archimage_a Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Similar deals are available to everyone who needs a defensive navy in the short term(Since I have 200 spare caravels now)The same 'Step on the ship and your infiltrators will be exterminated' clause applies to all of them. The fleet, while similar to mercenaries, are a deterrent fleet, they will not actively attack. Also all Caravels(except the 10 in RD and the 5 in Sol/Sega) are being outfitted with Ross-Type Civilian AIs, so if anyone gets a bit nerve-gas happy the ship is programmed to retreat to Adrigas, firing all lasers spherically(So it looks like a massive mace). Also what do people think about the crippling economic recession that could hit Dusty and Sere(and to a lesser extent Grim) due to their massive war time production and losses. Dusty will(might, if no one has strong objections) be the worst hit, since he lost the most people, as well as most of the fighting took place inside his(new) territory. Sere gets the second worst since he lost his entire empire. Grim has a massive oversupply now so that could easily become the worst if left unchecked. http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retech Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 I'll do the deal if there's a condition that you don't trade/give out the tech that I give you to anyone else. It's pretty low-key stuff and most is only applicable to aquatic races, but I still like it to be somewhat unique. Is that alright with you? Also, what is the penalty if the Caravels are destroyed during battle? Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county! Former moderator of the original DungeoneeringFormer moderator of Ye Olde HegemonyModerator of the remake of DungeoneeringFormer Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)Former President of the United States (Hegemony)Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Lord Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Archi, I didn't lose my empire. I just simply relocated after the war. Besides that, I think people are practically ignoring their losses. SWAG Mayn U wanna be like me but U can't be me cuz U ain't got ma swagga on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retech Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 I support a widesweeping economic recession, with riots and everything! :) Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county! Former moderator of the original DungeoneeringFormer moderator of Ye Olde HegemonyModerator of the remake of DungeoneeringFormer Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)Former President of the United States (Hegemony)Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim_ Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Okay as I need to deal with this recession I am setting up government projects (ie construction of dams monuments etc.) and am shuttling massive amounts of people to mining colonies. This may help a bit also I have struck a deal with sere in which I will buy about 1,000 tonnes of gold a year (I intend to create my own currency eventually/ make gilded cities on earth) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archimage_a Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 The penalties? My Caravels are expecting to survive. If they don't then it is their own stupid fault(Thus might make them run away if Rocco deploys massive lasers, which is reasonable, considering) I promise that for the next 20 years(at least) I will not trade any of your tech with anyone(Unless I am about to be conquered or something). Archi, I didn't lose my empire. I just simply relocated after the war. Besides that, I think people are practically ignoring their losses. Indeed, but without a war going on I might as well branch out into economics, try to get the game running to kilter. But I am not committed on this since it could seriously screw up the game if people don't want to do it. http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retech Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 I am purchasing gold from Sere to hedge against inflation. Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county! Former moderator of the original DungeoneeringFormer moderator of Ye Olde HegemonyModerator of the remake of DungeoneeringFormer Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)Former President of the United States (Hegemony)Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Lord Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Okay, the Britannian government has approved the creation of a new industry: Alchemy. Project Au will continue as scientists try to look for new and more efficient ways to transmute metals. The Alchemists United (AU) has been formed. The above symbol will adorn the National Alchemical Headquarters in New London. Gold leaf will be used to decorate the large symbol engraved into the brown marble walkway/monument in front of the complex. The smallest circle in the middle of the symbol will be a large tier fountain with gold foil adorning its edges. SWAG Mayn U wanna be like me but U can't be me cuz U ain't got ma swagga on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retech Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Oh dear, is it possible if we get your gold half price? It seems that gold is more common nowadays. (with alchemy) Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county! Former moderator of the original DungeoneeringFormer moderator of Ye Olde HegemonyModerator of the remake of DungeoneeringFormer Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)Former President of the United States (Hegemony)Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisp Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Actually gold would be extremely expensive right now, and Sere would not have much. Since I've been stockpiling all the gold I mine for the past 100 years or so, and I controlled the biggest gold producing areas in the world. I guess that is just for Earth, but still. Hegemony-Spain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archimage_a Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 I think the whole point of Project Au(the symbol for Gold) was to develop the ability to produce Gold though nuclear synthesis..... given that he has Quark generators from Ross his power supply is enough to allow him to do so. http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisp Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 I just realized something; that's a terrible idea. All it does is horribly devalue gold. It won't make him any money, anyways. Hegemony-Spain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Lord Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 I just realized something; that's a terrible idea. All it does is horribly devalue gold. It won't make him any money, anyways. It all just depends, really. It would take a massive flooding of the market in order to really damage the inter-solar market, but that can be negated through quotas. There is a massive demand for gold, after all, and gold isn't the only metal that can be transmuted. Even if the market was to somehow crash, it shouldn't screw me over too badly. It creates jobs for people and still supplies my planets with the necessary amount of gold, and it saves us from having to rape the environment in order to obtain said gold. SWAG Mayn U wanna be like me but U can't be me cuz U ain't got ma swagga on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archimage_a Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 In the short term it will, in the long term it screws the economy over, but that is in the future. Anyway(last update the 6th):Completed:New MetalQuantum RifleGravity LensingStation outfittingConstruction of 5 Caravel classHeat Resilient Genetic EngineeringTungsten-Iron Limpet Completed in lie:Personal Electron Lattices(Protects from hand to hand combat)Glazozky's theorem (For creating Anti-Matter)The Unified Principle Approach (Setting)What the Hell is that? (Setting)Fuzzy Quark (Transitional state between Matter and Anti-Matter)[hide=Feel the science]The Fuzzy Quark oscillates between being a particle and an anti-particle and is naturally created by the universe by a, then unknown, force. The Fuzzy Quark explains how both, the Galzoky generator and Quark Fusion process work. Both had been assumed as a simple matter-energy reaction. In both cases the energy excites the unknown force, creating a deluge of Fuzzy Quarks. In Quark Fusion this would generate new positive Quarks because the Fuzzy Quark would decay when it was a particle, while in the Galzoky generator the Fuzzy Quark would decay when it was an anti-particle. It also implicated that there was matter coming into existence every second, as opposed to a finite amount of matter and energy. The theory was reminiscent of the mid 20th century theory of a Steady State universe, which predicted that matter was created and destroyed, periodically, on such a small scale it was impossible to detect. It should be understood that the Fuzzy Quark process is not a small scale process, but a process that occurs with great frequency, but rarely yields a detectable particle; in the vast majority of cases the Fuzzy Quark does not have a stable matrix (Does not have a congenital electric charge, relative velocity and energy level) for forming a particle or anti-particle, as such they drain back from where they came. Given that the particle could only be observed with a very low degree of accuracy, since they existed for such a short period, the information has advanced relatively little since their discovery. The relative particle velocity decreases relative to the time it has been traveling; this was put down to the forces acting on it, in agreement with the third law of motion. However there was no detectable perturbation in any detectable forces, and given that the amount of energy (approximately 2 indexed to -18 Coulombs or s indexed to -18 Coulombs, 12.45 times the charge of a proton or electron) the Fuzzy Quark exists at, it would appear that the third law of motion could not be used to justify this. In order to assuage these doubts it was theorized that another field existed, the Fuzzy Field, which was perturbed by the movement of this particle, and thus provided the resistance. The electric charge oscillates, but does so by a decreasing amount as the Quark progresses towards a more stable state of 0. While the laws of Physics would suggest that this should not be the case; that there should be an asymptoted decrease towards 0, such theory would contradict what can be observed. As such an alternate theory has been proposed that would suggest that the particle is inherently unstable; that this inherent instability went beyond the confines of contemporary atomic theory, thereby meaning that the laws of physics remained intact but underdeveloped- another factor was influencing this particle that had not been seen before. This factor was put down to the Fuzzy Field again. The charge of the particle was the only thing that could be influenced, though the Quark Fusion and Galzoky methods. In Quark Fusion the Anti-charge was decreased, while the charge was increased by a relative amount, dubbed moving the middle of the road, this was done by subjecting the particle to a dense proton field. The Galzoky method was more ingenious, a magnetic