Cacmypants Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 1. Higher levels miss out: - It's so much harder to get kills when you've passed level 100, mainly because everyone at the bottom of your level range doesnt even bother trying to fight you because they are intimidated by the triple digits (so they just run). Then you end up fighting people equal or stronger than you are and it always ends in a stale-mate = NO KILLS, AT ALL!!! 2. Douche-bag chasing AI - The chasing AI sucks CRAP. It was fine back in the days of the wildy when people were running away in vast open spaces, but now all they have to do is run around an open door and your character is immobilised. Your character should directly follow the clicks of your opponent, not mindlessly submit to a "GO TO " command and get stuck behind walls. 3. Corrupt dragon weapons... WTF - They don't have SPECIALS!!! My only chance of near-consistant kill at my F2P level (111) GONE. 4. The Safespots?! - This is a complete joke, all someone has to do if they dont want to die is run into a bank with a few pieces of food left and wait TEN SECONDS. RIDICULUS. Safespots should only apply while the person is completely OUT of combat, so that the victor gets the prize they truly deserve. If you come to PvP worlds you SHOULD be prepared to lose items, if you're not - Get the hell out of my sight. 5. MAGES are redundant after combat level 40 - What should be the most powerful and feared of all classes has been made a laughing stock. Their max is a measly 16, their armor is practically non-existant and bind is a LEVEL 20 hold spell... a level 70+ mage deserves better than a freaking level 20 hold spell. This is what happens when I try to make use of bind: Me: *Casts bind and runs back a square* (oh, I just wasted 50% of my bind time) Opponent: *eats* Me: *Casts fire blast only to have it splash all over the opponents face* (bind wears off) Opponent: *continues attacking me, taking my health down by nearly a half* Me: *Casts bind - but it splashes* Opponent: *keeps attacking* Me: *Eat, Eat, Eat, Eat* (is trying to keep up with the damage being dealt) Option One: I run like a wimp (this option is commonly taken, indeed) Option Two: I die - proving that the combat triangle LIED TO ME. In short, Mages need to be more potent in 1 on 1 combat, this probably could be fixed by giving F2P the LEVEL 50 hold spell: Snare. 6. Weapon switching is lame... - Ok... before I get flamed, I know that this is a widely used method of pking, but it's more like design flaw than an actual game mechanic. Being able to switch from a scimitar to a 2hander and attacking almost instantaneously denotes a "WTF". You're probably asking: "But, why is weapon switching a bad thing?" - let me put it simply - For a split seconds, you possess a 2hander sword with the same attack speed as a scimitar, I regard this as an inconsistency. It's a cheap trick that catches ignorant players off-guard. The attack cool-down timer is based purely off what weapon you last attacked with and could be easily fixed if the timer was based of what weapon you were HOLDING, so that if you were to switch from a scimitar to a 2hander, the cool-down timer could lengthen itself to the appropriate attack rate. The sad thing is that many players have resorted to weapon switching because there is literally NO other way for high leveled meleers to attain kills, and even then it is difficult mainly because most players choose to "safe" whenever they fight and then run when they are out of food. 7. SAFEING is NOT the problem. - Let's get this straight, the problem is not SAFEING in itself, but the ratio of health that can be healed compared to the damage that be be delivered. Look at memebers, 4 ddp++ specials are capiable of taking down 99 HP even if the victim is eating as fast as possible with the best food possible. In non members, sure... you can hit 20+ 3 times in a row leaving your opponent on relitavly low health, but they can eat ~1.5 times every one of your attacks, that means they can heal ~63 out of the ~60 damage you just dealt. This means F2P players can NEVER be FORCED to die like in members, whenever someone is killed in non members, it is ALWAYS the fault of the victim, not the attacker (Forgetting to eat or simply choosing not to run away when loseing) I believe that this is a problem that CANNOT be fixed... which is a shame... F2P PvP is so broken... