Camping at abyssal demons.

[psvstef]

hello,

 

 

 

i'm currently camping at abyssal demons using this outfit and healing with a bunyip:

 

 

 

 

 

 

this is the best outfit i could think of.

 

 

 

Fighter hat because if i would wear beserker helm/neitzinot my max hit wouldn't change.

 

Fighter hat=warrior helm,only warrior helm has a bit higher defence bonus,i dont care.

 

 

 

i will keep the ring of wealth.

 

 

 

So what can i improve on my outfit?

[ikraz66]

Looks good to me. Zerker ring maybe?

[psvstef]

no i believe in ring of wealth.

 

 

 

did alot of trips with wealth and alot without and there clearly is a difference.

[ikraz66]

Oh i'm sure it works, just not enough to make up for your extra max hit +1 from the zerker ring. In other words it makes your chance of a whip 1 in 495 instead of 1 in 500. This has been sorta proven but I don't really understand it. Then again, it's up to you.

[Dire_Wolf]

Excellent ;) Looks great :thumbsup:

[bedman]

Might change the bandos to verac skirt and proselyte top and pray 10% str, or even piety. Take a neitiznot then for the prayer bonus too (+ str).

[ilovecardj]

^ what he said.

[sumondskull6]

Fact: Ring of wealth doesn't increase the chance of getting a whip, a whip is not a 'rare' drop.

 

Use a Zerker ring, despite what all calculators say, helm of neitiznot DOES increase the max hit.

[Numberkills]

Fact: Ring of wealth doesn't increase the chance of getting a whip, a whip is not a 'rare' drop.

 

Use a Zerker ring, despite what all calculators say, helm of neitiznot DOES increase the max hit.

 

 

 

While I whole-heartedly agree that would be the best option, the OP stated that he wears the ring of wealth regardless of any of other reason. For lack of a better word/reason, he does it superstitiously.

[sumondskull6]

Fact: Ring of wealth doesn't increase the chance of getting a whip, a whip is not a 'rare' drop.

 

Use a Zerker ring, despite what all calculators say, helm of neitiznot DOES increase the max hit.

 

 

 

While I whole-heartedly agree that would be the best option, the OP stated that he wears the ring of wealth regardless of any of other reason. For lack of a better word/reason, he does it superstitiously.

 

 

 

It'd be like wearing a wealth when killing men, it has NO effect. Despite what he might like to use, it's inevitable that wealth is useless and that even a ROL would be a better choice...

[EGmaestro]

Might change the bandos to verac skirt and proselyte top and pray 10% str, or even piety. Take a neitiznot then for the prayer bonus too (+ str).

 

 

 

isnt that a penance skirt, not bandos? what you said wasnt quite clear so sorry if im just not sure what you were talking about :?

[Numberkills]

Fact: Ring of wealth doesn't increase the chance of getting a whip, a whip is not a 'rare' drop.

 

Use a Zerker ring, despite what all calculators say, helm of neitiznot DOES increase the max hit.

 

 

 

While I whole-heartedly agree that would be the best option, the OP stated that he wears the ring of wealth regardless of any of other reason. For lack of a better word/reason, he does it superstitiously.

 

 

 

It'd be like wearing a wealth when killing men, it has NO effect. Despite what he might like to use, it's inevitable that wealth is useless and that even a ROL would be a better choice...

 

 

 

I completely understand what you're saying and agree. It's psv (OP) who doesn't want to wear it.

[Death123141]

Might change the bandos to verac skirt and proselyte top and pray 10% str, or even piety. Take a neitiznot then for the prayer bonus too (+ str).

 

 

 

isnt that a penance skirt, not bandos? what you said wasnt quite clear so sorry if im just not sure what you were talking about :?

 

Dude what are you talking about and why are you bringing up penance skirt?

[EGmaestro]

in the picture in his post...is that a penance skirt?

[Cptbaker08]

Might change the bandos to verac skirt and proselyte top and pray 10% str, or even piety. Take a neitiznot then for the prayer bonus too (+ str).

 

 

 

isnt that a penance skirt, not bandos? what you said wasnt quite clear so sorry if im just not sure what you were talking about :?

 

No that clearly is bandos. The penace skirt is longer and a solid color i believe.

[EGmaestro]

ah ok. at first glance i thought it was penance, but then i looked again...

[meme79]

Fact: Ring of wealth doesn't increase the chance of getting a whip, a whip is not a 'rare' drop.

