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The double standards of drug use

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Weed is fun, only bad thing about it is that it [bleep]es your short term memory, but if you'd stop smoking it, it'll come back.

 

So I see no reason not to do it.

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I don't see an argument for cannabis helping anyone, that's why it is not given out by doctors and not used as medicine.

 

Do some research. There are many arguments for cannabis as a legitimate medicine.

 

 

 

[hide=2002 Review of Literature]HIERARCHY OF THERAPEUTIC EFFECTS

 

 

 

To do justice to the scientific evidence with regard to different indications, a hierarchy of therapeutic effects can be devised.

 

 

 

In this overview no distinction will be made between isolated THC (dronabinol) and natural cannabis products. Indications for THC will be regarded as indications for cannabis and vice versa.

 

 

 

1. Established effect: Nausea and vomiting, anorexia, and weight loss.

 

 

 

2. Relatively well-confirmed effect: spasticity, painful conditions, especially neurogenic pain, movement disorders, asthma, glaucoma.

 

 

 

3. Less confirmed effect: allergies, inflammation, infection, epilepsy, depression, bipolar disorders, anxiety disorder, dependency and withdrawal.

 

 

 

4. Basic research stage: autoimmune disease, cancer, neuroprotection, fever, disorders of blood pressure.[/hide]

 

Source: http://www.medboardwatch.com/wb/pages/t ... ffects.php

 

 

 

More recent literature:

 

Alzheimer's Disease

 

Multiple Sclerosis

 

Tourette's Syndrome

 

Brain Tumours

 

 

 

Further reading:

 

http://www.norml.org//index.cfm?Group_ID=7002

 

http://www.canorml.org/prop/MMJIndications.htm

 

 

 

Marijuana is illegal because if it was legal, the selling of it would just screw it all up.

 

In what way?

 

 

 

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Point still stands that regardless of personal justification, marijuana exacerbates psychosis that may not have ever of surfaced in that person's life. And many people aren't educated of it either and some would have preferred not to take the risk if they knew about it. Especially those who now can't live normal lives and it now affects their family too.

 

As you noted, many people who have psychosis self-medicate with cannabis. This does not necessarily mean that cannabis must have been the sole or primary cause of their psychosis, however. Generally, psychosis is due to a collection of factors rather than a single one. Stress, family problems, lack of sleep, caffeine and other drug use, etc. can all exacerbate psychosis.

 

 

 

Many people, perhaps had they been better educated, would have preferred not to, say, abuse caffeine -- or alcohol -- had they known it would later trigger psychosis. This is true for any activity that poses a significant risk to the individual's life, whether it be drug use or extreme sports.

 

 

 

Furthermore, simply because a drug is "more available" does not mean that its use will increase, as my earlier source points out. In fact, rates of use often decline after the decriminalization/legalization of cannabis. If cannabis does indeed increase the rate of psychosis significantly, then decriminalization/legalization very well may help curb this.

So the point still stands - the state/majority have no justification to tell you what you can and cannot do to your own body.

 

 

 

Point still stands that regardless of personal justification, marijuana exacerbates psychosis that may not have ever of surfaced in that person's life. And many people aren't educated of it either and some would have preferred not to take the risk if they knew about it. Especially those who now can't live normal lives and it now affects their family too.

 

 

 

Wait so..

 

 

 

Because there is a risk of psychosis, that changes anything how..?

 

 

 

If I choose to do weed, to myself, there is no justification for the state/majority to tell me that I can't. None. At all.

 

 

 

I own my body. I did not consent to the government having control of my body, ever. The state telling you what you can and cannot do to yourself is tyranny.

 

 

 

Even if it "affects" my family in some mental way, how am I imposing on their freedoms?

 

 

 

It is not the role of government to be able to say these things. People just consider it normal because it has been like this all their lives yet to me it seems ridiculous the people think the government could or should have this much power. And look what happens when you start giving your government too much power - you get ridiculous ideas like nationwide censors under the guise of "stopping child porn" when in actuality most child porn is sent encrypted and/or through IRC channels etc. Isn't your government also mad on banning computer games that they deem "too violent" or something like that, even for adults?

Hey.

I don't see an argument for cannabis helping anyone, that's why it is not given out by doctors and not used as medicine.

 

Do some research. There are many arguments for cannabis as a legitimate medicine.

 

 

 

 

 

 

and what about the long-term psychological impacts?

 

To be a legitimate medicine it should do more good than harm, it should also be the best solution avalible which it isn't there are alternatives to cannabis.

~Dan64Au

Since 27 Aug 2002

So far the only side effect of weed I see is my short term memory. It gets rid of my head aches, relaxes me and helps me get my moneys worth at the Chinese Buffet.

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Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else.

My friends get high, then study. then get high before exams. They say it makes them remember what they studied when they were high.

and what about the long-term psychological impacts? To be a legitimate medicine it should do more good than harm, it should also be the best solution avalible which it isn't there are alternatives to cannabis.

 

The vast majority of patients will not react negatively to low doses of the drug. This is true for most medicines on the market today. It is unrealistic to imagine a single medicine as the ideal treatment for every patient.

 

 

 

In many cases, medical marijuana can replace the potentially more dangerous opiates and antidepressants. Of course, that is not to say that cannabis will become some sort of end-all treatment.

 

 

 

Although more research is necessary to determine exactly who is at risk -- and to better understand drug's mechanism of action -- cannabis has long been recognized as a "legitimate medicine" in America.[1]

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So far the only side effect of weed I see is my short term memory. It gets rid of my head aches, relaxes me and helps me get my moneys worth at the Chinese Buffet.

 

 

 

I never saw the munchies as a good thing. Sometimes it is, but when you barely have any food around the house it can be a real nightmare.

So far the only side effect of weed I see is my short term memory. It gets rid of my head aches, relaxes me and helps me get my moneys worth at the Chinese Buffet.

 

 

 

I never saw the munchies as a good thing. Sometimes it is, but when you barely have any food around the house it can be a real nightmare.

 

Just do it before you go to a buffet/ at someones elses house. :lol:

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#1 Wongtong stalker.

Im looking for some No Limit soldiers!

Having the munchies and having no food is THE worst thing in the entire world. I have no extra money to buy food for after the University cafeteria closes, so I am completely screwed.

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"He could climb to it, if he climbed alone, and once there he could suck on the pap of life, gulp down the incomparable milk of wonder."

So far the only side effect of weed I see is my short term memory. It gets rid of my head aches, relaxes me and helps me get my moneys worth at the Chinese Buffet.

 

 

 

I never saw the munchies as a good thing. Sometimes it is, but when you barely have any food around the house it can be a real nightmare.

 

Just do it before you go to a buffet/ at someones elses house. :lol:

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, I've no joke eaten at least 300 dollars worth of food while being high at freinds's houses.

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Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else.

Aside from the commonly mentioned medical benefits, there are so many others. For example, a week ago, one of my good friends broke up with his girlfriend. He was really depressed over this, and didn't know what to do. So instead of being upset and depressed the entire day, and wasting half the weekend, he smoked enough to get high and forgot all about how depressed he was. When the high wore off, he was still in a good mood, and was able to do his homework. If he hadn't smoked, I'm sure there is no way he would have finished his work. On top of that, weed will get rid of your stomach ache if you're sick and can get rid of your headache if you have one. And the best part is if there is nothing wrong, you can get high just for the hell of it and have a great time.

 

 

 

Can somebody please link me a study done on how driving while high can be dangerous, or how an increase in motor vehicle fatalities is linked to driving while high? I can't seem to find any.

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Can somebody please link me a study done on how driving while high can be dangerous, or how an increase in motor vehicle fatalities is linked to driving while high? I can't seem to find any.

 

 

 

This is all I can find.

Can somebody please link me a study done on how driving while high can be dangerous, or how an increase in motor vehicle fatalities is linked to driving while high? I can't seem to find any.

 

 

 

This is all I can find.

 

Anyone can manipulate statistics for their cause, so a graph really won't help show it. For example, did you know that the number of pirates is directly related to global warming?

 

 

 

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People also freely ignore evidence that's right in front of them, happens all the time.

~Dan64Au

Since 27 Aug 2002

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Anyone can manipulate statistics for their cause, so a graph really won't help show it. For example, did you know that the number of pirates is directly related to global warming?

 

 

 

Then what else are we supposed to go by?

Has anyone ever died from smoking marijuana? No.

 

 

 

=]

How does a profession differ from an occupation?