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compfreak847 Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 FTP pretty much stinks for PVP. They just don't have enough good weapons to deliver some real KO actions, yet they have the (stupid) teleport spells. Losing? Just hit falador tele and your fine. And yeah, the finding AI needs a LOT of work. I'm sick of getting stuck on a table or rock. I can't really think of any good solutions though. Drops: 1x Draconic Visage, 56x Abyssal Whip, 5x Demon Head, D Drops: 37, Barrows Drops: 43, DK Drops: 29GWD drops: 14,000x Bars, 1x Armadyl Hilt, 2x Armadyl Skirt, 4x Sara Sword, 1x Saradomin Hilt, 8x Bandos Hilt, 8x Bandos Platebody, 9x Bandos Tassets, 4x Bandos Boots, 43x Godsword Shard, 82x Dragon BootsDry streak records: Saradomin 412 kills Bandos 988 kills Spirit Mages 633 kills - Slayer Sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skull Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 The only way I've managed to get kills has been through lucky ko's or my opponent running out of food and me killing them within the 10 seconds in the safe zone. [bleep] the law, they can eat my dick that's word to Pimp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basiliko Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 At least there is no 117 damages or Steel Titian Special in F2P world The Haraguroi Club: Where Yandere Thrive for Chopping Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcranger0 Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 1. Higher levels miss out: - It's so much harder to get kills when you've passed level 100, mainly because everyone at the bottom of your level range doesnt even bother trying to fight you because they are intimidated by the triple digits (so they just run). Then you end up fighting people equal or stronger than you are and it always ends in a stale-mate = NO KILLS, AT ALL!!! 2. Douche-bag chasing AI - The chasing AI sucks CRAP. It was fine back in the days of the wildy when people were running away in vast open spaces, but now all they have to do is run around an open door and your character is immobilised. Your character should directly follow the clicks of your opponent, not mindlessly submit to a "GO TO " command and get stuck behind walls. 3. Corrupt dragon weapons... WTF - They don't have SPECIALS!!! My only chance of near-consistant kill at my F2P level (111) GONE. 4. The Safespots?! - This is a complete joke, all someone has to do if they dont want to die is run into a bank with a few pieces of food left and wait TEN SECONDS. RIDICULUS. Safespots should only apply while the person is completely OUT of combat, so that the victor gets the prize they truly deserve. If you come to PvP worlds you SHOULD be prepared to lose items, if you're not - Get the hell out of my sight. 5. MAGES are redundant after combat level 40 - What should be the most powerful and feared of all classes has been made a laughing stock. Their max is a measly 16, their armor is practically non-existant and bind is a LEVEL 20 hold spell... a level 70+ mage deserves better than a freaking level 20 hold spell. This is what happens when I try to make use of bind: Me: *Casts bind and runs back a square* (oh, I just wasted 50% of my bind time) Opponent: *eats* Me: *Casts fire blast only to have it splash all over the opponents face* (bind wears off) Opponent: *continues attacking me, taking my health down by nearly a half* Me: *Casts bind - but it splashes* Opponent: *keeps attacking* Me: *Eat, Eat, Eat, Eat* (is trying to keep up with the damage being dealt) Option One: I run like a wimp (this option is commonly taken, indeed) Option Two: I die - proving that the combat triangle LIED TO ME. In short, Mages need to be more potent in 1 on 1 combat, this probably could be fixed by giving F2P the LEVEL 50 hold spell: Snare. 6. Weapon switching is lame... - Ok... before I get flamed, I know that this is a widely used method of pking, but it's more like design flaw than an actual game mechanic. Being able to switch from a scimitar to a 2hander and attacking almost instantaneously denotes a "WTF". You're probably asking: "But, why is weapon switching a bad thing?" - let me put it simply - For a split seconds, you possess a 2hander sword with the same attack speed as a scimitar, I regard this as an inconsistency. It's a cheap trick that catches ignorant players off-guard. The attack cool-down timer is based purely off what weapon you last attacked with and could be easily fixed if the timer was based of what weapon you were HOLDING, so that if you were to switch from a scimitar to a 2hander, the cool-down timer could lengthen itself to the appropriate attack rate. The sad thing is that many players have resorted to weapon switching because there is literally NO other way for high leveled meleers to attain kills, and even then it is difficult mainly because most players choose to "safe" whenever they fight and then run when they are out of food. 7. SAFEING is NOT the problem. - Let's get this straight, the problem is not SAFEING in itself, but the ratio of health that can be healed compared to the damage that be be delivered. Look at memebers, 4 ddp++ specials are capiable of taking down 99 HP even if the victim is eating as fast as possible with the best food possible. In non members, sure... you can hit 20+ 3 times in a row leaving your opponent on relitavly low health, but they can eat ~1.5 times every one of your attacks, that means they can heal ~63 out of the ~60 damage you just dealt. This means F2P players can NEVER be FORCED to die like in members, whenever