 

Use a Zerker ring, despite what all calculators say, helm of neitiznot DOES increase the max hit.

 

proof?

[sumondskull6]

Fact: Ring of wealth doesn't increase the chance of getting a whip, a whip is not a 'rare' drop.

 

Use a Zerker ring, despite what all calculators say, helm of neitiznot DOES increase the max hit.

 

proof?

 

 

 

There have been MANY people who are enlightened to the fact that ROW simply doesn't do what everyone thinks it does.

 

My proof is JaGex.

 

simple explination: There are two wheels for monster drops. the first wheel is spun, whatever it lands on chooses WHAT CATEGORY OF A DROP YOU WILL RECEIVE! ex: rare, common, uncommon.

 

wheel #2 decides WHAT DROP YOU GET FROM THAT CATEGORY!

 

 

 

ROW only increases the chance of better rare items on the SECOND wheel. So unless you get lucky in the first place ROW really doesn't do anything. Also a whip is 'uncommon', ROW has NO/ZERO/0/NONE/ZILCH effect on whips.

[Inuashakent]

Fact: Ring of wealth doesn't increase the chance of getting a whip, a whip is not a 'rare' drop.

 

Use a Zerker ring, despite what all calculators say, helm of neitiznot DOES increase the max hit.

 

proof?

 

 

 

There have been MANY people who are enlightened to the fact that ROW simply doesn't do what everyone thinks it does.

 

My proof is JaGex.

 

simple explination: There are two wheels for monster drops. the first wheel is spun, whatever it lands on chooses WHAT CATEGORY OF A DROP YOU WILL RECEIVE! ex: rare, common, uncommon.

 

wheel #2 decides WHAT DROP YOU GET FROM THAT CATEGORY!

 

 

 

ROW only increases the chance of better rare items on the SECOND wheel. So unless you get lucky in the first place ROW really doesn't do anything. Also a whip is 'uncommon', ROW has NO/ZERO/0/NONE/ZILCH effect on whips.

 

I thought you knew what you were talking about at first...

 

 

 

You are on the right track. There is no uncommon category. It's called... you guessed it, rare.

[sumondskull6]

Fact: Ring of wealth doesn't increase the chance of getting a whip, a whip is not a 'rare' drop.

 

Use a Zerker ring, despite what all calculators say, helm of neitiznot DOES increase the max hit.

 

proof?

 

 

 

There have been MANY people who are enlightened to the fact that ROW simply doesn't do what everyone thinks it does.

 

My proof is JaGex.

 

simple explination: There are two wheels for monster drops. the first wheel is spun, whatever it lands on chooses WHAT CATEGORY OF A DROP YOU WILL RECEIVE! ex: rare, common, uncommon.

 

wheel #2 decides WHAT DROP YOU GET FROM THAT CATEGORY!

 

 

 

ROW only increases the chance of better rare items on the SECOND wheel. So unless you get lucky in the first place ROW really doesn't do anything. Also a whip is 'uncommon', ROW has NO/ZERO/0/NONE/ZILCH effect on whips.

 

I thought you knew what you were talking about at first...

 

 

 

You are on the right track. There is no uncommon category. It's called... you guessed it, rare.

 

 

 

Sorry, there is uncommon.

[Inuashakent]

Fact: Ring of wealth doesn't increase the chance of getting a whip, a whip is not a 'rare' drop.

 

Use a Zerker ring, despite what all calculators say, helm of neitiznot DOES increase the max hit.

 

proof?

 

 

 

There have been MANY people who are enlightened to the fact that ROW simply doesn't do what everyone thinks it does.

 

My proof is JaGex.

 

simple explination: There are two wheels for monster drops. the first wheel is spun, whatever it lands on chooses WHAT CATEGORY OF A DROP YOU WILL RECEIVE! ex: rare, common, uncommon.

 

wheel #2 decides WHAT DROP YOU GET FROM THAT CATEGORY!

 

 

 

ROW only increases the chance of better rare items on the SECOND wheel. So unless you get lucky in the first place ROW really doesn't do anything. Also a whip is 'uncommon', ROW has NO/ZERO/0/NONE/ZILCH effect on whips.

 

I thought you knew what you were talking about at first...

 

 

 

You are on the right track. There is no uncommon category. It's called... you guessed it, rare.

 

 

 

Sorry, there is uncommon.

 

I guess I could be wrong that there is no uncommon wheel, although we can't really be sure of that. But sorry, whip is in the rare category. How do I know? Well, JAGEX HAS NOT RELEASED THE OFFICIAL "WHEELS" YET.

