sliferking1 Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 ok so i plan on doing this maybey so i can get my def up because im needing it realy badly lol. so question being where are they located and what should be my setup. im currently doing about 50 trips to the chaos tunnels and killing green dragons for money. after this i should have a sufficient amount of money to buy what i need :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 Armoured Zombies are in the dungeon you find them in during Defender of Varrock. You have a choice of setups, all of which benefit from having slave ammy (e) due to the monsters being undead Option 1: Defensive Tank Relies on tanked out defence bonuses such as torags. Can be worked with either food or bunyip for healing. Top prayer choice is piety Option 2: Void Knight Wearing void knight melee gear you can hit hard, very hard. With this method you are likely to take damage too fast for a bunyip so you either want a good food supply & piety prayer OR Protect prayers Option 3: Prayer tank Wear prayer armour and use piety and protect prayers The dungeon is right by an altar so prayer pots aren't needed Games necklace to BH for banking and to clan wars for running in It's v low cost and easy to do great xp rate and decent drops. I personally recommend picking up: Oak planks (noted) Teak planks (noted) Pure Ess (noted) Runes Charms High end Herbs Addy Kite sheilds Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonalo40 Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 salve and void doenst stack.. so make a combination of option 1 and 3: full bandos is best.. if your short on money just use prosy platebody + verac legs.. you should be fine.. always pray piety and use super sets.. bunyip helps alot.. edit: get prayer 70 first lol... this will increase your xp/hr, and get an enchanted salve ammy if you dont have ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgelemmons Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 salve and void doenst stack.. so make a combination of option 1 and 3: full bandos is best.. if your short on money just use prosy platebody + verac legs.. you should be fine.. always pray piety and use super sets.. bunyip helps alot.. Bandos is a waste of money. Use Barrows; better stats and cheaper. Bunyips are basically a must, they make it so much better there. Piety helps loads, and the altar nearby is nice. Super sets... I'd use them. Thanks to Uno for the awsome sig <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sliferking1 Posted March 10, 2009 Author Share Posted March 10, 2009 ok since i cant afford bandos ill think of something. but when i get done with my trips to the green dragons how many bones should i need for 70 prayer if i use the bones i get with the final guilded alter with the burners lit? i should have about 500 bones maybey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgelemmons Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 ok since i cant afford bandos ill think of something. but when i get done with my trips to the green dragons how many bones should i need for 70 prayer if i use the bones i get with the final guilded alter with the burners lit? i should have about 500 bones maybey 2,654 Dragon Bones to 70 prayer. http://www.tip.it/runescape/?page=prayer_calc.htm This is what Tip.It is for... Thanks to Uno for the awsome sig <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 salve and void do stack as they don;t effect the same things. Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgelemmons Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 salve and void do stack as they don;t effect the same things. I can vouch for that as well. Thanks to Uno for the awsome sig <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeDaStudd Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 salve and void do stack as they don;t effect the same things. I can vouch for that as well. Thank you so much. I was looking into this not long a go as most guides use both in the same setup and couldn't find a straight answer anywhere. People where saying one boost attack/strength the other accuracy/damage which they were arguing are 2 different things so they stacked :roll: . [hide=Drops]Dragon Axe x11Berserker Ring x9Warrior Ring x8SeercullDragon MedDragon Boots x4 - all less then 30 kcGodsword Shard (bandos)Granite Maul x 3Solo only - doesn't include barrows[/hide][hide=Stats][/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 salve and void do stack as they don;t effect the same things. I can vouch for that as well. If you want further evidence. I am training defence there. I have 81 str, Using void set, defensive style, piety prayer, abyssal whip, slave ammy (e), beserker ring, d boots. I fairly often hit 30 - 32 and have hit some 33 and 34's Check tip.its max hit calc. No salve ammy but void set = 30 max hit No void set but ammy = 31 max hit Both = 34 max hit Logic dictates, therefore, the effects are stacking as I have hit both 33 and 34 on occasion and several 32's. If they don't stack my hits would cap out at 31 Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadukar123 Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 And the calculator says Salve stacks with Slayer helm. :roll: Drops: Misc: Abyssal Whip x28 , Dark Bow x5, Beserker Ring x3, Warrior ring x1 Dragon: Dragon Platelegs x2 , Dragon Plateskirt x2, Dragon Boots x38, Dragon Med Helm x4, Shield left half x3 Godwars: Godsword shard x13, Bandos Hilt x3, Bandos Chestplate x6, Bandos Tassets x4, Bandos Boots x5, Saradomin Sword x1, Zamorakian Spear x1,. Armadyl