someone is killed in non members, it is ALWAYS the fault of the victim, not the attacker (Forgetting to eat or simply choosing not to run away when loseing) I believe that this is a problem that CANNOT be fixed... which is a shame... F2P PvP is so broken... #1: f2p kills r not hard at all, in fact p2p has more luck involved whereas f2p requires some skill #2: simple...dont fight near obstacles...if u have some logic #3: if corrupt dragon weps had...specials...then the chance of a k0 is 100%...im sure u wudnt like that wud u? #4: im sure u have run like a chicken in the past too...espically when u mage like u stated #5: mages...IF u have a DECENT mage lvl u will inflict more damage using mage on rune full than with melee; of course bind is not meant to keep ur opponent from forever standing there like a dummy; if u suffer 2 much damage using mage...then maybe u shud try ur 0s with melee; ur range needs a bit of work as it is the most effective combat style in f2p #6: u just got the whole concept wrong...what ur saying is that if u started a fight with a 2h...u wud click...wait the 3-5sec..and then hit ur first hit...LOL; after a scimmy...u need 2-4sec to hit again...so...if u recover ur time...and 2h...then its the same as atking with 2h at the beginning of the fight... #7: safing is not a problem actually...it helps the person who DOESNT safe; besides everyone who safes is nothing but a scared wimp afraid of losing...200k in f2p? of course safing cannot b fixed...and ur got ur damage/eat calculations wrong... Dragon Weps: 31(scimmy) + 33 (2h)= 64 damage eating: 14*3= 42 healed result: quite an easy k0 f2p pvp happens to be dominated by range/2h combos as they can be tricky sometimes there are several pking techniques which can help u get ez k0s so try learning some of ur own... there really are NO issues in f2p pvp except maybe 1-iteming, safing, and drop tables (controversial) basically my conclusion is...u r a horrible pker who has no experience at all in pking and has no idea HOW to pk properly so stop whining just because u cant kill anyone or is rejected to a fight against a lower leveled player and try to LEARN i see lvl 110s fighting all the time in w21 and w32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cacmypants Posted November 23, 2008 Author Share Posted November 23, 2008 1. Higher levels miss out: - It's so much harder to get kills when you've passed level 100, mainly because everyone at the bottom of your level range doesnt even bother trying to fight you because they are intimidated by the triple digits (so they just run). Then you end up fighting people equal or stronger than you are and it always ends in a stale-mate = NO KILLS, AT ALL!!! 2. Douche-bag chasing AI - The chasing AI sucks CRAP. It was fine back in the days of the wildy when people were running away in vast open spaces, but now all they have to do is run around an open door and your character is immobilised. Your character should directly follow the clicks of your opponent, not mindlessly submit to a "GO TO " command and get stuck behind walls. 3. Corrupt dragon weapons... WTF - They don't have SPECIALS!!! My only chance of near-consistant kill at my F2P level (111) GONE. 4. The Safespots?! - This is a complete joke, all someone has to do if they dont want to die is run into a bank with a few pieces of food left and wait TEN SECONDS. RIDICULUS. Safespots should only apply while the person is completely OUT of combat, so that the victor gets the prize they truly deserve. If you come to PvP worlds you SHOULD be prepared to lose items, if you're not - Get the hell out of my sight. 5. MAGES are redundant after combat level 40 - What should be the most powerful and feared of all classes has been made a laughing stock. Their max is a measly 16, their armor is practically non-existant and bind is a LEVEL 20 hold spell... a level 70+ mage deserves better than a freaking level 20 hold spell. This is what happens when I try to make use of bind: Me: *Casts bind and runs back a square* (oh, I just wasted 50% of my bind time) Opponent: *eats* Me: *Casts fire blast only to have it splash all over the opponents face* (bind wears off) Opponent: *continues attacking me, taking my health down by nearly a half* Me: *Casts bind - but it splashes* Opponent: *keeps attacking* Me: *Eat, Eat, Eat, Eat* (is trying to keep up with the damage being dealt) Option One: I run like a wimp (this option is commonly taken, indeed) Option Two: I die - proving that the combat triangle LIED TO ME. In short, Mages need to be more potent in 1 on 1 combat, this probably could be fixed by giving F2P the LEVEL 50 hold spell: Snare. 6. Weapon switching is lame... - Ok... before I get flamed, I know that this is a widely used method of pking, but it's more like design flaw than an actual game mechanic. Being able to switch from a scimitar to a 2hander and attacking almost instantaneously denotes a "WTF". You're probably asking: "But, why is weapon switching a bad thing?" - let me put it simply - For a split seconds, you possess a 2hander sword with the same attack speed as a scimitar, I regard this as an inconsistency. It's a cheap trick that catches ignorant players off-guard. The attack cool-down timer is based purely off what weapon you last attacked with and could be easily fixed if the timer was based of what weapon you were HOLDING, so that if you were to switch from a scimitar to a 2hander, the cool-down timer could lengthen itself to the appropriate attack rate. The sad thing is that many players have resorted to weapon switching because there is literally NO other way for high leveled meleers to attain kills, and even then it is difficult mainly because most players choose to "safe" whenever they fight and then run when they are out of food. 7. SAFEING is NOT the problem. - Let's get this straight, the problem is not SAFEING in itself, but the ratio of health that can be healed compared to the damage that be be delivered. Look at memebers, 4 ddp++ specials are capiable of taking down 99 HP even if the victim is eating as fast as possible with the best food possible. In non members, sure... you can hit 20+ 3 times in a row leaving your opponent on relitavly low health, but they can eat ~1.5 times every one of your attacks, that means they can heal ~63 out of the ~60 damage you just dealt. This means F2P players can NEVER be FORCED to die like in members, whenever someone is killed in non members, it is ALWAYS the fault of the victim, not the attacker (Forgetting to eat or simply choosing not to run away when loseing) I believe that this is a problem that CANNOT be fixed... which is a shame... F2P PvP is so broken... #1: f2p kills r not hard at all, in fact p2p has more luck involved whereas f2p requires some skill #2: simple...dont fight near obstacles...if u have some logic #3: if corrupt dragon weps had...specials...then the chance of a k0 is 100%...im sure u wudnt like that wud u? #4: im sure u have run like a chicken in the past too...espically when u mage like u stated #5: mages...IF u have a DECENT mage lvl u will inflict more damage using mage on rune full than with melee; of course bind is not meant to keep ur opponent from forever standing there like a dummy; if u suffer 2 much damage using mage...then maybe u shud try ur 0s with melee; ur range needs a bit of work as it is the most effective combat style in f2p #6: u just got the whole concept wrong...what ur saying is that if u started a fight with a 2h...u wud click...wait the 3-5sec..and then hit ur first hit...LOL; after a scimmy...u need 2-4sec to hit again...so...if u recover ur time...and 2h...then its the same as atking with 2h at the beginning of the fight... #7: safing is not a problem actually...it helps the person who DOESNT safe; besides everyone who safes is nothing but a scared wimp afraid of losing...200k in f2p? of course safing cannot b fixed...and ur got ur damage/eat calculations wrong... Dragon Weps: 31(scimmy) + 33 (2h)= 64 damage eating: 14*3= 42 healed result: quite an easy k0 f2p pvp happens to be dominated by range/2h combos as they can be tricky sometimes there are several pking techniques which can help u get ez k0s so try learning some of ur own... there really are NO issues in f2p pvp except maybe 1-iteming, safing, and drop tables (controversial) basically my conclusion is...u r a horrible pker who has no experience at all in pking and has no idea HOW to pk properly so stop whining just because u cant kill anyone or is rejected to a fight against a lower leveled player and try to LEARN i see lvl 110s fighting all the time in w21 and w32 Your arguements are weak and personalised. I wouldnt have made this rant is I diddnt know what I was talking about and you make false accusations against me. :shame: To your comment on: #1 - NO, they both requires luck and skill and F2P kills are ALOT less attainable than P2P, especially for higher levels #2 - You don't have much choice when the first thing your opponent runs to is an obstacle do you? Besides the fact that most pking hotspots are surrounded by obstacles. #3 - I'll admit, there would be certain chaos if corrupt dragon weapons had specials, but it's still slack. #4 - I'm fully prepared to die in PvP, I can easily afford the loss, it's just I'm always the one who's winning, and don't need to run. #5 - WTF, stop peaking at my highscore. Oh and btw, REALITY CHECK, of course holding spells are meant to keep your opponent "standing there like a dummy" (is looking at ice barrage). It's exactly why mages should be feared. #6 - Lol, again, I'll admit that I confused myself in trying to explain this, but all I'm trying to say is: "Jagex needs to fix the fighting mechanics, so that if you want to switch weapons, you do it at a disadvantage, not an advantage" #7 - No, I did not get those calculations wrong: If you click fast enough you can eat 1.5 times in the time it takes for one of yoru opponents attacks. therefore, if your opponent just hit 3 ~20s You heal (maximum) - 14 x 4.5 = 63 hits (I know you cant eat a half, but that's in ratio to the attack rate of a scimitar) You take - 3 x ~20 = ~60 hits of course, you could be hit higher, but honestly, what are the odds of hitting 20+ 3+ times in a row in F2P?! this is an approximation, not literal and why the hell did you "correct" it with dragon wepaons when this rant is clearly F2P. Once again, scimitar/2h combos is NOT a PKING TECHNIQUE, it is exploiting a DESIGN FLAW, cant you see that? I dont care how WIDELY it is used... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meb Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 There is no high level F2P support because high level F2P'ers are a minority. Most ppl either quit or get members once they reach a higher level. Retired 2146 overall - 136 combat - 6 skillcapes Plus I think the whole teenage girl thing will end soon (hopefully), because my girlfriend is absolutely in love with him(she is 18), and im beginning to feel threatened by his [Justin Bieber] dashing looks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balazeal Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 There is no high level F2P support because high level F2P'ers are a minority. Most ppl either quit or get members once they reach a higher level. Most accurate statement yet. 100% F2P99 Defense, Tuesday February 10th 200999 Attack, Tuesday May 26th 200962,189th to get it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sees_all1 Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 5. MAGES are redundant after combat level 40 - What should be the most powerful and feared of all classes has been made a laughing stock. Their max is a measly 16, their armor is practically non-existant and bind is a LEVEL 20 hold spell... a level 70+ mage deserves better than a freaking level 20 hold spell. This is what happens when I try to make use of bind: Me: *Casts bind and runs back a square* (oh, I just wasted 50% of my bind time) Opponent: *eats* Me: *Casts fire blast only to have it splash all over the opponents face* (bind wears off) Opponent: *continues attacking me, taking my health down by nearly a half* Me: *Casts bind - but it splashes* Opponent: *keeps attacking* Me: *Eat, Eat, Eat, Eat* (is trying to keep up with the damage being dealt) I don't know about you, but I am actually a lvl 89 F2P'er - with 89 str and 75 mage. Dress up as a mage (IE use runecrafting clothes, or combat robes - none of this cruddy blue skirt, blue hat, etc), attack someone with rune. If they have any sense at all, they'll take their armor off. Keep fireblasting until you get them to around 25 health, then whip out your R2H, and boom, PK. Also, bind is a piece of cabbage. True, it would be nice to have a much better hold spell, but when jagex gives you lemons, make lemonade. You need to use magic near a fence to be completely effective. A simple side step keeps them there for about 2-3 hits, before they have enough sense to come to your side, then repeat the process. Use bind only when they're running to the bank - keep them away from there with your bind. ______ I also PK with my nub acct, sqelt. He's got 52 mage, and I can tell you, I've never lost with him. Try making a low level, they're easier to kill with. 99 dungeoneering achieved, thanks to everyone that celebrated with me! ♪♪ Don't interrupt me as I struggle to complete this thoughtHave some respect for someone more forgetful than yourself ♪♪♪♪ And I'm not doneAnd I won't be till my head falls off ♪♪ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcranger0 Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 cacmypants, to ur response: therefore, if your opponent just hit 3 ~20s You heal (maximum) - 14 x 4.5 = 63 hits (I know you cant eat a half, but that's in ratio to the attack rate of a scimitar) You take - 3 x ~20 = ~60 hits of course, you could be hit higher, but honestly, what are the odds of hitting 20+ 3+ times in a row in F2P?! this is an approximation, not literal and why the hell did you "correct" it with dragon wepaons when this rant is clearly F2P. Once again, scimitar/2h combos is NOT a PKING TECHNIQUE, it is exploiting a DESIGN FLAW, cant you see that? I dont care how WIDELY it is used... _________________________________________________________________________________________________________ im sorry but ur hit ratio is wrong u can eat 3 times in 2 hits therefore 26*2 with a rune scimmy= 52damage 14*3=42 clearly u can kill and clearly if ur not stupid u will 2h and clearly it is not a "EXPLOITATION"...i suppose u didnt read my explanation...its the same as fighting a whole fight with 2h...u stil hav to restore ur hit time...and u do after u use scimmy... #-o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cacmypants Posted November 24, 2008 Author Share Posted November 24, 2008 There is no high level F2P support because high level F2P'ers are a minority. Most ppl either quit or get members once they reach a higher level. Most accurate statement yet. You ever consider that some people PREFER F2P PvP? If you're a member it doesnt stop you from using F2P worlds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omar Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Try making a lower level account. It's (probably, I'm only 98 on my main in F2P) easier to get kills. Problem with PvP is the PJers though. It ticks me off when I finally get into a proper fight with someone, then we both eat at the same time, and some stupid 1-itemer attacks me. I run to a safe zone while eating to evade their blows, make them know I don't want to fight them, and they will still flipping hold onto me until I hope worlds. I can't afford (well I can but I'd rather PK than run airs) to waste food on PJers. 