 

 

1) If thou consider the possessions of an enemy to be like a roulette wheel, then the 'rare' items so coveted by players are located on a second roulette wheel, that will only be spun shouldst thou roll a specific number on the first wheel.

 

The ring of wealth affects not the number which thou may achieve upon the first wheel, but should thou gain the precise number to allow thee access to the second, the ring will make thy chances of gaining an object on that second roulette wheel all the greater.

 

My analogy is flawed, for death is not like roulette, but I hope that thou see the truth within this.

 

 

 

2) Life hath no schedule to follow, for it is an ever evolving process, and the nature of balance decrees that things occur when they must occur.

 

However, all events hath their patterns, and by scrutinising that which hath occurred before thou may see the patterns that run through things, and mayhaps predict when new events might be brought about upon this world...

 

That's all Jagex stated. The only true way of knowing if a Ring of wealth then is through extensive testing. Zarfot (EXTREMELY credible source) , in his slayer guide and goals has accurately recorded with and without Ring of wealths. His tests conclude that the Whips are affected by the wealth.

 

 

Here's the drop rate for whips based on the tasks I did from 85 to 99 slayer, approximately from February 2007 to June 2007. Most tasks were done in the Alternate Abyss.

 

 

 

With wealth: 14 per 6045 demons, or 1 per 432 demons.

 

Without wealth: 14 per 6372 demons, or 1 per 455 demons.

 

 

 

I also got 2 dragon spears and 1 dragon med helm without wealth.

 

I did not get any dragon drops with wealth.

 

 

 

Of course, I cannot guarantee my data gives exactly the average rates, but it should be close. I do not believe that the whip drop rate has ever been changed, and I believe it is the same in both the Slayer Tower and Alternate Abyss.

 

 

 

Fact > rumors

[purewcnub]

Oooh, you got kent on you now. ;)

 

 

 

I'd reccomend the ring of wealth. Even if it doesn't work as some people say, it gives you a lucky feeling when wearing it so you'll be motivated to keep killing.

[Kinosjourney]

Nezi helm > Penance helm. :mrgreen:

[dirk4slayer]

 

 

Here's the drop rate for whips based on the tasks I did from 85 to 99 slayer, approximately from February 2007 to June 2007. Most tasks were done in the Alternate Abyss.

 

 

 

With wealth: 14 per 6045 demons, or 1 per 432 demons.

 

Without wealth: 14 per 6372 demons, or 1 per 455 demons.

 

 

 

I also got 2 dragon spears and 1 dragon med helm without wealth.

 

I did not get any dragon drops with wealth.

 

 

 

Of course, I cannot guarantee my data gives exactly the average rates, but it should be close. I do not believe that the whip drop rate has ever been changed, and I believe it is the same in both the Slayer Tower and Alternate Abyss.

 

 

 

Fact > rumors

 

Such a teeny tiny difference lol. If he had killed 327 more Demons with wealth and gotten no Whip drops, and thus getting an equal average drop as he did without the wealth, which is quite probable, I don't think you'd be proclaiming this all over the place.

 

Anyways, OT: I'd say that you'd better take a Zerker/Warrior Ring than a RoW, apart from that your outfit looks perfect to me.

[nicrune007]

 

 

Here's the drop rate for whips based on the tasks I did from 85 to 99 slayer, approximately from February 2007 to June 2007. Most tasks were done in the Alternate Abyss.

 

 

 

With wealth: 14 per 6045 demons, or 1 per 432 demons.

 

Without wealth: 14 per 6372 demons, or 1 per 455 demons.

 

 

 

I also got 2 dragon spears and 1 dragon med helm without wealth.

 

I did not get any dragon drops with wealth.

 

 

 

Of course, I cannot guarantee my data gives exactly the average rates, but it should be close. I do not believe that the whip drop rate has ever been changed, and I believe it is the same in both the Slayer Tower and Alternate Abyss.

 

 

 

Fact > rumors

 

Such a teeny tiny difference lol. If he had killed 327 more Demons with wealth and gotten no Whip drops, and thus getting an equal average drop as he did without the wealth, which is quite probable, I don't think you'd be proclaiming this all over the place.

 

Anyways, OT: I'd say that you'd better take a Zerker/Warrior Ring than a RoW, apart from that your outfit looks perfect to me.

 

 

 

I remember Clifford got 100 whip drops and he used Zerker ring all the way, he says his whip drop rate was 1:700.

 

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