Never Scam Anyone or This May Happen

[NobleRanger]

I read this from the Christian Fourms and I am still shocked.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.christianforums.com/t1907392 ... riend.html

[Lionheart_0]

I read this from the Christian Fourms and I am still shocked.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.christianforums.com/t1907392 ... riend.html

 

 

 

:? Has nothing to do with the scammers fault. It was the guy who made the choice to end his life. This is not unusal though these days... kids are getting to into the game and doing extream stuff if they get upseat about it, even if it isnt suicide.

[NobleRanger]

Did you check the screenshot? It looks like the scammer didnt care that he wanted to kill himself.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Evilperson]

It like killing yourself for not winning the lottery

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I mean it happens to people but you jsut have to deal with it

[jesselt]

It's not really the scammers fault... Anyone that would kill themselves over a game is mentally unstable. He would have done it over something else eventually.

[knives669]

I'm sure this person had alot more problems than a game. This ordeal was probably the last straw. That's very sad. Sure, it wasn't the scammers' fault. He's the one who decided to kill himself. But, (if the people who scammed this person know about his suicide) they'll have to live with that the rest of their lives. Hopefully, they've learned to treat people better.

[DaN]

Thats pretty pathetic.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I know of incidents were people have killed them selfs over 419 scams or even been murdered by the 419scammers themselfs but these incidents involve hundreds of thousands of dollars.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Its pretty sad that the guy killed himself over something so stupid. You cant blame the scammers for not beliving him people always claim their going to kill themselfs over the internet.

[Nadril]

Definitly had problems in real life. You realy can't blame the scammer. A lot of people, younger kids perhaps, would tell someone "i'll kill my self if you don't give me it back" on a game, since it is, just a game.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

this is a bit off topic, but I was reading through that forums a bit, and its preaty funny :lol:

[VOV]

Looks like he won't be going to heaven.

[Greatsilverwyrm]

Looks like he won't be going to heaven.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Inappropriate comment. Don't be a jerk.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I agree that the scammer is a jerk, a cyperpunk, but he shouldn't be blamed for this guy's decision to end his life. Nor should Areanet be blamed..

[____]

Sorry, but :roflbow:

 

 

 

It wasn't the scammers fault he decided to kill himself. He obviously had deeper issues.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

He never tried to help himself and from the sounds of things no one around him ever noticed something was wrong either. Chances are he would've /himself because of the next thing to go wrong in his life anways if he unstable enough to /himself over a pixels in a game.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It sucks that he died and all but laying the blame on a scammers or Arenanet is downright pathetic :ugh:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And on a side note: Trying to sue anyone over this would result in the case getting thrown out.

 

 

 

And Arenanet hands out bans depending on severity. Sounds like the scam wasn't a big enough deal for them to take action.

[Rizla]

Anyone who kills themself over a game is a complete idiot if you ask me. There are people all across the world going through terrible things and this fool kills himself because he lost some pixelated items in a game.

 

 

 

Millions of people in the world wouldn't even be able to afford the game he was playing, let alone the computer and internet connection to go with it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

No sympathy from me.

[Mercifull]

Mmmm what a sad scenario. I feel really bad for the "scammer" more than the person who took their life.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Guild Wars is only a game, its not even that great imo, and yet this person felt that because of his own stupidity in getting scammed several times he felt he needed to take his own life. This person obviously had some serious mental issues long before Guild Wars. People that kill themselves over a game sicken me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There is so much real suffering and pain going on in the world and yet this person thinks that losing a few items in an online game warrents taking his own life. He was a fool for getting scammed and a fool for committing suicide.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As I said before I feel really sad for the actual scammer in this case. He was playing the game his own way by sneakily gaining a few items at someone elses expense and because of the selfishness of the other person he now has to live with the face that his actions led to someones death. Its a horrible thought and this poor scammer has to life with people telling him he killed someone. :( He was an incredibly selfish person having no regard for anyone else including his family. Because those are the ones that will hurt the most knowing their son killed himself so tragicly over a game they probably bought for his birthday. The victims in all this are his family, the online friends and the scammer and most certainly not the person who took their live.

[Greatsilverwyrm]

"Sicken" is such a strong word, Matt. Do you really mean it? I agree that it's a silly thing to end your life over, but are you telling me your lack of sympathy goes so far as to say he sickens you?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think it's more sad than anything, and what I think is more said is that this guy obviously had some problems, and nobody helped him, or he wouldn't allow them to.

[Mercifull]

"Sicken" is such a strong word, Matt. Do you really mean it? I agree that it's a silly thing to end your life over, but are you telling me your lack of sympathy goes so far as to say he sickens you?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think it's more sad than anything, and what I think is more said is that this guy obviously had some problems, and nobody helped him, or he wouldn't allow them to.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I guess sicken is a bit stong yeah, but he was an incredibly selfish person thinking only of himself. What about all the pain his family must be going throught right now? And all because of a game that some people in the world could never even dream of being able to afford.

[rocketman089]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It'll take a few minutes to be able to see the post there, so I'm going to have to wait for an educated reply, but I think the pic warrants enough. Anyway, it's pretty obvious that he either had problems outside the game or: he was like that guy who killed himself over everquest, the game was the only thing he lived for. Either, it's a sad story to hear, but pathetic nonetheless. I don't mean to put value on his life/death, but he probably couldn't have made it real far in real life anyway with that kind of attitude.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well, I can't say it's the scammers fault, he's nothing special, there's hundreds of thousands like him, in hundreds of games. He was no different than any of them, he just scammed the wrong guy (and i'm assuming that's his last guy). I don't know if part of the blame can be put on family, but from previous posts, it seems like they failed to notice or care either is potential for suicide or obsession over the game. Oh well.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sorry, but :roflbow:

 

 

 

It wasn't the scammers fault he decided to kill himself. He obviously had deeper issues.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

He never tried to help himself and from the sounds of things no one around him ever noticed something was wrong either. Chances are he would've /himself because of the next thing to go wrong in his life anways if he unstable enough to /himself over a pixels in a game.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It sucks that he died and all but laying the blame on a scammers or Arenanet is downright pathetic :ugh:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And on a side note: Trying to sue anyone over this would result in the case getting thrown out.

 

 

 

And Arenanet hands out bans depending on severity. Sounds like the scam wasn't a big enough deal for them to take action.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Erm, is this not a direct post from the christain thread? Or did you sign up there just to post that?

[BlueLancer]

To me it seems this same person is actually "his friend", I've seen this happen at a couple of MMORPG's where some people are such idiots they will fake their suicide to get empathy from the community to catch the scammers.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Suspicious note: He said he went to hotmail and thanks to the cookies on his computer, he was logged in.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Newsflash: Cookies on hotmail expire in about 10-20 minutes, there's no way one day his friend dies and the next day he can still log into his msn and read the emails.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you've read other forums, you would not be surprised at this as it's very unlikely he really did commit suicide over this (though in very extreme cases in games such as EverQuest, a few people have done it). Some kids will just say anything to retrieve their scammed items.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't appreciate or like scammers, but even if this case was a scam, the person would need to have a lot of other problems in his life too if he would do this over some pixels on a computer screen.(though as a long time MMORPG player (12+ years) I understand the argument 'they're not just pixels, the person had to work hard for it).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nevertheless it doesn't change the fact that in the end, games are not that important. You can't win the argument life vs. video games and say video games are more important.

[Lionheart_0]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Suspicious note: He said he went to hotmail and thanks to the cookies on his computer, he was logged in.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Newsflash: Cookies on hotmail expire in about 10-20 minutes, there's no way one day his friend dies and the next day he can still log into his msn and read the emails.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Actuly i had my hotmail set so i could log into it just by pushing my bookmark button. I pushed the thing that says log me in automaticly. I had this set for like a year :?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

BTW, i think thats how i got hacked... so not a good idea any more.

[DaN]

its not unheard of for people to pull sympathy scams.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"My Friend/Brother died last week now we are stuggling afford a decent funeral, it would be A godsend if you could help us"

[NobleRanger]

It isnt a lie. I believe it because the guy isnt asking anything in return and is just using the fourms there as an oulet to express his emotions. I think that it is harsh to say he is the scammer instead. Why the person killed himself on that day is to be blamed on the scammer.

[NorthernHero]

As I said before I feel really sad for the actual scammer in this case. He was playing the game his own way by sneakily gaining a few items at someone elses expense and because of the selfishness of the other person he now has to live with the face that his actions led to someones death. Its a horrible thought and this poor scammer has to life with people telling him he killed someone. He was an incredibly selfish person having no regard for anyone else including his family. Because those are the ones that will hurt the most knowing their son killed himself so tragicly over a game they probably bought for his birthday. The victims in all this are his family, the online friends and the scammer and most certainly not the person who took their live.

 

 

 

Did you just say "poor scammer"? At least he learned lesson now. Scamming is nono. Maybe he now thoughts before does something that upsets someone else.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sad thing thought, I really hope bluelancer is right. :(

[logic-is-overrated]

It isnt a lie. I believe it because the guy isnt asking anything in return and is just using the fourms there as an oulet to express his emotions. I think that it is harsh to say he is the scammer instead. Why the person killed himself on that day is to be blamed on the scammer.

I think I agree with whoever said something like this: The guy killing himself over something so unimportant was selfish because the whole world doesn't revolve around him and his hobbies. If this is true then his family is probably destroyed by it, the friends that he had are probably destroyed by it, in general he hurt a lot of people by it. All because he thought him and his game was more important than anything else and he didn't want to take the effort to solve his problems or get help.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's really sad what happened but this guy was selfish and it's his fault he's dead. He was a victim of his own selfishness. The scammer if he knows about this is probably a kid who could care less if someone is sad by being scammed but would be emotionally destroyed to know he helped to move someone to death. Him spending the rest of his life thinking about that guilt is his own fault. He is a victim of his own selfishness. Again, its a terrible what happened but everyone involved can blame themselves.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This is based on the fact that he was probably a normal kid who couldn't handle the normal problems every kid faces which may not be true.

[____]

Or did you sign up there just to post that?

To a point.

 

 

 

And it wasn't just to post that. Least not yet anyways :P

[DaN]

 

As I said before I feel really sad for the actual scammer in this case. He was playing the game his own way by sneakily gaining a few items at someone elses expense and because of the selfishness of the other person he now has to live with the face that his actions led to someones death. Its a horrible thought and this poor scammer has to life with people telling him he killed someone. He was an incredibly selfish person having no regard for anyone else including his family. Because those are the ones that will hurt the most knowing their son killed himself so tragicly over a game they probably bought for his birthday. The victims in all this are his family, the online friends and the scammer and most certainly not the person who took their live.

 

 

 

Did you just say "poor scammer"? At least he learned lesson now. Scamming is nono. Maybe he now thoughts before does something that upsets someone else.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes poor scammer!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Its not like the game scammer is an evil person who deservs that kind of thing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Chance is the scammer will be approx 14 years old.