to post most of them, first you must find me a shrubbery and after that, you must cut the mightiest tree in the forest with.... a herring.

 

NI.

 

 

 

I have relatively conservative views, but mixed with liberal and independent.

[Kenshinjapan]

OP is the perfect example of someone who should have their voting rights away. Anyone who follows an idea based solely on the category it is put in should be shot on the spot. Also, I hate being a grammar Nazi, but you can't butcher the original post of your own topic :ugeek: .

[Lateralus]

How old are you? I think I'm older than the majority of this forum and I would be embarassed to have any solid political ideology. It's brilliant that youngsters be interested in politics (not necessarily directed at OP), but there's too much reading and living to do before you can have any idea about yourself.

[Zonorhc]

I sure hope the OP is pro-education as well.

 

 

 

Because if the system's doing its job properly, he'd know that plurals aren't marked by apostrophes.

 

 

 

Also, you crazy Americans.

 

 

 

It costs you more money to run your current healthcare bureaucracy than it would to just give free healthcare to everyone in the country.

[Quoi_Tu]

It costs you more money to run your current healthcare bureaucracy than it would to just give free healthcare to everyone in the country.

 

 

 

Free health care being yearly check-ups and such or strictly Emergency Room visits?

[Saru Inc]

Just what the topic say's. List you're views on as many topic's as you can/want.

 

 

 

for me

 

 

 

Dude who I want for president: RAPLH NADER WOOOT!! \ :thumbsup: =P~

 

 

 

helthcare (I know Miss spelled) universal and socialised by the goverment.

 

 

 

iraq/afgan OUT NOW!!!!

 

 

 

alternative sources of energy AT LEAST 100 billion a year from the goverment in building them.

 

 

 

abortion, pro choice

 

 

 

prostuation pro choice

 

 

 

pro gay right's

 

 

 

We need to fix the U.N and make it better. Start giving more monney to stem cell reserch.

 

Stop with the religious nut job's (I don't care if you're a christian and in office, just don't have you're religion change in ANY WAY what you would do for The USA)

 

 

 

pro (light) gun right's

 

 

 

pro leglising marijuanna

 

 

 

Get the effing illegals OUT

 

 

 

Lower the drinking age to 18 (maybe 16)

 

 

 

And anything else Liberal.

 

 

 

Judeo Christians values have gotten AMerica to the way it is today. While yes, most of the founding fathers were Deists, or Atheists, the morals, such as Capitalism have come from Judeo Christian values.

 

 

 

 

 

Republican.

 

 

 

If that wasn't obvious before.

[Quoi_Tu]

Judeo Christians values have gotten AMerica to the way it is today. While yes, most of the founding fathers were Deists, or Atheists, the morals, such as Capitalism have come from Judeo Christian values.

 

 

 

 

 

Republican.

 

 

 

If that wasn't obvious before.

 

 

 

I was always under the impression that Christianity followed a more communist ideology (not that Christianity came from communism, but that they have similar ideas). Especially with the whole Greed being a sin and all.

[magekillr]

Wow, the OP is incredibly hard to read, although I at least understood what he was trying to get across.

 

 

 

Ralph Nader is an idiot. He might be in-line with me politically, but he's a scum-bag race baiter that will be known as the guy who called Obama an Uncle Tom, or not be remembered at all. What a pathetic face for the American progressive movement; no leadership, pure arrogance.

 

 

 

As far as what I am politically...according to this test: http://www.politicalbrew.com/politest.cgi , I am a 0 on social issues, and a 10 on economic issues. I did not have an opinion about funding the arts, however.

 

 

 

On this: http://www.politicalcompass.org/ , I am a -8.88 economically, and a -6.92 socially.

[Saru Inc]

Judeo Christians values have gotten AMerica to the way it is today. While yes, most of the founding fathers were Deists, or Atheists, the morals, such as Capitalism have come from Judeo Christian values.

 

 

 

 

 

Republican.

 

 

 

If that wasn't obvious before.

 

 

 

I was always under the impression that Christianity followed a more communist ideology (not that Christianity came from communism, but that they have similar ideas). Especially with the whole Greed being a sin and all.

 

 

 

 

 

I used to think that too. But what I discovered, is when Jesus said stuff like give away your money ,or you can;t be saved. He meant donate some, don't hoarde it, and the times he says that, he would usually say it to someone where money meant everythign to them. But no, while the Bible stresses giving to charity and the church, it also stresses reap your rewards. If you work hard, then you should be rewarded and be able to not feel guilty about having those rewards.

[Zonorhc]

It costs you more money to run your current healthcare bureaucracy than it would to just give free healthcare to everyone in the country.

 

 

 

Free health care being yearly check-ups and such or strictly Emergency Room visits?

 

I shouldn't have said free. What I meant was subsidised health care.

 

 

 

Something like Medicare as we have it here in Australia. Universal health care both in and out of hospitals, and it's reasonable to expect that consultations be free of charge as a result. No ridiculously overpriced compulsory health insurance.

 

 

 

Although it does have its flaws and inefficiencies, it's a damn sight better than what you have in the States.

[nickeley102]

individual responsibility, societal accountability

[BlueLancer]

How old are you? I think I'm older than the majority of this forum and I would be embarassed to have any solid political ideology. It's brilliant that youngsters be interested in politics (not necessarily directed at OP), but there's too much reading and living to do before you can have any idea about yourself.

 

 

 

Strict 'political ideology' goes strongly against an objective view of reality, politics, the world in general... There is no single solution to a country's problems, let alone the world's, no matter how much soapbox communists or right-wing capitalists wish to believe so. Every country is individual, has a different culture, history... Every country has it's own key to survival & progress.

