lordhathor Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 The following are some images and photos from Iraq, that you will never see in the news. Just let this remind you that not everything you hear on the news is true, and not every truth is the whole truth. At the very least, we can not support the war, but we must always support our troops with families, and friends, and a hundred people each who care about them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightLite Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 i dont know what to say other than thank you.. This is the truth behind the twisted media, and thanks for sharing it with us - Only character in Runescape History maxed out in RSC and RS2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercifull Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 Ive seen a few of those before. The cat one is especially cute ^_^ You have to be wary of signs images tho. They can be easily messed with. Mercifull <3 Suzi "We don't want players to be able to buy their way to success in RuneScape. If we let players start doing this, it devalues RuneScape for others. We feel your status in real-life shouldn't affect your ability to be successful in RuneScape" Jagex 01/04/01 - 02/03/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightLite Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 Ive seen a few of those before. The cat one is especially cute ^_^ You have to be wary of signs images tho. They can be easily messed with. As much as I hate anti-Bush stuff, that was really funny.. :lol: - Only character in Runescape History maxed out in RSC and RS2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayjest Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 *Waits for the inevitable 'liberal media' argument* Nice pictures. It's the same with everything though - only bad stuff gets reported. A few weekends ago I and a few friends helped clean up a (frankly digustingly) rundown council estate, as part of an outreach project. That didn't make the news. What did make the news is that some kids from the same estate broke into the local newsagency while we were doing it. Only bad stuff ever gets reported, only good stuff. Goals to get my skills back up to a barely respectable level on the high scores: Currently going for Bone to Peaches spell. It's amazing how boring doing the same repetitive task is! Stupid MTA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higothrekk Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 Not to say there aren't still dangers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purecheese Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 I don't really see where you want to go with this post. Are you trying to say that I'm wrong for believing that the war in iraq is wrong? Or are you just trying to show that the war in iraq results atleast in a few good things? Sure enough good things have come from the war in iraq. But they do not make up for all the terrible things that have come from it. Nor do they justify the war. I'm not looking to go into a whole argument over this as there have been plenty before :P And I definately do agree that it's good to look at the brightside of the war in iraq for a change :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrB33n Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 Media are full of bs, ty for posting these Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unknownmasterofnothing Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 of course the media will always report bad news. Dunno why, but they're more likely to report deaths than babys being born. People tend to only care about the bad. Both sides of the story are good though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyro Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 For all we know these images could be false and that which is said in the media is correct. Or the other way around. It's better to just realize we don't really know anything and sulk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketman089 Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 Ive seen a few of those before. The cat one is especially cute ^_^ You have to be wary of signs images tho. They can be easily messed with. Sure you can do that, but at least the picture of the woman holding 2 peices of paper with writing on it looks more realistic. Anyway, I have to say those are some really, really nice pics. A few months ago I had an Army Colonel come into one of my classes, and he gave a presentation on that other facet of the war. Sad truth is, most people are pessimists and only want to hear about the bad stuff, or it's just the only thing that'll spark some interest. Gamertag: King Arizona Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubsa Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 Believe it or not, there are humans in Iraq. Just some guys in camo acting friendly. That's great, don't get me wrong, but it's not something new (suprisingly) This is how much you all raised for charity. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLancer Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 Remember it's just as easy to stage a propaganda photograph as it is to draw one. No doubt many iraqis would rather have Saddam 'uninstalled' but the pictures don't always give you the truth. During Stalin's time the use of propaganda photographs was not common, but that's not to imply images didn't have huge impact on what people thought about him and his wars: It's an image depicting him as a friendly family-man who thinks for the best of his people, poster released just before a major military campaign (but we all know now that Stalin really wasn't a... Friend of the people, unless killing 20 million of your own people counts) But naturally, I can relate to the iraqi's because they had a dictatorial regime removed and you can't really go but up after Saddam (people's lives during his regime was probably hell for the non-elite). However you must remember not many of them are well-educated about the situation and the real motives behind the war. But just because a few U.S. Soldiers sympathetise with the locals, it doesn't mean you've seen all of the 130,000+ soldiers. http://www.aztlan.net/iraqi_women_raped.htm You probably saw this on CBS news (warning: If you could be shocked by this kind of content, do not read the article. Mod can feel free to remove the link, it links to an article of U.S. soldiers raping a civilian). There are always two sides to a coin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antrune Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 Ive seen a few of those before. The cat one is especially cute ^_^ You have to be wary of signs images tho. They can be easily messed with. As much as I hate anti-Bush stuff, that was really funny.. :lol: I gotta agree there, good to see some positive pictures :D And no lol why do you always want to get stuff from John Lewis. Its over ̣̉300 more then than what i paid. John Lewis is a great, great shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legolover64 Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 Finally, someone who agrees that we are doing people a service in their country, rather than those other news companies (ABC) thinking that it's a mistake. A wonderful post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackalope14 Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 I don't really see where you want to go with this post. Are you trying to say that I'm wrong for believing that the war in iraq is wrong? Or are you just trying to show that the war in iraq results atleast in a few good things? Sure enough good things have come from the war in iraq. But they do not make up for all the terrible things that have come from it. Nor do they justify the war. I'm not looking to go into a whole argument over this as there have been plenty before :P And I definately do agree that it's good to look at the brightside of the war in iraq for a change :) Where is he gong with this post? He is just showing some happy photos instead of everything we see on TV. He is not trying to change your mind about the war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comet2002 Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 Thanks for posting these images! I really like seeing the more positive part of the war then what the media protrays. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s1nister Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 I love your sig. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesselt Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 Yep, there are quite a couple of good things that happen there. A few pictures doesn't prove anything though. I'm sure you could also find pictures of nazies playing with little children and having a good old time, but just because a few people think it's a good thing, doesn't mean that it is. A couple months ago it was discovered that a man that was screaming something about thanking America (was ALL over the news) was actually payed to say so.... A man came to the town where I lived and told the town his story about Iraq. He had just recently came back, and told us that he was assigned to give the people in Iraq food. Then he told us that he was only permitted to do so when there was news reporters around. He and the rest of his "team"(for lack of a better word) ignored these orders and gave them food even when there weren't reporters around. This showes us that some of the soldiers are doing the right thing, but some are raping women and only putting on a show for reporters. Pictures don't prove anything. Plus, you could probably find those pics all over fox once a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Average_Hobo Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 Well I won't share my views on the war because this should be a happy topic and not a flaming one. All these pictures show 3 things, People can be good, people can be bad, pictures can be edited (That was classic merciful :lol:). Thats really all their is to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordhathor Posted July 15, 2005 Author Share Posted July 15, 2005 Pictures can be edited - Yes, but obviously, at least some of these weren't. It's sad to admit, but some people would manufacture photos just to sway public views, and some would be weak-minded enough to see a photo of one man doing one good thing, and change their opinion entirely. Everyone is entitled tot heir own opinion, wether it's popular or not... Even the weak-minded ones. As for my opinion, I support the "war" - but I really don't think of it as a war anymore. It's really more like a policing action. (nobody bring up vietnham :lol:) I see that some are still forced to fight, but the same is true in America. We are trying to do what we think is best, and trying to help people who were opressed and raped and murdered horribly, be free. I admit, I only heard about the terrible things Saddam has done on the news, I don't have much in the way of sources outside of that, but I believe he was a very bad man, and at the very least, not fit to lead because of the terrble things he's done. I don't support every single action we've taken, but no action can ever be supported by 100% of the population. Even an effort to "Not burn baby kittens" or something would find the odd protester. I do know, however, that at the time we egan the "war" (which was, at that point, still a war) over 60% of the country had supported it. The president and congress would not have done it if less than half the population supported it - and it's important to point out that the war is still supported by over half the population. (of america) It's also important to keep in mind that the president was not the one who said "let's go to war, mm'kay?" - He went to CONGRESS and said "can go go to war plx!?" and THEY voted, and decided to. All the budget, and resources, and the decision to go to war in the first place - It was all congress. Bush can only make suggestions in that area. If anyone is to be blamed, it is congress, and in that case, everyone who supported the war (still over half of the US) is just as "guilty". Anyway, the purpose of this post, was to show that we're not roaming around, beating people up and yelling at them "get back in yo' cage, y'hear!?" We're there trying to do good - and good, we are doing. The people are more protected, and more free now, and will be much more so once we leave and they're able to protect their own citizens with the police force we're trying to help them set up. The things you hear in the news, are never like "Ten people were saved today, when a car bombing was stopped by a US military officer. They were 9 children on the way to their school with packages of supplies that the US army provided for them, and one busdriver who had just been hired out of poverty, and given a job with which he can support his family". Those things happen every day, but you never hear about them. I just thought it was important to remind everyone, though you all already know it in the back (or front) of your minds, that we are still doing good, or at the very least, trying to. Ten people may have died that day, but another ten were saved. What more can we ask for? We can't be everywhere at once, and not everyone can be saved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesselt Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 ^ The war on TERROR was supported after 9/11. That's because people thought that we were actually going to search for OSAMA (everyone remember him?)... If we really wanted to find him as much as we did Saddam, we would have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordhathor Posted July 16, 2005 Author Share Posted July 16, 2005 There's a whole country to search, and one guy in a turban protected by thousand of others. It's a bit difficult. :P We are still looking for him though. You just never hear about it because nobody wants to comment until we've done it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas19 Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 How many iraqis really do speak english? Not that many Iraqis love the American soldiers and I remember seeing a survey in which the majority wanted them to leave. Signs like that could also be planted (which I doubt) or used as 'white flags' (which I think is very often the case). But you're right about the two sides of the coin. It's not all bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightLite Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 Yep, there are quite a couple of good things that happen there. A few pictures doesn't prove anything though. I'm sure you could also find pictures of nazies playing with little children and having a good old time, but just because a few people think it's a good thing, doesn't mean that it is. A couple months ago it was discovered that a man that was screaming something about thanking America (was ALL over the news) was actually payed to say so.... A man came to the town where I lived and told the town his story about Iraq. He had just recently came back, and told us that he was assigned to give the people in Iraq food. Then he told us that he was only permitted to do so when there was news reporters around. He and the rest of his "team"(for lack of a better word) ignored these orders and gave them food even when there weren't reporters around. This showes us that some of the soldiers are doing the right thing, but some are raping women and only putting on a show for reporters. Pictures don't prove anything. Plus, you could probably find those pics all over fox once a week. Yes you do see some stuff like this on fox once in a while.. Don't you libbies know something's not right when ABC, NBC, and CBS never bring up anything good about the war, and they bash it all the time.... Then how come Bush was elected a 2nd term, and how come Fox News has a higher rating than any of the Major Three Networks combined Break out of your shell please, the guy that made this topic is trying to get you to see both sides.... - Only character in Runescape History maxed out in RSC and RS2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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