Helm x2, Armadyl chestplate x2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sliferking1 Posted March 10, 2009 Author Share Posted March 10, 2009 salve and void do stack as they don;t effect the same things. I can vouch for that as well. Thank you so much. I was looking into this not long a go as most guides use both in the same setup and couldn't find a straight answer anywhere. People where saying one boost attack/strength the other accuracy/damage which they were arguing are 2 different things so they stacked . hmm glad i could help with u finding the answer. now can we please get back to my topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llamster Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 salve and void doenst stack.. so make a combination of option 1 and 3: full bandos is best.. if your short on money just use prosy platebody + verac legs.. you should be fine.. always pray piety and use super sets.. bunyip helps alot.. Bandos is a waste of money. Use Barrows; better stats and cheaper. Tassets are junk compared to Verac's but I'd consider the chestplate to be superior to Torag/Guthan/Dharok plate. Armoured zombies barely hit anything so you really don't need the defence bonus. Besides, repair costs for plate alone eats 3k off your profit/hour. And bunyip doesn't make that much of a difference since, as I said, they are very weak. Ah, this reminds me about the noob on the Runescape forums who was upset with the quest "Cold War" because apparently his grandparents died in the war. :wall: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llamster Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 Hit quote instead of edit #-o Ah, this reminds me about the noob on the Runescape forums who was upset with the quest "Cold War" because apparently his grandparents died in the war. :wall: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sliferking1 Posted March 10, 2009 Author Share Posted March 10, 2009 Hit quote instead of edit hope u werent talking to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llamster Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 Hit quote instead of edit hope u werent talking to me Nope. I double-posted by accident. Ah, this reminds me about the noob on the Runescape forums who was upset with the quest "Cold War" because apparently his grandparents died in the war. :wall: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Lord Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 If you get 70 prayer for piety and haven't done Knight Waves yet, you should buy guthans, ~5 super restores, a super set + maybe an extra super attack potion, tuna potatoes (or manta rays), and fill the rest up with the best gear you can get. This makes it SO much easier. SWAG Mayn U wanna be like me but U can't be me cuz U ain't got ma swagga on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assume Nothing Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 salve and void doenst stack.. so make a combination of option 1 and 3: full bandos is best.. if your short on money just use prosy platebody + verac legs.. you should be fine.. always pray piety and use super sets.. bunyip helps alot.. Bandos is a waste of money. Use Barrows; better stats and cheaper. Tassets are junk compared to Verac's but I'd consider the chestplate to be superior to Torag/Guthan/Dharok plate. Armoured zombies barely hit anything so you really don't need the defence bonus. Besides, repair costs for plate alone eats 3k off your profit/hour. And bunyip doesn't make that much of a difference since, as I said, they are very weak. Bunyip DOES make a difference, a BIG difference. It makes it afkable, if you really want to pick up bones all day and cast bones to peaches, it's up to you, but I'd rather bring more pots with bunyips. Say, (I'm not sure, I used bunyips and didn't measure damage) they hit a average of 5 damage per minute, those 5 damage may look small but it piles up, fast. I have tried no bunyip pouches to armoured zombies before, even though enhanced excalibur healed me, there have been times when I nearly rol'd when there were chains of hits. And I have 80 defence in torags + other barrow armour with similar stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llamster Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 salve and void doenst stack.. so make a combination of option 1 and 3: full bandos is best.. if your short on money just use prosy platebody + verac legs.. you should be fine.. always pray piety and use super sets.. bunyip helps alot.. Bandos is a waste of money. Use Barrows; better stats and cheaper. Tassets are junk compared to Verac's but I'd consider the chestplate to be superior to Torag/Guthan/Dharok plate. Armoured zombies barely hit anything so you really don't need the defence bonus. Besides, repair costs for plate alone eats 3k off your profit/hour. And bunyip doesn't make that much of a difference since, as I said, they are very weak. Bunyip DOES make a difference, a BIG difference. It makes it afkable, if you really want to pick up bones all day and cast bones to peaches, it's up to you, but I'd rather bring more pots with bunyips. Say, (I'm not sure, I used bunyips and didn't measure damage) they hit a average of 5 damage per minute, those 5 damage may look small but it piles up, fast. I have tried no bunyip pouches to armoured zombies before, even though enhanced excalibur healed me, there have been times when I nearly rol'd when there were chains of hits. And I have 80 defence in torags + other barrow armour with similar stats. 