Jaysun Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 I've been putting off this homework until the end of spring break, and now I totally forgot how to do it. If anyone here knows how to do this problem, it'd be immensely appreciated if you could show me the steps to solve it. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giordano Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 I don't see a graph. Therefore, there is no area. The answer is zero. "The cry of the poor is not always just, but if you never hear it you'll never know what justice is." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killerbeer0 Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 I don't see a graph. Therefore, there is no area. The answer is zero. The graph isn't illustrated. It specifies an equation to be graphed and used, just doesn't graph it for you. OH S***! He/she/it is back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysun Posted March 30, 2009 Author Share Posted March 30, 2009 Well, there isn't a picture of the graph, but x^2 + 2 would be an upwards pointing parabola with an x-intercept at y = 2. Edit: killerbeer0 beat me to it. Thanks. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastortoise Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 In order to make room for genetics and biology, I had to push Calculus into the dark corner of my brain. Honestly, I have no idea how to do #1 or what a limit process is, but I can easily do #2 for you (the answer should be 12) by doing the quick i-already-passed-cal2-method. Sorry for the useless post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andylax38 Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Part1: Well it's been a while since I've done a problem like this but I believe the answer is zero. Your taking the limit as n is approaching infinity and since in the problem n is in the denominator of 2/n as n goes to infinity 2/n gets very small and can be said that it goes to zero. If you assume that part of the problem goes to zero the then zero times any number = 0 so the whole thing = 0. Anyway I think thats right but you might want to check with someone else. Part2: It's just a simple integral, take the integral of x^2 + 2 from x=1 to x=3 which is x^3/3 + 2x from x=1 to x=3. Then you have (3^3/3 + 2(3)) - (1/3 + 2) = 15 - 7/3 = 12 and 2/3. Hope that helps. ~>~Check Out My Bursting Guide~<~Current goals - 99 Slayer, 99 Summoning, 85 DungeoneeringAchieved goals - Quest Cape, 99 Strength, 85 Slayer, 99 Range, 88 Summoning, 90 Slayer, 99 Magic, 99 Farming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_love_burritos Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 What's your limitation on #1, for when n is mod 1 ? Of course your asymptote will be on 1 and -1 on both axis so n =/= 0. Can you make the diagram slightly neater ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deiophobus Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Why do you have to use sigma notation? It would be easier if you used an integral. Take the integral of x^2+2, with your upper and lower limits at 1 and 3, respectively. The integral of that is (x^3)/3+2x, and using F(B)-F(a), you would get 38/3. I forget how to do sigma notation though, so maybe this isn't any help. edit: I should read the thread better, I didn't realize someone already posted this method. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utopianflame Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Well I will show you how to do the first one, its simple enough although I wont do any of the required convergence tests as judging by the level you appear to be at you wont have been taught them and thus wont be expected to use them. I'm not going to coment on the second one as I will almost certainly vastly over complicate what you are being asked to do (as i'm not quite certain which limit process your there are no stupid questions just way too many inquisitive idiots balance is scary to people who like things easy for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyingjj Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Well I will show you how to do the first one, its simple enough although I wont do any of the required convergence tests as judging by the level you appear to be at you wont have been taught them and thus wont be expected to use them. image I'm not going to coment on the second one as I will almost certainly vastly over complicate what you are being asked to do (as i'm not quite certain which limit process your teacher expects you to use.) I think there is an error in your math. When you move the 4/2n^2 to the outside of the sigma notation, you dropped the 2 in the denominator, using 4/n^2 rather than 2/n^2 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utopianflame Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Well I will show you how to do the first one, its simple enough although I wont do any of the required convergence tests as judging by the level you appear to be at you wont have been taught them and thus wont be expected to use them. image I'm not going to coment on the second one as I will almost certainly vastly over complicate what you are being asked to do (as i'm not quite certain which limit process your teacher expects you to use.) I think there is an error in your math. When you move the 4/2n^2 to the outside of the sigma notation, you dropped the 2 in the denominator, using 4/n^2 rather than 2/n^2 . Well spotted but just a typo, there shouldnt be a two in the denominator in the first place, I will fix it in a moment. And fixed one typo that got copy-pasted. there are no stupid questions just way too many inquisitive idiots balance is scary to people who like things easy for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysun Posted March 30, 2009 Author Share Posted March 30, 2009 Darn, I should have asked for help sooner. I had to turn my assignment in this morning, so I missed the last few couple posts. Thanks to everyone for their assistance in this thread. We haven't gone over the assignment due to having a substitute teacher today, but I really liked Utopianflame's clearly explained problem solving. I'll use it as a guideline for the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dongleberry Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Well I will show you how to do the first one, its simple enough although I wont do any of the required convergence tests as judging by the level you appear to be at you wont have been taught them and thus wont be expected to use them. I'm not going to coment on the second one as I will almost certainly vastly over complicate what you are being asked to do (as i'm not quite certain which limit process your It appears they just what another sum notation where i=1 and n goes to 3 for the equation given. I don't remember exactly how it'd be worked out, and I'd just integrate it for a more accurate result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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