 

 

 

And not to offend any specific people.. But it's extremely adolescent and immature to absolutely oppose every other view than yours, and despise people who dare to have a differing opinion. The 70's are over, so are hostile propaganda politics & ideology-based politics in the western countries. It's increasingly going towards welfare of the people, tolerance of various opinions & religions, instead of cold war/DDR-age bickering.

[dsavi]

It costs you more money to run your current healthcare bureaucracy than it would to just give free healthcare to everyone in the country.

 

I have a 3,000th post planned on just that subject. America is being ideologically stupid, I agree.

[Saru Inc]

It costs you more money to run your current healthcare bureaucracy than it would to just give free healthcare to everyone in the country.

 

I have a 3,000th post planned on just that subject. America is being ideologically stupid, I agree.

 

 

 

Well then good thing you don't live here I guess.

[dsavi]

...Anymore. No, I live in another quite socialist country, compared to the US at least.

[user1991]

American health care is a joke. It would actually be funny if it wasn't so tragic.

 

 

 

@Saruman

 

 

 

"But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. If someone strikes you on one cheek, turn to him the other also. If someone takes your cloak, do not stop him from taking your tunic. Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back. Do to others as you would have them do to you."

 

 

 

Of course, what this actually means is that Jesus supported free market capitalism as well as preventive war and interventionist foreign policy. Clearly.

[BlueLancer]

American health care is a joke. It would actually be funny if it wasn't so tragic.

 

 

 

 

The joke is on the greedy private companies that plague the health care industry. How a practicing doctor that has sworn the hippocratic medical oath of ethical practice of mecicine... Can bill minimum-wage labourers up to $300 dollars just for a check-up visit boggles my mind. These people really sleep at night?

 

 

 

Every citizen, regardless of their wealth, should have the right to stay alive and not be refused medical attention. Sadly it's not a constitutional right to even stay alive despite the US declaration of independence claiming right to life, liberty & pursuit of happiness, it has been rejected plenty of times despite having over 100 sponsors in congress:

 

 

 

HR 552, "Right to Life Act"

 

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h109-552

 

Right to Life Act - Declares that the right to life guaranteed by the Constitution is vested in each human being. Defines "human being" (and "human person") to encompass all stages of life, including but not limited to the moment of fertilization or cloning.

 

 

 

This bill never became law. This bill was proposed in a previous session of Congress. Sessions of Congress last two years, and at the end of each session all proposed bills and resolutions that haven't passed are cleared from the books.

 

 

 

Technically, there isn't any law that prohibits a doctor from telling a poor person with a brain tumor "pay the $1,600 for MRI brain imaging or don't come here again", because if the patient is in no imminent danger of dying, he has no legal obligation to help him.. Sad.

[Quoi_Tu]

@Saruman

 

 

 

"But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. If someone strikes you on one cheek, turn to him the other also. If someone takes your cloak, do not stop him from taking your tunic. Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back. Do to others as you would have them do to you."

 

 

 

Of course, what this actually means is that Jesus supported free market capitalism as well as preventive war and interventionist foreign policy. Clearly.

 

 

 

That's the quote I was trying to think of! Unfortunately, I just don't know enough of the Bible to be able to properly reference excerpts.

 

 

 

Technically, there isn't any law that prohibits a doctor from telling a poor person with a brain tumor "pay the $1,600 for MRI brain imaging or don't come here again", because if the patient is in no imminent danger of dying, he has no legal obligation to help him.. Sad.

 

 

 

As much as I hate to see people suffer, some one has to pay the bill or the hospital is going to go into a large debt rather quickly.

[nickeley102]

 

Technically, there isn't any law that prohibits a doctor from telling a poor person with a brain tumor "pay the $1,600 for MRI brain imaging or don't come here again", because if the patient is in no imminent danger of dying, he has no legal obligation to help him.. Sad.

 

 

 

As much as I hate to see people suffer, some one has to pay the bill or the hospital is going to go into a large debt rather quickly.

 

capitalism fail

[Quoi_Tu]

 

Technically, there isn't any law that prohibits a doctor from telling a poor person with a brain tumor "pay the $1,600 for MRI brain imaging or don't come here again", because if the patient is in no imminent danger of dying, he has no legal obligation to help him.. Sad.

 

 

 

As much as I hate to see people suffer, some one has to pay the bill or the hospital is going to go into a large debt rather quickly.

 

capitalism fail

 

 

 

Become Socialist because then everything is magically paid for!

 

 

 

Brains are best when put to use. Wow I sounded quite harsh... Oh well.

[BlueLancer]

 

Technically, there isn't any law that prohibits a doctor from telling a poor person with a brain tumor "pay the $1,600 for MRI brain imaging or don't come here again", because if the patient is in no imminent danger of dying, he has no legal obligation to help him.. Sad.

 

 

 

As much as I hate to see people suffer, some one has to pay the bill or the hospital is going to go into a large debt rather quickly.

 

capitalism fail

 

 

 

Become Socialist because then everything is magically paid for!

 

 

 

Brains are best when put to use. Wow I sounded quite harsh... Oh well.

 

 

 

Move to an European country, pay your taxes on time, and everything will be magically paid for.

 

 

 

If you get sick in the UK, a scandinavian country, Germany, etc... It doesn't really matter if your treatment costs 50 euros or 15,000 euros. You're not going to die, and you will be treated even if you are unemployed with 3 kids.

 

 

 

Yet those countries have much less debt than the US.