PerfectChaos Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 --Topic-- Fighting Elvarg Multipule Times --Drops-- Gold- 100-1,000 (100% chance) Big Bones X 4 (100% chance, unnoted) Bones X 3 (100% chance, unnoted) Rune Scimitar (1% chance, unnoted) Rune Chainbody (1% chance, unnoted) Rune Sword (1% chance, unnoted) Rune Longsword (1% chance, unnoted) Adamant Platebody (10% chance, unnoted) Antidragon Shield (70% chance, unnoted) SwordFish-5 (20% chance, noted) Lobster-3 (30% chance, unnoted) Lobster-10 (15% chance, noted) Green d'hide body ( 5% chance, unnoted) Green d'hide legs (10% chance, unnoted) Rune PlateBody (1% chance, unnoted) Runite Ore-1 (3% chance, noted) Elvarg's Head (100% chance*) Adament Arrows-100 (2% chance) Mithril Arrows-300 (5% chance) Adament Longsword (7% chance, unnoted) Adament Scimitar (7% chance, unnoted) Adament 2-Handed Sword (3%, unnoted) --Combat-- Multi-Way Elvarg's Level- 120 Elvarg's HP- 180 Elvarg's Melee Attack (Melee, Elvarg would bite or slash)- Max Hit 20 Elvarg's Gust Attack (Ranged, Elvarg would flap its wing to create a bust of wind)- Max Hit 22 Elvarg's Dragon Breath Attack(Magic)- Hits All Players, 40 Max Damage without Anti-Dragon Shield, 18 with Anti- Dragon Shield Once Elvarg reachs 50% HP, It's Melee Max hit rises to 26, and it uses its dragon breath more often. --Story-- A new quest called "Elvarg's Revenge" (Credit for the quest name goes to Sonic3190) [hide=]Note 1: you must have completed Dragon Slayer to begin this quest. Your player returns to the champions guild. Guildmaster: Ah, *player name*, how goes your adventure? Player: Rather good. Guildmaster: Slain any more dragons? Player: No, not re- A Messenger bursts though the door. Messenger: Gulidmaster, Gulidmaster! I have terrible news! Guildmaster: And what would this tirable news be? Messenger: Karamja has been attacked by Elvarg! Player: Impossible! I slayed that dragon. Guildmaster: That is true, but... Guildmaster: Dragons can not be truly slayed, not forever. Player: Huh? Guildmaster: Beasts of such power can actually resurrect themselves. Player: Unbelievable! Note 2 I'm Stumped on how to turn this into a quest from here. help please?[/hide]--Author 's Notes-- *If you don't have a head or "Elvarg's Dragon Helmet" (see below), the chance of Elvarg droping His/Her/Its head is 100%. If you DO have a head or "Elvarg's Dragon Helmet", the chance is 0%. You can take Elvarg's head to Oziach in Edgeville along with a Runite Full helm and 50K to have him create "Elvarg's Dragon Helmet" which would have better stats than a Runite Full Helmet. (+3 to all attack and defence stats, +2 str, +1 ranged str and prayer.) The head may also be mounted in Your POH. (Credit for the Helmet and mount ideas goes to Sworddude198) Elvarg is meant to be a F2P Boss. Please post what you think needs to be Added/Removed/Changed and if you Support/Disaprove. Total Supporters - 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Gabe Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 A bit too strong hits for a boss. Three months banishment to 9gag is something i would never wish upon anybody, not even my worst enemy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assume Nothing Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 Support. F2P lacks a boss, but it might affect the P2P world, I mean, in p2p it would drop dragon bones... and hides... it's only logical to do so, and if that's going to happen, 99 prayer is only going to be easier and green dhide will be the new junk, usable junk but it'll be so low (if not already) that it'll hit the price floors of the GE. So yeah, figure a solution to that and it'll be a awesome idea. Unless JaGex decides to make Dragon(hide) capes. That could be a whole new topic alone.... imagine the potential! I do think there should be a wider range of drops, the drops would be from the people that Elvarg has slayed, the general gear lost against him. Such as - Antidragon Shield, Rune Scimitar, Rune Chainbody, Adamant Platebody, Rune Long, Lobster, Tuna, Salmon.... oh and the list goes on. To kinggabe - It's meant to be a boss, the hits are fine imo. 2 of the best p2p food = 44hps, p2p bosses are more than capable of dealing that damage. 2 of the best f2p food (2 rounds of healing, no pizza) = 28hps, that's higher than the boss' max. So yeah... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiriyama Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 If I am still correct, then no monster ever drops more than 3,000 Gold. Secondly, what purpose would Elvarg's head serve? Denizen of Darkness| PSN= sworddude198 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerfectChaos Posted May 20, 2009 Author Share Posted May 20, 2009 -kinggabe, like dzihouchan said, The hits are fine. ;) -dzihouchan, In P2P Elvarg would drop Dragon bones & green d'hide, but in F2P Prayer is still going to be hard, (5 Hill Giants Would give more 1.5 more Prayer exp. Now tell me witch would harder to solo? :) ) As for green d'hide, Maybe. As for other drops, I'll edit the first post later. : -Sworddude198, Elvarg's head = Trophy for defeating the strongest F2P Monster. And you're right, the gold is too much. But hey, I came up with this in 30 Seconds. It's not sopposed to be perfect. :? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Gabe Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 If I am still correct, then no monster ever drops more than 3,000 Gold. Secondly, what purpose would Elvarg's head serve? All the gwd bosses + tds do. Three months banishment to 9gag is something i would never wish upon anybody, not even my worst enemy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiriyama Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 If I am still correct, then no monster ever drops more than 3,000 Gold. Secondly, what purpose would Elvarg's head serve? All the gwd bosses + tds do. Well, its been awhile for me, but my point remains, 10k is too much for this monster. You still haven't explained what purpose the head would serve other than being a trophy. I mean, its pointless if other users cannot see it. Suppose you could take it to the guy who sells Rune Platebodys along with a Runite Full helm and have him create "Elvarg's Dragon Helmet" which would have slightly higher stats than a Runite Full Helmet with a +2 Str Bonus. Denizen of Darkness| PSN= sworddude198 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheapMark Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Support. This would be a great addition so long as it isn't 'campable' in f2p (which by the looks of it, it won't be), and also if it doesn't crowd up the lessers in the karamja dungeon... Cheap Mark - Going for 1050 Total Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerfectChaos Posted May 20, 2009 Author Share Posted May 20, 2009 In respone to Sworddude198, Well, its been awhile for me, but my point remains, 10k is too much for this monster. I already changed Elvarg's gold drop to a max of 1,000. You still haven't explained what purpose the head would serve other than being a trophy. I mean, its pointless if other users cannot see it. Suppose you could take it to the guy who sells Rune Platebodys along with a Runite Full helm and have him create "Elvarg's Dragon Helmet" which would have slightly higher stats than a Runite Full Helmet with a +2 Str Bonus. ...Has anyone ever told you you're a geunis?!? I'll edit the main post later to include your idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juhnie Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Sounds like a nice idea to give F2P a chance at bosshunting. Support. Master of Attack ~ August 29th, 2010Proud to have served the awesome Tip.It Crew <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assume Nothing Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Uhmmm, thanks for updating the droplist, now, all you need to do is lower the percentages, make them fractions or ratios to represent drop chance (drop rate but that's technically wrong), and make the chances of items lower. In your post, you're saying about 1 out of 20 kills will drop a rune item. That's far too high, perhaps multiples can be dropped but decrease the drop rates. I mean, for a few high level f2pers and or p2pers, the boss would be extremely easy to solo, therefore ALOT of rune items will flood the economy. I mean, you can't exact restrict it for f2pers only, whatever f2p gets, p2p gets, so having rune items 1/20, being easily campable for members with good gear, too much rune would enter the game. Even the best monster that I know of which drops rune items (Zamorak Warriors drop them about 1/40 or 1/50, need more testing but that's my guess of the rates) do not drop them so much. There should be more 'nooby' gear dropped by the boss too. Adamant Platebodies will be too easy to get, I mean, about 1/3 for a 10k alchable drop, seriously -.-. This post has been rushed and may contain errors that I haven't noticed, so don't be picky! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youmu Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Support. The new Elvarg's name could be "Elvarg's Revenge" or something that requires a quest to finish in order to access this boss, just like Corporeal Beast and Summer's End. BlogTrimmed | Master Quester | Final BossBoss pets: Bombi | Shrimpy | Ellie | Tz-Rek Jad | Karil the Bobbled | Mega Ducklings120s: Dungeoneering | Invention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiriyama Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Yeah, I should add in something. You will not be able to get another head if you do create Evlarg's Dragon Helmet. However, you will be able to if you lose the helmet. Also, Elvarg's Head should be able to be mounted in your POH, upon doing so, you would be able to get another head. EDIT: You'll need stats too. Attack Bonuses: +3 to all. Defense Bonuses: Stab: 33, Slash: 35, Crush: 30, Magic: 2, Range: 33, Summoning: 7. Strength Bonus: +2 Prayer Bonus: +1 I debated some of these to myself. It gives minimal Magic Defense, as, although it contains Dragonhide, it is still mostly metal. Regarding the Prayer Bonus, I though that F2P has little Prayer bonus giving headgear, if any, though I kept it low as this, despite being F2P's best helm, is more of an item to say "I did that" rather than provide great stats. It was not my original intention to give it a prayer bonus, but then I though +1 doesn't make that much of a difference, so why not? Regarding how it looks, I believe it should look similar to the Dragon's head itself, though on a smaller scale, however, it should keep the basic shape of the Rune Full Helmet. Also, I figure that rather than just give the guy the helmet and head, you should have to pay a 50k fee, for labour and materials used. Denizen of Darkness| PSN= sworddude198 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlonewolf Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Hi Great idea this is just what f2p need a boss monster and i love the idea of Elvarg's Dragon Helmet. And the best of all the new Ceo Mod MMG did say he want to make f2p better with more content and this imo is the type of content that is needed. U have my support Proud owner of the Quest Cape from 28-03-08[hide=I proudly support these threads]A challenge for those of you who want a challenge.101 SuggestionsContemporary S&Q, NEW SPELLS.Skill Capes and F2p - A Real Suggestion.Champion's Challenge in dire need of an updateExpanding the POH Costume Room.Nechryaels, the 80 Slayer monster, deserve better DropsReviving Smithing: Divine Equipment [Armor Update]ps: Sorry cannot support more[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadukar123 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 I'd say the fee for the BEST F2P helmet would cost at least 500k, however 1m seems more like it. It should have decently high protect value. (Say same as Rune platebody?) Drops: Misc: Abyssal Whip x28 , Dark Bow x5, Beserker Ring x3, Warrior ring x1 Dragon: Dragon Platelegs x2 , Dragon Plateskirt x2, Dragon Boots x38, Dragon Med Helm x4, Shield left half x3 Godwars: Godsword shard x13, Bandos Hilt x3, Bandos Chestplate x6, Bandos Tassets x4, Bandos Boots x5, Saradomin Sword x1, Zamorakian Spear x1,. Armadyl Helm x2, Armadyl chestplate x2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiriyama Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Sorry, but thats insanely overpriced for its bonus. I've just thrown on 3 to every attack and defense bonus, and gave it a small strength bonus, and a small prayer bonus. Its price is fine, you have to defeat a somewhat difficult monster (for F2P), and lets face it, the bonus I gave it is very small, almost insignificant in the grand scheme of things. 50k is fine. Denizen of Darkness| PSN= sworddude198 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenove Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 A bit too strong hits for a boss. just because of that i think it is a very reasonable idea beacue it wouldnt take much beacuse elvarg is in the game. I really hopwe this would come. And btw if a boss is released to f2p its going to be hellahard SUPPORT : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeDaStudd Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Nice idea and well thought out. The coins drop anything 5k or less is fine. The helm with 3+ attack bonuses well, just make it the strength bonus. [hide=Drops]Dragon Axe x11Berserker Ring x9Warrior Ring x8SeercullDragon MedDragon Boots x4 - all less then 30 kcGodsword Shard (bandos)Granite Maul x 3Solo only - doesn't include