mujammil Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 Hey, Just a quick question, so far i have done 121 TD's solos and havn't got anything as of yet and i was wondering if i should be taking a RoW or not. Currently i use a RoL :P and i have heard many arguments about whether or not to use a RoW but i would like to find out your opinions aswell. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runoilija92 Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 if you're that experienced you probably wont die right? useless RoL < RoW. Altho archer/zerker/warrior ring could be better. Tbh, i never use RoL anywhere, RoL is for [kitties] :< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mughinn Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 i heard row lowers your chances for claws, though i can't prove it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mujammil Posted August 3, 2009 Author Share Posted August 3, 2009 i heard row lowers your chances for claws, though i can't prove it Thats what i heard aswell hence i'm interested with your views :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mughinn Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 i'd recommend something that boosts your stats, that would help killing them faster, though you could try and wear a row Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troacctid Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 i heard row lowers your chances for claws, though i can't prove it Nah, that's bull. It'll do what it says on the label: increase the odds of getting a rare drop. Read my blog | Follow me on Twitter | Track my XP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judobreaker Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 i heard row lowers your chances for claws, though i can't prove it Nah, that's bull. It'll do what it says on the label: increase the odds of getting a rare drop. I second this. :P If thou consider the possessions of an enemy to be like a roulette wheel, then the 'rare' items so coveted by players are located on a second roulette wheel, that will only be spun shouldst thou roll a specific number on the first wheel. The ring of wealth affects not the number which thou may achieve upon the first wheel, but should thou gain the precise number to allow thee access to the second, the ring will make thy chances of gaining an object on that second roulette wheel all the greater. My guide: Ring of Wealth explained 8 Dragon Boots (885 kills, 1/111, with RoW) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mujammil Posted August 3, 2009 Author Share Posted August 3, 2009 I understand the above posts but i hear shards are rarer than claws, therefore if i used a RoW and were to get claws, i'd get a shard instead. Hence i'm confused :shock: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troacctid Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 I understand the above posts but i hear shards are rarer than claws, therefore if i used a RoW and were to get claws, i'd get a shard instead. Hence i'm confused :shock: I think we can say with some confidence that the ring of wealth will not hurt your chances of getting rare drops. Guthix's little roulette wheel analogy is cryptic, but typically, we interpret the "wheel" as having slots that are blank (meaning your rare drop turns out to be a drop of nothing). The ring of wealth would most likely replace those blank slots, or else it would replace a lesser rare drop like a runite bar. Again, we don't know exactly how the ring of wealth works, but we can assume it does what it's supposed to do. Read my blog | Follow me on Twitter | Track my XP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayOxide Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 If it ups the chance of a dragon piece it should up the chance of claws too, so why not? Without a RoW it would be the same.. just with crappier drops slightly more often. I dont need a siggy no moar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonewall337 Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 230 kills without a ROW= 4 armor pieces 230 kills with a ROW= 1 pair of dragon claws. That was my luck. I've heard from numerous friends who also hunt TDS that wearing a ROW is a good idea. [hide=Drops]Araxxor Eye x1 Leg pieces x2GWD: 5000 Addy bar Steam B Staff x3 Z Spear x6 Sara. Hilt x2 Bandos Hilt x2 (LS, Solo)SS x6 (1 LS)Tormented Demons: Shard x6 Slice x5 Claws x9 Limbs x3DKS: Archer x21 Warrior x31 Berserker x30 Axe x51[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggiwhplar Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 It'll increase your chances of getting a ruined piece of dragon metal. I've gotten 5 claws within 1k kills along with 5 ruined dragon metal pieces. I got 3 ruined dragon metal pieces before getting any claws - I was wearing RoW at the time. Oddly, right after switching to archers ring I got 2 claws within the next 50 kills haha. Granted, since it's pretty much impossible to test drop rates without killing dozens of thousands, you can only rely on what Jagex has said in the past. Jagex confirmed that ruined dragon metal pieces are indeed rarer than dragon claws. Furthermore, Jagex always intended the ruined dragon metal pieces to be more valuable than dragon claws. Thus, it only makes sense that the ring of wealth will only increase your chances of getting ruined dragon metal instead of dragon claws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judobreaker Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 