Where does this thing about them saying they were police keep coming? Anyways, with something like this, i dont think we should trust just one news type. The story is varying too much now, and we should look for a common factor in all of the news types. CH Said last night that the police didnt reviel themselves as undercover cops... So what would be the truth?

Where does this thing about them saying they were police keep coming? Anyways, with something like this, i dont think we should trust just one news type. The story is varying too much now, and we should look for a common factor in all of the news types. CH Said last night that the police didnt reviel themselves as undercover cops... So what would be the truth?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This 'story' comes from the police inquest, and eyewitness accounts. Do you genuinely think the police would persue and fire on a suspect without even revealing that they are police?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

King of OT my shiny metal 'wagon'.

i heard they were the SAS (the best arms squad in the world and yes theyre better than SWAT) becasue they blurred out their faces on BBC and couldnt reveal their names.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

whether theyre police of not, u dont run from someone with a gun do u!

i heard they were the SAS (the best arms squad in the world and yes theyre better than SWAT) becasue they blurred out their faces on BBC and couldnt reveal their names.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

whether theyre police of not, u dont run from someone with a gun do u!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Actually they were SFO, (specialist firearms officers) but they are indeed SAS trained.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And as for the whole "saying they were police" thing. Firstly it's part of the SFO handbook that you tell them your police before engaging in fire, and if they confronted him in the first place they would have said they were police otherwise he would of suspected them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And although i agree that he was a fool to run from men with guns, it's also unlikely the UNDERCOVER (hint hint) police would approach him and be walking around with guns. We don't know why he bolted, seemed suspicious but now it seems that he did so without reason.

 

Where does this thing about them saying they were police keep coming? Anyways, with something like this, i dont think we should trust just one news type. The story is varying too much now, and we should look for a common factor in all of the news types. CH Said last night that the police didnt reviel themselves as undercover cops... So what would be the truth?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This 'story' comes from the police inquest, and eyewitness accounts. Do you genuinely think the police would persue and fire on a suspect without even revealing that they are police?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

King of OT my shiny metal 'wagon'.

 

 

 

...Im gonna go back and read a bit more. I want to know when this thing started and where. If it started out of the station, how does anyone know they revealed themselvs?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I call myself that, cause from what ive seen since if joined here, is that i spend more time on OT the anyone here, even if i dont post all the time.

...Im gonna go back and read a bit more. I want to know when this thing started and where. If it started out of the station, how does anyone know they revealed themselvs?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I call myself that, cause from what ive seen since if joined here, is that i spend more time on OT the anyone here, even if i dont post all the time.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Read the article Rizla posted again. There are many many witnesses testifying that the police revealed themselves. They are highly trained operatives not just a copper with a gun.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And you are by far NOT the kind of offtopic and by far NOT the person whos most active. Ive hardly ever seen you online or active and im pretty much on all day. Ask anyone...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Immigrants use up 9% of resources and contribute 11% to the GDP (source BBC). England is a multicultural nation. If you dont like it then its YOU that shoudl leave.

And you are by far NOT the kind of offtopic and by far NOT the person whos most active. Ive hardly ever seen you online or active and im pretty much on all day. Ask anyone...

 

 

 

He's not online to reply to you. :P

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway Lionheart, ditch the sig. It makes you look like your trying to be some sort of elitest.

 

 

 

I don't see you on lots, well not as much as merc. Matt gets paid to browse tipit at work apparently.

Immigrants use up 9% of resources and contribute 11% to the GDP (source BBC). England is a multicultural nation. If you dont like it then its YOU that shoudl leave.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

those statidtics are for the "official" immigrants, not including all the ones that got lost on the system. This multi cultural thing isnt right. The immigrants completely disregard any values native to UK, and yet expect us to adapt to theirs!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And why should i leave!? My family was actually born here, in this country. They didnt come here in a van and they can actually speak English :x

 

Immigrants use up 9% of resources and contribute 11% to the GDP (source BBC). England is a multicultural nation. If you dont like it then its YOU that shoudl leave.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

those statidtics are for the "official" immigrants, not including all the ones that got lost on the system. This multi cultural thing isnt right. The immigrants completely disregard any values native to UK, and yet expect us to adapt to theirs!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And why should i leave!? My family was actually born here, in this country. They didnt come here in a van and they can actually speak English :x

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Most of these "foreigners" you talk about in your previous posts were born here and speak English as first language too

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I work for the Government, I know the statistics. We must be looking at different sets tho because the rate of immigrants both legal and illegal has been decreasing since 97

Right, removed more posts from this thread, after getting complaints about them.