field would repel and attract the particles as they switched charges, but rather than increase or decrease in speed or energy level, their charge would decrease, by infinitesimal amounts, the closer to the magnetic center they degenerated. The decrease increased the chance of an anti-particle forming to a noticeable chance. Finally the energy level created another unique problem. There was an energy output and energy input, yet increasing or decreasing the ambient energy and bombarding it with high energy particles, had no effect on the energy taken in or given out. That was not all though, at the point which most energy was taken in, the most energy was given out. The Quark seemed to feed itself. This was given as the clearest evidence that a Fuzzy Field exists, as it would indicate that our energy was being taken in by the field and the field was relaying some sort of energy back that the Quark could absorb. It was however never proved one way or the other, and the laws of physics remain at a loss to explain how or why the particle is so strangely foreign, compared to all other types of particle. [/hide]Anti-Matter Beam(A beam of anti-matter(QED) not weaponized, highly unstable)Energy Bombardment(Setting)Energy Channeling(Setting)Energy Focusing(Setting)Confinement Beams(Setting)The Hera Incident(Setting)Revolt on Cybele(Shift in thinking)Counter-Revolt on Cybele(Shift in thinking)Beneath the Sea(Shift in thinking)20,000 Leagues Later(Population growth) In progress:Anti-Matter Containment 4/46 (Pretty much what it says on the tin)Farcasters 16/20 (Transports anything into a void space, which can then be extracted by another device somewhere else)The Unnatural Birth 3/4 (Creation of the Male-Male child)Quantum Entanglement Drive 12/60 (A device for the instantaneous translation of a ship from one point of the multiverse to another point.(1 Year charge up per 500 Meters Cubed)Project Procaren 2/55 (Secret)The Ring 16/15/19 (Internet development on all planets. Must reach 100 to complete)Coherent Quark Beams 1/15 (Torture device, creates tiny random atoms when it reaches nerve endings. Designed for battlefield use to be a non-lethal deterrent, no living creature can stand the beam for more than 5 seconds, any that try to(It renders you unconscience after 5 seconds) suffer permanent brain damage.Personal Cloaking Shields 18/30 (Pretty much what it says on the tin, again) The focus is on creating an army and fleet which can arrive unseen and prevent wars before they begin. Fleet size:40 Transport Ships320 Fighter Class Caravels10 Capital Class Caravels Fleets in Transit:10 Fighter Class Caravels in Recea Decimus10 Fighter Class Caravels in Open Space5 Fighter Class Caravels in Sega-Res Home Fleet:300 Fighter Class Caravels40 Transport Ships10 Capital Class Caravels http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Lord Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Why do you have 5 gunships near my planet? :cry: SWAG Mayn U wanna be like me but U can't be me cuz U ain't got ma swagga on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisp Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 I just realized something; that's a terrible idea. All it does is horribly devalue gold. It won't make him any money, anyways. It all just depends, really. It would take a massive flooding of the market in order to really damage the inter-solar market, but that can be negated through quotas. There is a massive demand for gold, after all, and gold isn't the only metal that can be transmuted. Even if the market was to somehow crash, it shouldn't screw me over too badly. It creates jobs for people and still supplies my planets with the necessary amount of gold, and it saves us from having to rape the environment in order to obtain said gold.There is no necessary amount of gold. It's sort of like aluminum, it used to be ridiculously valuable, worn as jewelry, and so on. Then there was a huge surplus of it, and look what aluminum is worth now. Though aluminum is way more useful than gold, I would say. Hegemony-Spain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Lord Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 You're just jealous cause I'm on a boat and you ain't. SWAG Mayn U wanna be like me but U can't be me cuz U ain't got ma swagga on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim_ Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 I just realized something; that's a terrible idea. All it does is horribly devalue gold. It won't make him any money, anyways. It all just depends, really. It would take a massive flooding of the market in order to really damage the inter-solar market, but that can be negated through quotas. There is a massive demand for gold, after all, and gold isn't the only metal that can be transmuted. Even if the market was to somehow crash, it shouldn't screw me over too badly. It creates jobs for people and still supplies my planets with the necessary amount of gold, and it saves us from having to rape the environment in order to obtain said gold.There is no necessary amount of gold. It's sort of like aluminum, it used to be ridiculously valuable, worn as jewelry, and so on. Then there was a huge surplus of it, and look what aluminum is worth now. Though aluminum is way more useful than gold, I would say.Just pointing this out but gold can be used in computer chips (civillian grade) and will probably have a use long after aluminum ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisp Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 You're just jealous cause I'm on a boat and you ain't.I have cold fusion. I can put out many times more power than you, if I wanted to use alchemy I