50% of my lobs are taken up like that. Matt: You want that eh? You want everything good for you. You want everything that's--falls off garbage can Camera guy: Whoa, haha, are you okay dude? Matt: You want anything funny that happens, don't you? Camera guy: still laughing Matt: You want the funny shit that happens here and there, you think it comes out of your [bleep]ing [wagon] pushes garbage can down, don't you? You think it's funny? It comes out of here! running towards Camera guy Camera guy: runs away still laughing Matt: You think the funny comes out of your mother[bleep]ing creativity? Comes out of Satan, mother[bleep]er! nn--ngh! pushes Camera guy down Camera guy: Hoooholy [bleep]! Matt: FUNNY ISN'T REAL! FUNNY ISN'T REAL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yomyth105 Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 in f2p its hard to solo and get kills. 1) loot isnt great 2) cant ko so every battle ends up in a retreat/teleport 3)banks r safespots. 4) too many pjers try to pk away from banks but make sure u dont get teamed on or pjed for that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cacmypants Posted November 25, 2008 Author Share Posted November 25, 2008 I actually have tried a few low level pures and frankly... THEY KICK [wagon]. too bad the drops are [bleep]ing [cabbage]house.... kill frequency seems to go DOWN as you become stronger, which is stupid game design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Maddest Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 I'm not too sure if you've heard about fighting WITHOUT ARMOUR but it sure as heck gets you KOs :D . Pjing isn't really as bad as it is in BH. The real problem with PvP worlds is the abysmal loot. It's hard to even break even if using swordies (very useful at high levels). The point about bind is also very true. The point about F2P magic being rubbish is, however, not. Magic is mandatory for success in clan PKing. That being said, bind is really, really awful -- both the duration of the spell and the spell accuracy :| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omar Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 too bad the drops are [bleep] [cabbage].... My best loot is an addy chain :-# 40 CB >_> Matt: You want that eh? You want everything good for you. You want everything that's--falls off garbage can Camera guy: Whoa, haha, are you okay dude? Matt: You want anything funny that happens, don't you? Camera guy: still laughing Matt: You want the funny shit that happens here and there, you think it comes out of your [bleep]ing [wagon] pushes garbage can down, don't you? You think it's funny? It comes out of here! running towards Camera guy Camera guy: runs away still laughing Matt: You think the funny comes out of your mother[bleep]ing creativity? Comes out of Satan, mother[bleep]er! nn--ngh! pushes Camera guy down Camera guy: Hoooholy [bleep]! Matt: FUNNY ISN'T REAL! FUNNY ISN'T REAL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairness Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 There's a friend of mine who PKs with sub-25k gear with his strength pure. He only gains addy stuff, but apparently it adds up over time so much, he doesn't lose money, and even gains some depending on his luck... Now to address the actual topic, one thing on safing. If someone eats, then he can't fight. If someone constantly has to eat, he may be impossible to defeat, but you won't lose anything other than the used up runes/arrows (if applicable). If he fights back, he is risking and thus can be defeated. 1-2 lobster losses are negligible against someone who builds a fortress of food around himself. With the high levels, yes, stalemates are the only problem, because the defensive capabilities increase more than the offensive ones (in F2P). I don't know about corrupt drag weapons, but even if they were godly things I wouldn't buy them for several hundred K just to be able to kill for 20 mins and get back an addy item for my money. You're forgetting a bind can also be used in fighting in teams and to escape. For 2 and 4, I agree 100%. You're being watched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omar Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 There's a friend of mine who PKs with sub-25k gear with his strength pure. He only gains