Anyone can manipulate statistics for their cause, so a graph really won't help show it. For example, did you know that the number of pirates is directly related to global warming?

 

 

 

Then what else are we supposed to go by?

 

There's no use in proving anything. Others will defend their stance without evidence that it does no harm. Then, when you bring up evidence that it does, they'll say to take it with a grain of salt. If there's anything I learned about the Medical Marijuana topic, that was it.

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Has anyone ever died from smoking marijuana? No.

 

 

 

=]

 

 

 

Has anyone ever suffered serious mental illness from smoking marijuana? Yes, I know two of them.

~Dan64Au

Since 27 Aug 2002

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I can acknowledge that marijuana has its detrimental effects, as does nearly everything else in the world. I think it's up to the individual to weigh the pros and cons. There might be a small chance of getting a mental illness from smoking, but there's also a small chance of getting into a car accident while driving. In my eyes, I think it's more favorable to smoke and drive (not at the same time of course) than to give these two things up. If the risk were much greater, like along the same lines as the risk of crocodile hunting, then that would be reason enough for me not to do it.

I can acknowledge that marijuana has its detrimental effects, as does nearly everything else in the world. I think it's up to the individual to way the pros and cons.

 

Which is where the chowderheads who ruin everything for the rest of us come in. If it weren't for them abusing their meds, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

 

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Has anyone ever suffered serious mental illness from smoking marijuana? Yes, I know two of them.

 

People can trigger/exacerbate their underlying mental illness from a variety substances, be it antidepressants or alcohol. The fact that a substance -- or for that matter even a state of mind (stress, fatigue) -- can trigger/exacerbate an underlying mental illness among a minority of people does mean we ought to approach it with caution, and perhaps even avoid it when we suspect we may be at higher risk. It does not, however, mean we ought to view it as a taboo that must be prohibited/discouraged among the general population.

 

 

 

Can somebody please link me a study done on how driving while high can be dangerous, or how an increase in motor vehicle fatalities is linked to driving while high? I can't seem to find any.

 

There are many.

 

Cannabis and Driving: A Scientific and Rational Review

 

 

 

There's no use in proving anything. Others will defend their stance without evidence that it does no harm. Then, when you bring up evidence that it does, they'll say to take it with a grain of salt. If there's anything I learned about the Medical Marijuana topic, that was it.

 

People ignore the evidence on both sides of the debate. This is nothing new.

Has anyone ever died from smoking marijuana? No.

 

 

 

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maybe not in the direct sense, but Im sure a few car accidents caused by the smoking of marijuana have killed people. Noone has ever died from the pulling of a gun trigger, but what the trigger caused has killed them etc.

 

 

 

Such a good waste of tax money we cause by keeping this illegal. Stuff that is truly destructive to your body should remain illegal but marijuana is on the same "level" of harmfulness as alcohol and cigarretes which are both legal, and marijuana has been shown to have various useful purposes which cigarretes dont(removing pain)

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Orthodoxy is unconciousness

the only ones who should kill are those who are prepared to be killed.

Has anyone ever died from smoking marijuana? No.

 

 

 

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maybe not in the direct sense, but Im sure a few car accidents caused by the smoking of marijuana have killed people. Noone has ever died from the pulling of a gun trigger, but what the trigger caused has killed them etc.

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://paranoia.lycaeum.org/marijuana/f ... html#myth6

 

 

 

"blood samples from 1882 drivers killed in car, truck and motorcycle accidents in seven states during 1990-91.(5) Alcohol was found in 51.5% of specimens, as against 17.8% for all other drugs combined. Marijuana, the second most common drug, appeared in just 6.7%. Two-thirds of the marijuana-using drivers also had alcohol. The report concluded that alcohol was by far the dominant drug-related problem in accidents."

 

 

 

Not to mention there's very limited evidence to suggest Marijuana even has any significant effect on driving capability.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Has anyone ever died from smoking marijuana? No.

 

 

 

=]

 

 

 

Has anyone ever suffered serious mental illness from smoking marijuana? Yes, I know two of them.

 

 

 

My guess is your friends were stupid pre-Marijuana. May I ask what serious mental illness you're referring to?

 

 

 

And of course what you meant to say was that excessive marijuana smoking could alter someone's brain chemistry. If I lit up a joint right now, would I go schizophrenic? No, I wouldn't.

How does a profession differ from an occupation?

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