5 damage per minute means you can camp for an hour on just 14 pineapple pizzas, without excalibur or regen or anything (with either one of those you only need a couple pieces of food to last for several hours) B2P is absolutely not worth it here; it'd be more efficient to just pray melee. Ah, this reminds me about the noob on the Runescape forums who was upset with the quest "Cold War" because apparently his grandparents died in the war. :wall: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadukar123 Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 14 Pineapple pizzas=7k gp+having to check in often. 1 Bunyip=2k gp+almost afkable. Clear choice no? Drops: Misc: Abyssal Whip x28 , Dark Bow x5, Beserker Ring x3, Warrior ring x1 Dragon: Dragon Platelegs x2 , Dragon Plateskirt x2, Dragon Boots x38, Dragon Med Helm x4, Shield left half x3 Godwars: Godsword shard x13, Bandos Hilt x3, Bandos Chestplate x6, Bandos Tassets x4, Bandos Boots x5, Saradomin Sword x1, Zamorakian Spear x1,. Armadyl Helm x2, Armadyl chestplate x2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian5kamikaze Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 salve and void doenst stack.. so make a combination of option 1 and 3: full bandos is best.. if your short on money just use prosy platebody + verac legs.. you should be fine.. always pray piety and use super sets.. bunyip helps alot.. Bandos is a waste of money. Use Barrows; better stats and cheaper. Tassets are junk compared to Verac's but I'd consider the chestplate to be superior to Torag/Guthan/Dharok plate. Armoured zombies barely hit anything so you really don't need the defence bonus. Besides, repair costs for plate alone eats 3k off your profit/hour. And bunyip doesn't make that much of a difference since, as I said, they are very weak. Bunyip DOES make a difference, a BIG difference. It makes it afkable, if you really want to pick up bones all day and cast bones to peaches, it's up to you, but I'd rather bring more pots with bunyips. Say, (I'm not sure, I used bunyips and didn't measure damage) they hit a average of 5 damage per minute, those 5 damage may look small but it piles up, fast. I have tried no bunyip pouches to armoured zombies before, even though enhanced excalibur healed me, there have been times when I nearly rol'd when there were chains of hits. And I have 80 defence in torags + other barrow armour with similar stats. 5 damage per minute means you can camp for an hour on just 14 pineapple pizzas, without excalibur or regen or anything (with either one of those you only need a couple pieces of food to last for several hours) B2P is absolutely not worth it here; it'd be more efficient to just pray melee. Bunyips heal 352 damage once they run out and they're cheaper than pizzas. Plus it only takes up one space and heals for you so you don't have to even pay much attention. Why are you trying to argue that something that costs more, requires more attention, and more inventory space is better? Quit. PM me if you play The Conduit to exchange friend codes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultimatballr Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 Bunyips heal 352 damage once they run out and they're cheaper than pizzas. Plus it only takes up one space and heals for you so you don't have to even pay much attention. Why are you trying to argue that something that costs more, requires more attention, and more inventory space is better? Because somewhere along the line he got his information mixed up. Always best to try something out yourself, instead of relying on what others tell you. I have seen alot of people at Armored Zombies without a Bunyip and they have to bank relatively quickly (every 20 minutes...) The Bunyip allows you to stay forever (barring you don't want non-stackable drops) Personally I only stay the length of one bunyip (43 minutes.. ? something close to that) and then bank to maximize the total GP earned as I didn't have to get rid of any unstackable drops and I still got 70-80k exp/hour. That's just me though. ------------------ As for the OP and the question of what set-up you should use. This is what my invent looked like (focus on the left hand picture, the right is what it looked like after the trip was over the previous trip though) [hide=Invent set-up][/hide] As for what I wore it was something like this: Nezzy Helm Prosy top Prosy legs Salve Ammy (e) Barrow gloves Dragon boots Whip + Defender Warrior ring Defence cape (untrimmed) Ill post a picture later if you want.. but right now I can't seem to get onto RS.. the start screen won't even load for me.. :x Apparently, my signature was to big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llamster Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 salve and void doenst stack.. so make a combination of option 1 and 3: full bandos is best.. if your short on money just use prosy platebody + verac legs.. you should be fine.. always pray piety and use super sets.. bunyip helps alot.. Bandos is a waste of money. Use Barrows; better stats and cheaper. Tassets are junk compared to Verac's but I'd consider the chestplate to be superior to Torag/Guthan/Dharok plate. Armoured zombies barely hit anything so you really don't need the defence bonus. Besides, repair costs for plate alone eats 3k off your profit/hour. And bunyip doesn't make that much of a difference since, as I said, they are very weak. Bunyip DOES make a difference, a BIG difference. It makes it afkable, if you really want to pick up bones all day and cast bones to peaches, it's up to you, but I'd rather bring more pots with bunyips. Say, (I'm not sure, I used bunyips and didn't measure damage) they hit a average of 5 damage per minute, those 5 damage may look small but it piles up, fast. I have tried no bunyip pouches to armoured zombies before, even though enhanced excalibur healed me, there have been times when I nearly rol'd when there were chains of hits. And I have 80 defence in torags + other barrow armour with similar stats. 