addy stuff, but apparently it adds up over time so much, he doesn't lose money, and even gains some depending on his luck... I PK in iron, d'hide, and a rune scim, and I'm LUCKY if I get adamant stuff. Matt: You want that eh? You want everything good for you. You want everything that's--falls off garbage can Camera guy: Whoa, haha, are you okay dude? Matt: You want anything funny that happens, don't you? Camera guy: still laughing Matt: You want the funny shit that happens here and there, you think it comes out of your [bleep]ing [wagon] pushes garbage can down, don't you? You think it's funny? It comes out of here! running towards Camera guy Camera guy: runs away still laughing Matt: You think the funny comes out of your mother[bleep]ing creativity? Comes out of Satan, mother[bleep]er! nn--ngh! pushes Camera guy down Camera guy: Hoooholy [bleep]! Matt: FUNNY ISN'T REAL! FUNNY ISN'T REAL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Maddest Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 There's a friend of mine who PKs with sub-25k gear with his strength pure. He only gains addy stuff, but apparently it adds up over time so much, he doesn't lose money, and even gains some depending on his luck... I PK in iron, d'hide, and a rune scim, and I'm LUCKY if I get adamant stuff. I PK in full rune w/ scimi and 2h and I'm LUCKY to get 60k+ in a drop (bearing in mind both my opponent and I are risking 200k+ and an inventory of 26 swordfish costs 9K+) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omar Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 I'm not saying that I'm the only one who has problems, I'm saying that that guy was most likely lying. Matt: You want that eh? You want everything good for you. You want everything that's--falls off garbage can Camera guy: Whoa, haha, are you okay dude? Matt: You want anything funny that happens, don't you? Camera guy: still laughing Matt: You want the funny shit that happens here and there, you think it comes out of your [bleep]ing [wagon] pushes garbage can down, don't you? You think it's funny? It comes out of here! running towards Camera guy Camera guy: runs away still laughing Matt: You think the funny comes out of your mother[bleep]ing creativity? Comes out of Satan, mother[bleep]er! nn--ngh! pushes Camera guy down Camera guy: Hoooholy [bleep]! Matt: FUNNY ISN'T REAL! FUNNY ISN'T REAL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairness Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 I'm not saying that I'm the only one who has problems, I'm saying that that guy was most likely lying. Yeah? Say that to his face. I'm not saying this as in "ROFL MY FRIEND IS AN IDIOT", I'm saying this as in "This is the truth, ph34r me". You're being watched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Maddest Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 I'm not saying that I'm the only one who has problems, I'm saying that that guy was most likely lying. Yeah? Say that to his face. I'm not saying this as in "ROFL MY FRIEND IS AN IDIOT", I'm saying this as in "This is the truth, ph34r me". Still, if both players are risking ~100k (2h and scimi), it's still unfair addy full helms are the only loot you get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omar Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 I'm not saying that I'm the only one who has problems, I'm saying that that guy was most likely lying. Yeah? Say that to his face. I'm not saying this as in "ROFL MY FRIEND IS AN IDIOT", I'm saying this as in "This is the truth, ph34r me". I'm not insulting him or anything, I'm saying he's probably lying. I've lied before, and you probably have too. That doesn't make us stupid. If you still want me to tell him, then I will (providing you give him his RSN and you wait until this weekend). Maybe he uses tuna for food or something, but I still think it's highly unlikely. Matt: You want that eh? You want everything good for you. You want everything that's--falls off garbage can Camera guy: Whoa, haha, are you okay dude? Matt: You want anything funny that happens, don't you? Camera guy: still laughing Matt: You want the funny shit that happens here and there, you think it comes out of your [bleep]ing [wagon] pushes garbage can down, don't you? You think it's funny? It comes out of here! running towards Camera guy Camera guy: runs away still laughing Matt: You think the funny comes out of your mother[bleep]ing creativity? Comes out of Satan, mother[bleep]er! nn--ngh! pushes Camera guy down Camera guy: Hoooholy [bleep]! Matt: FUNNY ISN'T REAL! FUNNY ISN'T REAL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairness Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 I've lied before. <- Then again, I might be lying. Jokes aside, I haven't asked him what food he uses. I only know he protects the scimmy. The food thing might be the catch though. You're being watched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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