would. Actually this reminds me. I've been thinking, and I think some things like matter compilers, and things that make elements from others (atleast in mass amounts) kind of ruin the game. Look at any science fiction galactic society, pretty much. It would be really boring if they all could make resources appear out of nothing practically. Or, if we keep them we need to make heavy rules on them. I think we should make it that if they're allowed at all, they can only create certain types of metals, like iron. Otherwise everything loses all value, the strategic value of owning more planets than you absolutely need goes down to practically 0, and so on. I can explain my opinion more if anyone wants. Also, people who invested time/money in matter compilers would be compensated with a research of equal value of their choice if we decide to restrict them. Hegemony-Spain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Lord Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Now you're just trying to ban alchemy because I thought of it. #-o SWAG Mayn U wanna be like me but U can't be me cuz U ain't got ma swagga on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisp Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Now you're just trying to ban alchemy because I thought of it. #-oWhat? No. I've been artificially producing diamonds and the like for decades. I wouldn't ban alchemy, as long as it's balanced/not in ridiculous amounts. I'm talking more about things that would replace the need for mining in general. Hegemony-Spain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Lord Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Now you're just trying to ban alchemy because I thought of it. #-oWhat? No. I've been artificially producing diamonds and the like for decades. I wouldn't ban alchemy, as long as it's balanced/not in ridiculous amounts. I'm talking more about things that would replace the need for mining in general. I can understand limiting it (even I would agree with it), but what's wrong with trying to limit mining? In all honesty, I'm using it as a means to keep my planet's ecosystem as pristine as possible, which is just as valid as someone trying to create an authoritarian society or a utopia. SWAG Mayn U wanna be like me but U can't be me cuz U ain't got ma swagga on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisp Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Oh, I don't mind that. I just don't like how we're having things like production stations that require no building materials for ships, ships that could regenerate enough of any material to rebuild themselves completely, and so on. I like the idea of mining uninhabitable planets and asteroids too. I don't know how we can get it to work in this game, but I think the key to making everything remaining interesting is not having enough resources to do everything that we want. Oh, and I just pmed you an idea I had sere. EDIT: Here's what I sent sere. I'd like everyone's opinion on this.I just had an idea. Maybe we could keep matter creation (or element creation, whatever) in the game, but it requires a certain rare resource. We randomly pick several planets that it is found on, and it is found on those planets exclusively. They will all be in uninhabitable systems, so no one has an advantage to start. We also wouldn't be able to produce it in any other way. Each planet would have a limit of how much they produce per year. I actually really, really like this idea. It would add some tension to the game on a solar level. The material could have other uses too, maybe it can speed up warps and so on. This would give whoever controls the small amounts of it a nice advantage, and a reason for people to care about it. This is how I'm thinking it would work. At most, one of the X planets we pick to have this material can only produce 200kg a year. Then we have guideline on what costs what.Like maybe 200kg would allow you to make 200 tons of another element out of another. Or 10 kg would improve a single ship's warp generators so the speeding up/slowing down time is cut in half (Make traveling around our local area take basically 1 year per jump). Stuff like that. Hegemony-Spain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Lord Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Adding to her above suggestion (I'll call it the Philosopher's Stone), current alchemy will still exist in its current form, but it will operate under Equivalent Exchange. However, the Philosopher's Stone could be used in order to make an absurd amount of a substance (thereby ignoring Equivalency) and yield great profit or whatnot. --- In other news, the Britannian colony on Zhoreuc has officially been given a name: Eden. SWAG Mayn U wanna be like me but U can't be me cuz U ain't got ma swagga on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Mather1 Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 [spoiler=Income]TaxesHuman 95 000 000 000 50 000 30 % 1 425 000 000 000 000 Jaffa 1 300 000 60 000 25 % 19 500 000 000 Goa'uld 1 000 1 500 000 10 % 150 000 000 Loan 1 500 000 000 5 % 75 000 000 Building company Apartements 5 000 30 000 40 % 60 000 000 Townhouses 2 500 75 000 40 % 75 000 000 Farms 900 125 000 40 % 45 000 000 Mansions 1 500 1 000 000 40 % 600 000 000 Pyramids 50 5 000 000 40 % 100 000 000 Trade Ring transporters 500 000 Naguadah bars 1 000 000 Drone sets 2 000 000 000 Tel'tac cargoships 5 000 000 000 Sales Ross 500 000 000 Archi 1 000 000 Income 1 425 021 106 000 000 Budget 10 % 142 502 110 600 000 In other news EM-beam weapons are now done. Twitter: @TheMather1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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