5 damage per minute means you can camp for an hour on just 14 pineapple pizzas, without excalibur or regen or anything (with either one of those you only need a couple pieces of food to last for several hours) B2P is absolutely not worth it here; it'd be more efficient to just pray melee. Bunyips heal 352 damage once they run out and they're cheaper than pizzas. Plus it only takes up one space and heals for you so you don't have to even pay much attention. Why are you trying to argue that something that costs more, requires more attention, and more inventory space is better? I didn't say food was better than bunyips. I said that bunyips don't make much of a difference. Ah, this reminds me about the noob on the Runescape forums who was upset with the quest "Cold War" because apparently his grandparents died in the war. :wall: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1dhunter Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 salve and void doenst stack.. so make a combination of option 1 and 3: full bandos is best.. if your short on money just use prosy platebody + verac legs.. you should be fine.. always pray piety and use super sets.. bunyip helps alot.. Bandos is a waste of money. Use Barrows; better stats and cheaper. Tassets are junk compared to Verac's but I'd consider the chestplate to be superior to Torag/Guthan/Dharok plate. Armoured zombies barely hit anything so you really don't need the defence bonus. Besides, repair costs for plate alone eats 3k off your profit/hour. And bunyip doesn't make that much of a difference since, as I said, they are very weak. Bunyip DOES make a difference, a BIG difference. It makes it afkable, if you really want to pick up bones all day and cast bones to peaches, it's up to you, but I'd rather bring more pots with bunyips. Say, (I'm not sure, I used bunyips and didn't measure damage) they hit a average of 5 damage per minute, those 5 damage may look small but it piles up, fast. I have tried no bunyip pouches to armoured zombies before, even though enhanced excalibur healed me, there have been times when I nearly rol'd when there were chains of hits. And I have 80 defence in torags + other barrow armour with similar stats. 5 damage per minute means you can camp for an hour on just 14 pineapple pizzas, without excalibur or regen or anything (with either one of those you only need a couple pieces of food to last for several hours) B2P is absolutely not worth it here; it'd be more efficient to just pray melee. Bunyips heal 352 damage once they run out and they're cheaper than pizzas. Plus it only takes up one space and heals for you so you don't have to even pay much attention. Why are you trying to argue that something that costs more, requires more attention, and more inventory space is better? I didn't say food was better than bunyips. I said that bunyips don't make much of a difference. and your the one who would know it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconic Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 [hide=How to Properly Quote a Large Item]salve and void doenst stack.. so make a combination of option 1 and 3: full bandos is best.. if your short on money just use prosy platebody + verac legs.. you should be fine.. always pray piety and use super sets.. bunyip helps alot.. Bandos is a waste of money. Use Barrows; better stats and cheaper. Tassets are junk compared to Verac's but I'd consider the chestplate to be superior to Torag/Guthan/Dharok plate. Armoured zombies barely hit anything so you really don't need the defence bonus. Besides, repair costs for plate alone eats 3k off your profit/hour. And bunyip doesn't make that much of a difference since, as I said, they are very weak. Bunyip DOES make a difference, a BIG difference. It makes it afkable, if you really want to pick up bones all day and cast bones to peaches, it's up to you, but I'd rather bring more pots with bunyips. Say, (I'm not sure, I used bunyips and didn't measure damage) they hit a average of 5 damage per minute, those 5 damage may look small but it piles up, fast. I have tried no bunyip pouches to armoured zombies before, even though enhanced excalibur healed me, there have been times when I nearly rol'd when there were chains of hits. And I have 80 defence in torags + other barrow armour with similar stats. 5 damage per minute means you can camp for an hour on just 14 pineapple pizzas, without excalibur or regen or anything (with either one of those you only need a couple pieces of food to last for several hours) B2P is absolutely not worth it here; it'd be more efficient to just pray melee. Bunyips heal 352 damage once they run out and they're cheaper than pizzas. Plus it only takes up one space and heals for you so you don't have to even pay much attention. Why are you trying to argue that something that costs more, requires more attention, and more inventory space is better?[/hide] I didn't say food was better than bunyips. I said that bunyips don't make much of a difference. Well then pineapple pizzas don't make much of a difference :roll: When you go feather dragon god, you never go back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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