Shiva Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 Ok..I am against flaming..but in this case I must. Shiva..from what I seen so far from your posts..your an *hole..I'm sorry. THE GUY SAID HE HIT A 25 EVEN THOUGH HIS VICTIM HAD PROTECT FROM MELEE ON...your response...."That proves nothing, you could have hit those even if he wasn't praying."..son..*. Of course he could hit those if he wasn't praying..are you sure you even read his post right? But anyway..the point is that he hit a 25 even though a guy had protect from melee... Sorry RaScape, you've got your facts wrong, and so do the others who've held up this argument against me. Read: However, in the wilderness and the dueling arena, the protection prayers work differently. Instead of 100% protection, they protect you 50%, while raising the amount of times you block your opponent's attack. They are a great advantage, and can save your life in tight spots. Protection prayers do NOT cut the damage your opponent can inflict upon you by half. On the contrary, they cut the chance of your opponent hitting you. Someone with 99 strength and Full dharok can hit 80s on you even if you have Protection from Melee. The fact that n64jive and xreemox have seen high hits with Verac's set is irrelevant. Until proven otherwise by Jagex, I am going to keep claiming (and rightly) that Verac does not hit through Prayer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n64jive Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 they protect you 50%, while raising the amount of times you block your opponent's attack they protect u 50 percent meaning half, while , meaning and also, raising the ammount of times u block ur opponents attack. u can really notice this on f2p, i will at max hit 10 and hit a bunch of zero's. prayer does both, it makes u hit less often, and less damage. don't read to far into what jagex says all the time, sometimes the game differ's a bit in what they say. also send a querry to jagex, in fact send it 5 times, u'll get a different response every time. why instead of always listening to jagex, listen to the people that have tried this out know how it works like the back of their hand. i bet that 80%+ of people who play will agree on what i say from expeirences they have had. sry i hate to prove u wrong, but u are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaScape Posted August 8, 2005 Author Share Posted August 8, 2005 way to get off topic.... this guy is obviously a prayer noob and chances are if he is that a telletubbie to... i like the one with the triangle above his head.... i bet he doesnt skull either so he ends up keeping his verac Hmm...if you were talking about me, Just because i made a idea about this, doesn't make me a prayer noob and teletubbie=/...I never even tried this even though I have full Verac. Face it, your lame. Don't call someone a prayer noob or a teletubbie when you know you do the same thing in the wild just to save your self. Your ignorant-_- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flava_sava78 Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 way to get off topic.... this guy is obviously a prayer noob and chances are if he is that a telletubbie to... i like the one with the triangle above his head.... i bet he doesnt skull either so he ends up keeping his verac[/img] Hmm...if you were talking about me, Just because i made a idea about this, doesn't make me a prayer noob and teletubbie=/...I never even tried this even though I have full Verac. Face it, your lame. Don't call someone a prayer noob or a teletubbie when you know you do the same thing in the wild just to save your self. Your ignorant-_- dont pk much and when i do i dont bring prayer pots i bring food cause im no prayer noob....your ignorant you thought since there was an earth rune instead of fire rune it would through me off... Luring master. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaScape Posted August 8, 2005 Author Share Posted August 8, 2005 dont pk much and when i do i dont bring prayer pots i bring food cause im no prayer noob....your ignorant you thought since there was an earth rune instead of fire rune it would through me off... I still don't believe that you don't use prayer in the wilderness...the rune comment...can you please make sense?lol what makes me so ignorant?:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magekillr Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 come to 43 wild...lets see how full verac deals with ancient magicks when ur frozen :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0_zeke_0 Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 melee protect....it's people like you who ruin pking. This and about 1000 other things.... R.I.P - The_Old_Nite You will be missed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoe2002 Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 come to 43 wild...lets see how full verac deals with ancient magicks when ur frozen :lol: i was gonna say the same rofl. Most ppl pk in teams now. Verac is a waste castle pking and deep wildy ur have a team of 99 str w/ whips or ancient mages. Ur get owned easily. Plus you have more to lose than them. It comes down to they kill u once, they get like 8mil. You have to kill them 40 times to make that back. Statistically ur lose alot of gp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xpx Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 How many times must I point this out? Set Effect: Defiler Melee attacks have a chance to ignore armour Verac does NOT hit through Prayer. Verac DOES hit 35s on melee prayer....dont say it doesnt unless you have tested it....