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[The Dark Lord]

A few fighters were shot out of Klendathu's orbit earlier today.

 

The military is currently investigating this matter.

 

The footage has been all over our various news networks.

[The_Mather1]

Ross, it's more like having one gogol of digits, if you add another gogolplex of equally long numbers you will need extreme luck to find something repeat even twice in a row.

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Ross-

Like I said, I never bothered to figure out if it was true...but suppose you had 3.14232423255253349772023073123443532457867856445435342543534473247564354325690470937059731294870395009832146130563401320139569612938655551096591846359164596123459632986093876591326591634596395609635963259863209506395609345634659465946596134956104935609342659465963456091342567489650916340560491365087916056014875608794650746509761045610465764506018653208964987634506132509632049560914560912634509612045602945609326095863205632095629365029365092630963209562936590326509326590659032656509632509673095609324690560932469873650936204961230560329640961324096036409236509632509263095623095672509365092813650926315096230956120935609326592835092365093285609326509236487926509623091569283475609213650912465098742650983261095609348562891736508796342589764258964056489560489564587693421659042563249056913425602934650932649561506134205601650432975932846509364250987325908326509326509856920385692387540952709827350973289572395793206590327590237596732096920356092158690587590327072309572309560293479052705297509237509675903279407029560932754923750975035206325032650235609326409675098734209874209857029357029374092374092570932705923095702937509237409273509735209327509570923750975095709327509273593279743035702935709328570293857093287509237509237509273509723095720395709235702379093275092358709283750928375093287509327590

 

It seems unlikely that you will get a repeating pattern...Since you are talking about infinity to the 10(10 numbers and infinate spaces...)

[Seraphi]

Yeah, but no matter how bad the pattern doesn't exist, the chances of the previous infinity digits repeating themselves in the next infinity digits, no matter how slim the chance is, since you are doing it infinity times, it becomes 1.

 

I'm going to stop now, because I'm no good at this.

[archimage_a]

Nah. Its like saying if I have all the 1s in the universe and then all the 2s in the universe eventually all the ones will equal all the twos...Or some such nonsense...I don't really think it matters too much.

[Wisp]

Let's stop talking about this now, before our brains explode.

[Seraphi]

Agreed.

[Retech]

Yes, join my game, a very simple version of biology. :thumbsup:

[The_Mather1]

Ross, where does it repeat?

http://zenwerx.com/pi.php

 

EDIT: Oh, we're done with it, my computer used like twenty minutes trying to copy around four million digits.

[The Dark Lord]

Hey guys, guess what?

 

1 / 0.

 

*phoosh*

 

1/0 == <><

 

If you divide 1 by 0, you get Undefined. Undefined is equal to Fische, which is a hypothetical number filling in for the outcome of 1 over 0.

[Nero]

Also, Christians

[The_Mather1]

<><

 

Jesus is back... get the bazookas!

[archimage_a]

1 over 0 is just 1 shared between no one...and if no one recieves anything then no one has anything and thus there is nothing.

 

Just because maths is uncomplete doesn't mean the universe is uncomplete...added to that, it seems unlikely that the universe would ever have to divide something by nought because it really is just quibbling and has no real application....all the more proof that nothing does not exist, except in the minds of humans... Hehe. 'Nothing exists in the minds of humans' is as true as any mathematical proof.

 

 

Anyway.

0=0

0*2=0

0*5=0

 

Therefore

(0*2)+(0*2)=0*5

 

Thus

(0/0*2)+(0/0*2)=(0/0*5)

 

Thus

2+2=5

 

Therefore

Despite almost 4000 years development, human mathematics still fails at a basic level.

QED

 

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Human language though overcomes these problems fairly quickly:

Nothing = Nothing

Nothing = Nothing

Nothing = Nothing

 

Therefore

Nothing = Nothing

 

Thus

Nothing = Nothing

 

Thus and therefore

Nothing is equal to Nothing.

 

Which, if taken to be abstractly true, means that no thing is equal to nothing, even nothing itself is not equal to nothing.