barrows[/hide][hide=Stats][/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blossom2581 Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Love the idea And it would be great if this monster is non soloable for most but the best of f2pers. We have cockroaches, we have greaters, but all can be soloed easily. I reckon one that requires a f2p clan to slay effectively would be better. A new member; f2p for 4+ yearsSeldom get online due to in real life businessAlways support f2p improvements Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuyu13 Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 Luv it!!!!! FTP nneds a new item/event and this gives both!! I would suggest, however, making the runite item drop percentage less and adding more adamantite items. FULL SUPPORT. and jus cause i luv the smiley, :wall: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicrune007 Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 Elvarg - Revenge of the fallen :twss: Yeah sounds good why not? Support. Hey Nicrune007 , Whats Your Username? 99 Ranged on 2/6/07 99 Hit Points on 9/5/08 99 Defense on 26/4/08 99 Attack on 14/2/09 99 Strength on 25/2/09 99 Slayer on 13/9/09\:D/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 Ok...kinda good idea for a boss, but rangers and mages are waaaay overpowered. It's a dragon right? So that means it'll behave like every other dragon. If you're a few squares away from it, it'll just stop meleeing you and either do nothing like normal monsters or use dragonbreath. That being said, rangers would have an extremely easy time since they would not need to worry about the melee attack. They'd only need to consider the dragonbreath, which wouldn't be fired very often. Therefore, mages have it even easier than rangers. They can equip a anti-dragon shield. Then if they prayer against magic as well, the dragon-breath's damage would be brought down even further. Sure magic isn't very effective. So what? At high magic levels (70 or so), that ceases to be a problem, and you can mage them without much penalty. Easiest solution? Give him a ranged attack. ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiriyama Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 Ok...kinda good idea for a boss, but rangers and mages are waaaay overpowered. It's a dragon right? So that means it'll behave like every other dragon. If you're a few squares away from it, it'll just stop meleeing you and either do nothing like normal monsters or use dragonbreath. That being said, rangers would have an extremely easy time since they would not need to worry about the melee attack. They'd only need to consider the dragonbreath, which wouldn't be fired very often. Therefore, mages have it even easier than rangers. They can equip a anti-dragon shield. Then if they prayer against magic as well, the dragon-breath's damage would be brought down even further. Sure magic isn't very effective. So what? At high magic levels (70 or so), that ceases to be a problem, and you can mage them without much penalty. Easiest solution? Give him a ranged attack. Elvarg is female... I agree with the Ranged attack though. Denizen of Darkness| PSN= sworddude198 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abc1230 Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 The drops are waaaaaaay too good for something that level YouTube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 Ok...kinda good idea for a boss, but rangers and mages are waaaay overpowered. It's a dragon right? So that means it'll behave like every other dragon. If you're a few squares away from it, it'll just stop meleeing you and either do nothing like normal monsters or use dragonbreath. That being said, rangers would have an extremely easy time since they would not need to worry about the melee attack. They'd only need to consider the dragonbreath, which wouldn't be fired very often. Therefore, mages have it even easier than rangers. They can equip a anti-dragon shield. Then if they prayer against magic as well, the dragon-breath's damage would be brought down even further. Sure magic isn't very effective. So what? At high magic levels (70 or so), that ceases to be a problem, and you can mage them without much penalty. Easiest solution? Give him a ranged attack. Elvarg is female... I agree with the Ranged attack though. I thought that Elvarg was the only male green dragon? Who cares though it doesn't really matter for our purposes. ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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