( i always pk in verac when pking 8) ) First to 99 Farming on 27. September, 2005.First to 3766 Port Score on 20. March, 2014.First to 4664 Port Score on 2. March, 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strope Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 Shiva, time to go out and pk, not to tell what this and that does from manual to people who pk daily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkChao Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 Verac's is terrible against other players outside of duel arena, and it's that simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenPixels Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 I only read a few posts, but to me it seemed as if it was spoken by someone who has never actually tried PKing in it. Sure, its pretty good, but particuarly if you are low level, you woudnt want to be out in the wildy in it. A decent mager or ranger could own you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaScape Posted August 8, 2005 Author Share Posted August 8, 2005 I only read a few posts, but to me it seemed as if it was spoken by someone who has never actually tried PKing in it. Sure, its pretty good, but particuarly if you are low level, you woudnt want to be out in the wildy in it. A decent mager or ranger could own you. You are correct on that I never pkd with Full Verac..lol i'm rich, but not rich enough to be reckless with items like that:(. The scenario I talked about was a melee vs melee...not magic or range. Getting owned in the wild by magic in the wilderness is self explanitory. Verac does own rangers though if you use protect from range(someone call me a prayer noob again even though this is just an example=\...) and you will own them since they can't use entangle or ice spells (hopefully) unless they are a hybrid pker..in which they use more than one style of pking. Those types of pkers always own..until teamed on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blkpure4eva Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 im not too sure about the whole hitting through prayer thing :? i aint tried pkin in it yet , but i have hit 32 through kq second form (doesnt mean much i hit it 34 though prayer with whip :shock: ) but ya i always thought prayer made you hit 50% less damage :roll: should try sort this out :D , any 1 have pics of it hittin 30+ through prayer? :D 99\99 range99\99 mage101\104 cb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scougre Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 then protect prayers work like this: they boost the melee def parts of you and so verac can still hit 27-30 on someone, cause protect prayer is nothing more then a extra armour,seems to most logic explaination to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenPixels Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 I only read a few posts, but to me it seemed as if it was spoken by someone who has never actually tried PKing in it. Sure, its pretty good, but particuarly if you are low level, you woudnt want to be out in the wildy in it. A decent mager or ranger could own you. You are correct on that I never pkd with Full Verac..lol i'm rich, but not rich enough to be reckless with items like that:(. The scenario I talked about was a melee vs melee...not magic or range. Getting owned in the wild by magic in the wilderness is self explanitory. Verac does own rangers though if you use protect from range(someone call me a prayer noob again even though this is just an example=\...) and you will own them since they can't use entangle or ice spells (hopefully) unless they are a hybrid pker..in which they use more than one style of pking. Those types of pkers always own..until teamed on. Well, i hate to tell you... but a big majority of PKers at mage bank or any other place worth pking use more than 1 method of pking. So verac isn't a great option unless you can afford to loose it or you are with a big team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xpx Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 come to 43 wild...lets see how full verac deals with ancient magicks when ur frozen :lol: K, but dont run and tele when you see something flying towards you 8) First to 99 Farming on 27. September, 2005.First to 3766 Port Score on 20. March, 2014.First to 4664 Port Score on 2. March, 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blkpure4eva Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 come to 43 wild...lets see how full verac deals with ancient magicks when ur frozen :lol: K, but dont run and tele when you see something flying towards you 8) :lol: +1 8) on topic: what is the best mage def bonus possible with verac set effect still working? must be able to get +30?ish , i noticed the restrictions on verac wernt bad eaither , about -21 mage with full set :D semi on topic: w00t! just got another brasard from barrows!! :D 99\99 range99\99 mage101\104 cb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scougre Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 i think best mage bonus with set is mage boots mystic gloves glory and god cape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swordwiz Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 I think black vams would give better protection than mystic. Swordwiz2000 - 110 Combat88 Ranged - 95 Magic - 92 HP - 99 FletchingBarrows Log (300+ Trips)[url=http://forum.tip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z3u5 Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 prayer noob. Agree!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeTaLRoCk Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 How many times must I point this out? Set Effect: Defiler Melee attacks have a chance to ignore armour Verac does NOT hit through Prayer. It does, me and friends use it for KQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magekillr Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 come to 43 wild...lets see how full verac deals with ancient magicks when ur frozen :lol: K, but dont run and tele when you see something flying towards you 8) im combat 55...u cant attack me :P besides..shuldnt u b farming and not pking? 8) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runeaholics Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 8i sitck to stkaing wiht my set... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killhannah Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 i went pking with it, does decent if you don't tb the person, if you can tb the person it does great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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