Which appears to be a contradiction, since the statement is 'Nothing is equal to Nothing' but then consider that this is a double negative, and thus it only follows that one thing is equal to another.

Thus it follows that nothing is either a thing, and thus is equal to other things, or that nothing is not a thing and thus is unequal to others things.

If the latter is taken to be true then it follows that we cannot apply the sames laws of mathematics to 0 that we apply to the rest of the numbers, because 0 is not a number in the same sense as the other numbers.

It is only when the former is taken to be true that problems arise because treating nothing as a valid thing creates anomolous results.

 

Thus nought is invalid as a number, indeed it is an anti-number, denoting a lack of numbers rather than a number in entire of itself.

 

Therefore the latter supposition must be true, since even if you ignore the suppostion in favour of the other you get the same answer, nothing is not a thing and is therefore unequal and therefore cannot be dealt with in the same way as you would treat a thing.

QED

 

Therefore

The English Language owns Mathematics.

QED

[Retech]

Anyway.

0=0

0*2=0

0*5=0

 

Therefore

(0*2)+(0*2)=0*5

 

Thus

(0/0*2)+(0/0*2)=(0/0*5) < Still dividing by 0

 

Thus

2+2=5 < Cannot deduce this

 

Therefore

Despite almost 4000 years development, human mathematics still fails at a basic level.

QED

 

 

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Except that only humans fail in mathematics. :)

 

Let us replace those numbers with variables

 

(1/X) + (1/X) = (1/Y)

 

An example of what could be true

 

(1/4) + (1/4) = (1/2)

 

This does not mean

4 + 4 = 2

 

Now you could say that what you did was divide 0 by something, but like I said earlier in the post, you can't divide by 0! You're trying to put a logical law into mathematics, which is why it doesn't work.

[The_Mather1]

If what you said was entirely true Archi, then we wouldn't be able to reach as far as we have, the most important discovery/invention man has made was the number 0 or zero, without it we'd never been able to count, calculate, program or even be.

 

Zero is the equivalent of nothing, yes, but nothing is the most important thing, without nothing there'd be no vacuum, no space between atoms, not anything.

 

Although in that excact context pure zero is invalid.

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(0/0*2)+(0/0*2)=(0/0*5) < Still dividing by 0

 

Thus

2+2=5 < Cannot deduce this

 

Its a simplification. If you divide anything by itself you cancel it. Elementantary rule of mathematics.

In algebraci terms... x*y=x*y

If you then divide both sides by y you get x=x

 

Thus the orginal statement cancles to thte final statement.

 

Its a fairly common principle in mathematics.

 

But in algebraic terms...

 

(x-x)x=(x-x)(x+x)=0

Then divide by x-x to simplify.

x=x+x

Then divide by x

1=2

[Retech]

You're still dividing by 0.

 

(X-X) = 0, thus you cannot divide by it. Your entire statement is invalidated

[archimage_a]

?

I am not dividing by 0 I am dividing by (x-x)

Just because (x-x) happens to mean 0 means nothing...since it is cancling, which, again, is elementary mathematics.

[Retech]

It does mean something if for all values of x, (x-x) = 0. It basically means that you're sneaking in a divide by 0 somewhere, which is a common fallacy in most proofs.

 

So let's go with your equation now.

 

(0)x = 0(2x) = 0 True

 

Divide by 0

 

x = 2x = 0 (Only true in cases where x = 0)

[archimage_a]

Then divide by x....

1=2=0/x(or just 0)

Since your equation is 1x=2x=0(or 0x)

 

That is where mathematics falls down...That was my point.

[The_Mather1]

Something divided by zero is both nought and infinite, the end!

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You can't have something that is two things... Mathematics forbids it!!

 

Therefore mathematics is either wrong or wrong

Thus I win!

QED

[The_Mather1]

Nought and infinite are but the same, nought is what is what can be found in an infinite nothingness, thus the answer is only one thing, yet two at the same time

[Retech]

I disagree with Mather's position...so I win!

[archimage_a]

Infinaty=sideways 8

Nought=0

 

Different things