archimage_a Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 You CAN infect my people after you've obtained a sample of one of the viruses infecting my people and crossing the genes with your virusYour people have genes and therefore DNA/RNA. Sorry, you are trapped by your own words. http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retech Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 Two things: 1. Only Archi has responded. If everyone else agrees with me, he can be overturned. Remember what he said about we moderate him? 2. This isn't crossing the species barrier like... humans to pigs (they're related). It's like cuddling up to a plant on a cold day when you're home sick from the flu and giving the plant the flu. --------------------- Yes, it is true that Wikipedia states that a gene is part of DNA. What you fail to consider is the differences within the DNA. Triple-Helix is a possibility. I wouldn't know if that was possible, they said that E Coli had triple helix as an intermediary. Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county! Former moderator of the original DungeoneeringFormer moderator of Ye Olde HegemonyModerator of the remake of DungeoneeringFormer Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)Former President of the United States (Hegemony)Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Mather1 Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 Actually Retech is correct, a virus is spread by a microscopic "living syringe" injecting cells with a DNA-thread they carry, the cell however will in most cases reject the alien DNA and carry on as usual, if the virus is to work more than in 1 of the cases it will have to be created by mutating a cell of the desired type and creature or be tested several times during it's creation in order to get the desired effect. When the virus is working however it will mutate the infected cell to make it create cells that do what the virus is supposed to, if this happens mutations of lymphocytes known as natural killer cells and T type lumphycytes will kill the mutated cells, leaving them so that phagocytes can devour them. That again leaves a 0.1 chance of success of the virus working properly while not getting removed by the body, the chance of it spreading after being launched from space however lowers it again to about a 0.001 chace of success. Twitter: @TheMather1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retech Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 Oooooooh, owned by science! Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county! Former moderator of the original DungeoneeringFormer moderator of Ye Olde HegemonyModerator of the remake of DungeoneeringFormer Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)Former President of the United States (Hegemony)Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archimage_a Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 Right. The virus has a fairly superior mutation factor and therefore will work.If this wasn't a water planet then fair enough, but the fact that they will constantly be exposed to this virus, possibly for the whole year(given that the bacteria in water survives even in the ocean) it will get into the system. http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retech Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 Well five years is really all I need to build up my fleet, so I really do care that much. If the virus comes any sooner, you'll be facing a wikipedian. It's my hobby, reading thousand of Wikipedia articles. Do your worst. :) -------------------- To put spent nuclear fuel rods on my planet, I'm assuming you'll have to go through my fleet of ships. Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county! Former moderator of the original DungeoneeringFormer moderator of Ye Olde HegemonyModerator of the remake of DungeoneeringFormer Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)Former President of the United States (Hegemony)Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retech Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 Maybe so... but have you considered that I'm not alone? :) Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county! Former moderator of the original DungeoneeringFormer moderator of Ye Olde HegemonyModerator of the remake of DungeoneeringFormer Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)Former President of the United States (Hegemony)Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archimage_a Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 Retech what genetic structure is your race, since I am combing your genes with my own on Neptune. http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Mather1 Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 If the virus comes any sooner, you'll be facing a wikipedian. It's my hobby, reading thousand of Wikipedia articles. Do your worst. :)Then we're two. :) Either way; if he launches a biological attack like the one stated I will simply send you a ship containing a few houndred Goa'ulds which you could implant for a short time in the majority of those who fall sick, those would then regain their health, due to the healing properties the Goa'ulds have on their hosts, and become imune. Twitter: @TheMather1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retech Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 It's a triple helix. I know what you're thinking, they don't exist. However, certain forms of E-Coli have it as an intermediary stage. Would you like some prisoners to use? Errrr, my species' population increases about 30 million a year now. Could I implant those into my top government officials then? My general populace wouldn't be helped much. :) Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county! Former moderator of the original DungeoneeringFormer moderator of Ye Olde HegemonyModerator of the remake of DungeoneeringFormer Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)Former President of the United States (Hegemony)Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archimage_a Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 1. Only Archi has responded. If everyone else agrees with me, he can be overturned. Remember what he said about we moderate him?No, you can moderate my actions as a whole, ie 4 or more people disagree with my actions. However I have defacto control over all of you, unless everyone votes against me. Either way; if he launches a biological attack like the one stated I will simply send you a ship containing a few houndred Goa'ulds which you could implant for a short time in the majority of those who fall sick, those would then regain their health, due to the healing properties the Goa'ulds have on their hosts, and become imune. No super weapons. It's a triple helix. I know what you're thinking, they don't exist. However, certain forms of E-Coli have it as an intermediary stage. Would you like some prisoners to use? Already have them from a while ago, and from the caravel agreement. http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Mather1 Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 Either way; if he launches a biological attack like the one stated I will simply send you a ship containing a few houndred Goa'ulds which you could implant for a short time in the majority of those who fall sick, those would then regain their health, due to the healing properties the Goa'ulds have on their hosts, and become imune. No super weapons.Those are not weapon those are my "people", when they take control of a creature they work as it's imune system sharing their near-perfect health with their host. And Rocco, the implantation of a Goa'uld takes only seconds as it enters through the neck/mouth by itself as it is a parasitic reature. Twitter: @TheMather1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archimage_a Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 So they give you a 99% immunity from Biological warfare? That seems a bit gamewrecking. Considering that I am not allowed to have 55% immunity from lasers... http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retech Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 There are only a few hundred of them? Do they take control of the host's brain? Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county! Former moderator of the original DungeoneeringFormer moderator of Ye Olde HegemonyModerator of the remake of DungeoneeringFormer Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)Former President of the United States (Hegemony)Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Mather1 Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 Either way; if he launches a biological attack like the one stated I will simply send you a ship containing a few houndred Goa'ulds which you could implant for a short time in the majority of those who fall sick, those would then regain their health, due to the healing properties the Goa'ulds have on their hosts, and become imune. No super weapons.Those are not weapon those are my "people", when they take control of a creature they work as it's imune system sharing their near-perfect health with their host.So, mister wikpedian, please explain exactly how that works.The naquadah in their blood takes care of most bacteria while their supreme antibodies(they are after all millenia older than us a a sentient race) will quickly addapt to any viral or other infection, including cancer. And archi I have only about 1000 who are entirely secure against biological warefare and a few mill who are 50%, either way it's fair as your ships have 100% protection from ballistic and plasmic weaponry. Yes, Retech, they do take controll of their hosts neural systems, however the hosts will still be consious and I have no reason to tell them to keep your people as hosts permanently, so you have no reason not to trust them. Twitter: @TheMather1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retech Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 Very strong immune system? Like you said before, unless it had an extremely strong immune system, the virus cannot be prevented. Well here we are with an extremely strong immune system. Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county! Former moderator of the original DungeoneeringFormer moderator of Ye Olde HegemonyModerator of the remake of DungeoneeringFormer Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)Former President of the United States (Hegemony)Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archimage_a Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 Yay, I get my protection back. Sorry rocco your ships are completely useless again, blame mather.And archi I have only about 1000 who are entirely secure against biological warefare and a few mill who are 50%, either way it's fair as your ships have 100% protection from ballistic and plasmic weaponry.Clearly he agrees with me having my Hypernum armour, since he was the swing voter I get my armour back. http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retech Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 I'm confused... what? Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county! Former moderator of the original DungeoneeringFormer moderator of Ye Olde HegemonyModerator of the remake of DungeoneeringFormer Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)Former President of the United States (Hegemony)Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Mather1 Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 Which means nothing because it's impossible to rotate these thngs around to what you called a sedentary farming population.Heard about hospitals and warning posters and comercials? It's like saying those who live on the country won't survive the swine flu. Great pure ownage coming your way rocco. I'm listing things that can fight so far: One city ship(Atlantis). One mounted PEP. One houndred defensive outposts. 11,830 puddlejumpers 2,828,500 drone missiles. -We're talking major fireworks here. :twisted: And don't forget the nuclear powered shields around each city including Atlantis. Twitter: @TheMather1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retech Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 I was thinking that once they implanted themselves, then they were stuck. I've resigned myself to the fate that hundreds of millions of my people will die, but my queen will be okay. Don't worry Mather, I'm coming to save you! Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county! Former moderator of the original DungeoneeringFormer moderator of Ye Olde HegemonyModerator of the remake of DungeoneeringFormer Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)Former President of the United States (Hegemony)Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retech Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 The goauld just stick there. I think that's the main point. ------ Mather is a fellow Wikipedian. Besides, I'm not sure if you're going to drop your virus bomb, so I'm helping him until you give me a sample of your virus so I can vaccinate my people against it. Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county! Former moderator of the original DungeoneeringFormer moderator of Ye Olde HegemonyModerator of the remake of DungeoneeringFormer Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)Former President of the United States (Hegemony)Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retech Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 Well at least it'll take another 3 days to get here, since you slowed down and redirected to Mather. :) Of course, if you were still modifying that virus, then it might take 5. Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county! Former moderator of the original DungeoneeringFormer moderator of Ye Olde HegemonyModerator of the remake of DungeoneeringFormer Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)Former President of the United States (Hegemony)Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archimage_a Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 Retech you are not a game master, please stop inferring things, it just makes my life difficult. http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retech Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 Could you state exactly what is going on here? After all this arguing, I'm not sure how everything stands. Basically, all I know is: 1. Rocco is sending a virus at me2. It's coming in a few days Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county! Former moderator of the original DungeoneeringFormer moderator of Ye Olde HegemonyModerator of the remake of DungeoneeringFormer Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)Former President of the United States (Hegemony)Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Mather1 Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 The Goa'ulds don't need to stay in their host, but as they shared blood their antibodies and the naquadah remains. 5000 tel'tacs sent to Retech, containing a total of 500 mature Goa'ulds. Twitter: @TheMather1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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