It increases both the chance of getting Dragon Claws and the chance of getting Ruined Armor drops as they are both considered rare items... My guide: Ring of Wealth explained 8 Dragon Boots (885 kills, 1/111, with RoW) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphi Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 RoW does NOT lower your chances of a pair of claws, it actually increases them. Okay, dragon lump alch value is 18k, claws are 81k. I hope you all know the two wheel drop rate theory? Okay, the ring of wealth does not help you get onto the second "Rare" wheel, but it increases the chances of getting a more valuable drop once you are on the wheel. Now, since it determines the value with its alch value, basic logic dictates that the ring of wealth increases the chances of getting dragon claws. Why not use it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilovecardj Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 that wheel picture is wrong as jagex stated that RoW doesnt affect visage drops :P Dragon Drops: 80+ boots, 7 med, 3 skirt, 2 left half, 2 Spear, 2 2hSlayer: 30+ whips, 4 Bows, 1 Mask, 3 Granite Legs, 1 Visage (Wyverns)Notable GWD Splits: Bandos Tassets: 12, Bandos Chest: 11, Bandos Hilt: 2Proud Slayer of 99 Att/Str/Def/HP/Range/Summoning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oropher Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 i heard row lowers your chances for claws, though i can't prove it 5 claws 1 lump - all with row. Retired High Leader of the Great TitansDK: Dragon axe x55, Zerker x40, Warrior x44GWD: Bandos hilt x2,Bandos plate x8,Bandos tassets x3, Bandos boots x 2, Armadyl helm x2, Armadyl hilt x1, Saradomin sword x3Dragon drops: d chain x3, d left half x3, d legs x4, d skirt x2, d claws x6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judobreaker Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 that wheel picture is wrong as jagex stated that RoW doesnt affect visage drops :P Oh lol, I must've missed that. xD Anyways, you get the idea. :P My guide: Ring of Wealth explained 8 Dragon Boots (885 kills, 1/111, with RoW) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldailey06 Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 If you're going for drops, use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mujammil Posted August 3, 2009 Author Share Posted August 3, 2009 that wheel picture is wrong as jagex stated that RoW doesnt affect visage drops :P Oh lol, I must've missed that. xD Anyways, you get the idea. :P Thanks for the help guys! Also thank you Judo, didn't relise you made that diagram, must have took you a while :P Off topic: W000 it's my B-Day :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judobreaker Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 that wheel picture is wrong as jagex stated that RoW doesnt affect visage drops :P Oh lol, I must've missed that. xD Anyways, you get the idea. :P Thanks for the help guys! Also thank you Judo, didn't relise you made that diagram, must have took you a while :P Off topic: W000 it's my B-Day :P I made it some time ago and have used it to explain how the RoW works since. ^^ I'll change that visage on it to make sure it's correct. xD Gratz on your b-day btw. ;) My guide: Ring of Wealth explained 8 Dragon Boots (885 kills, 1/111, with RoW) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 If you're going for drops, use it. Well I doubt he's there for xp :? I would use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKoolKandy Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 Wow I'm so jelous of all of you, you all sound loaded. Slayer; it's just what I do.Thanks Hugger 88 for the awesome siggy!Click show if you want to see achievements.Achievments: Maxed/Comp'd 7th of August 2012. 120 Dungeoneering sometime early december 2011. 99 Slayer achieved October 22nd, 2010. 99 Prayer achieved September 99 18th 2010. Summoning achieved September 14th 2010. 99 Defence achieved May 8th 2010. 99 Constituton achieved April 24th 2010. 99 Attack achieved on January 29th 2010 at 8:00 PM. Questpoint Cape on August 30th 2009.99 Strength (11:47 P.M. August 17 2009). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judobreaker Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 Ok, I've had this idea for a while and this topic made me actually do it. :P I've written a guide on how the Ring of Wealth works. :D viewtopic.php?f=113&t=805097 Hope it helps you guys. ^^ My guide: Ring of Wealth explained 8 Dragon Boots (885 kills, 1/111, with RoW) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transcript80 Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 Are you a believer? I always use a ROW when a monster has a "rare" drop (whip, d bow, etc). It's all odd at the end of the day. Some people are lucky, and the don't "need" a ROW, and get a lot of rare drops. And, by the way, the draconic visage is considered a "bonus drop" (stated somewhere by JaGEx) and this is why a ROW doesn't affect the chance to get it. The same applies to the animal heads (the ones you can get stuffed and place at your POH) and some other stuff. Other data was removed when acoount got hacked... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judobreaker Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 Great, that's what I needed to know. Bonus drops. :D My guide: Ring of Wealth explained 8 Dragon Boots (885 kills, 1/111, with RoW) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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