 

 

 

Post anymore racist remarks and you will probably find yourself banned.

 

detonators are stored in pockets/hands. push button, boom.

 

 

 

well done to the police for getting tough on them. we're finally beginning to show we're not afraid to fight back instead of living in fear

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Surely he would've pressed it earlier then. And if the police can't de-arm the man in the time they pull him down, jump on him etc. they are bad coppers, their first and last resort was violence resulting in death.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

you know what you REALLY need to get a reality check. Suicde bomber, they already see themselves as dead, reason he was running? either 1) real;ly determined to get to his target or 2) was going for the biggest body count he could get since he couldn't reach target. besides the fact that he didnt already detonate it, he probly had a trip wire attached to the bag so if it was tampered with or taken off him BOOM so dont you DARE call those brave officers "bad coppers" the only real way to catch a suicde bomber ( and capture them alive for information and trial) is either thier asleep or otherwise completly caught off guard.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

LK1

If I was in the middle of a crowded area and some people in plain clothes came after me with any sort of weapon I would do exactly what he did. He ran towards a large number of people in hopes he would be able to escape.

If I was in the middle of a crowded area and some people in plain clothes came after me with any sort of weapon I would do exactly what he did. He ran towards a large number of people in hopes he would be able to escape.

 

 

 

Even if you knew the underground stations would have very high security at them, because there had been bombs the day before and bombs two weeks earlier?

Yes it was a tragic death for the Brazilian. But I put a lot more blame on him than the officer/s that shot him.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1. He had a padded jacket, could of been loaded with bombs inside.

 

 

 

2. He had a rucksack (Well, some dodgy looking bag), which also could been loaded with bombs.

 

 

 

3. Witnesses report him as being in a rush.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now If I was an officer, my orders would be to ELIMINATE THE THREAT OF A BOMB DETINATING!!! The officers saw this "possible threat, and acted accordingly.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I mean WTF!? you don't do or wear/carry these kinds of things in times like these. Although I do realise he was innocent, and my prayers are with his family.

...I'm willing to bet that there was at least one other person in that tube station wearing a padded jacket and a rucksack who was in a hurry. It's not as if it's rare.

 

If I was in the middle of a crowded area and some people in plain clothes came after me with any sort of weapon I would do exactly what he did. He ran towards a large number of people in hopes he would be able to escape.

 

 

 

Even if you knew the underground stations would have very high security at them, because there had been bombs the day before and bombs two weeks earlier?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That would be even better, if I was being chased and saw some armed, recognizable security officials I would make a bee-line straight for them :P

...I'm willing to bet that there was at least one other person in that tube station wearing a padded jacket and a rucksack who was in a hurry. It's not as if it's rare.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Even on a warm London day?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway the padded jacket wasn't the main suspicion, it was the fact that he came out of a house that was under surveillance, and bolted when the police tried to stop him, even though he spoke perfect english according to his cousin.

Just to confirm the VISA issue: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4725659.stm

That's right, kids. Extend your VISA now or have the British police pop a few (hmm, I'm thinking five) caps in your head.

That's right, kids. Extend your VISA now or have the British police pop a few (hmm, I'm thinking five) caps in your head.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Why don't you do us a favour and take some of your own advice smartguy?

Why don't you do us a favour and take some of your own advice smartguy?

 

 

 

Say... that's not a bad idea...

Grow up Ruzbeh, you're not impressing anyone here.

thats guy was not terroist noobies..h e was not the 1 to be killed

thats guy was not terroist noobies..h e was not the 1 to be killed

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks for your wonderfully thought out and informative post.

 

 

 

We know he wasnt a terrorist now but at the time we did not. Look at the dates that people posted you pleb! :evil: