Shootin' And Guns!

[Kriegsmier]

Honestly, when you shoot the M16 as much as I have and as you do in the military you become very tired of it and try anything to get out of going to the range. The first few times is great, and the first time putting it on burst mode is great...but after that it wears off. I'm actually going to a night fire range tonight with night vision goggles and laser sights, hooray for no sleep.

 

 

 

I'd consider the M16/M4 a plinker too, especially after shooting a .762 caliber weapon. Its basically a .223 caliber bullet and much like a .22.

 

 

 

Plinker or not what a lot of people fail to realize is that a small caliber will do serious damage and can easily equal that of a larger caliber if you get the right shot. Small bullets will basically ricochet around the body cavity while a larger round will just cause straight trauma to one area. The .22 doesn't have knock down power but it can be very deadly. I call it a plinker because i personally prefer larger calibers but that does not mean that the .22 bullet is useless. There was an incident a while back where a South Carolina State Trooper got into a gunfight with a guy on the side of the interstate, shot the guy 5-6 times, the suspect then turns his .22 pistol on the trooper hits him a couple times in the vest and sneaks one round right into the armpit area of the trooper where the vest does not cover, Trooper runs 20ft collapses and dies. I've seen the video and it is not a good one.

[indy500fan]

Did you see the picture I posted? My .22 is actually called Plinkster. Yeah they aren't a very large caliber, but they shoot accurately enough for me and you can pick up 500 bullets for $25.

[Kriegsmier]

Very true. .22s are very cheap.

[sarg1010]

I agree! I prefer higher calibers. Love shooting .40 and .45 pistol, also .30-06 for Rifle.

 

 

 

.22's are plinkers!

 

My dad was making fun of me. He was a combat engineer in the Marines, so he got to shoot all sorts of [cabbage] - tanks a couple times during his time in the service,

 

 

Man I hope I get to fire/drive a tank just ONCE in my life. Even if it was only for 10 mins or so, it would be so cool =P~

 

I've been asking my friend about his collection of guns and his gun dealer, and I'm sort of interested in them now. Is it true a class-3 license can cost like... 2 grand? For fully automatics that is.

[Lenticular_J]

Why would you want a fully automatic? You run through ammunition so fast, a civilian really has no use for it. I mean, rapatatat and you're done.

 

 

 

Now, if it's just collecting, I think that's fine, because a lot of automatic weapons are the bee's knees.

[Kriegsmier]

Very true, its quite expensive to obtain and feed a Class III weapon (machine guns). But it can be done, kinda depends on what state you are in. Some state prohibit Class III weapons all together, some allow them but make them impossible to get with loopholes, some are like sure go ahead.

 

 

 

The local gun shops should have all the paperwork you need. Its actually a common misconception that you need an actual Class III license/permit to have them. This is untrue. That license is only needed to buy and sell those weapons as a business. However you would still be required to register and go through the paperwork for the gun with the correct state and national agencies. And of course, it must be legal in the state you live in to start. Legally, you can only own a true Machine Gun as a regular joe shmo if it was registered prior to May 19, 1986. Otherwise you would have to be an actual business (or have the licenses to sell firearms as a business) to own Machine Guns of any date.

 

 

 

Basically as long as you can pass the background checks, and the certain gun is already registered under the NFA (National Firearms Act) as well as with ATF you can own it. You will probably be required to submit a photograph and fingerprints with the background check for these weapons.

 

 

 

If you buy it from a dealer out of state it will cost you $200 just to get it transferred to your state.

 

 

 

Its a very complicated process, even I have a hard time understanding some parts of it. The best option would go to your local gun shop and talk with employees there. Sometimes gun shops will even hold firings of these weapons so customers can come out for the day and shoot, varies per shop.

 

 

 

http://www.recguns.com/Sources/IIF1.html

[magmaguard3]

An SKS is a nice gun. I suggest wearing ear plugs, but then again you might wanna wear ear plugs while shooting any gun lol.

[Huta]

I'm thinking about picking up a 9mm for sporting, any suggestions?

[Legosimx]

I guess you could say I'm a cliche, .22's and 12 gauge's at Boy Scout camp :roll:

 

 

 

I have shot my uncle's side arm, only one. I'm really not sure if that's legal though :?

 

 

 

According to Uncle James, on the topic of .556 to .762, the "knock down power" is really not an issue, because someone who gets shot by one of the bajillions of AR15 variants, it not going to be an issue for much longer, at least that's what he said he's seen oversees when I asked.

[Wisp]

[Automatic Weapons]

 

I know one person with that license and all, he said it took him forever to figure it all out and go through it all, but he has a collection so he thinks it was worth it.

 

Not many crimes are done with automatic weapons, other than organized crime, which gets there stuff illegally.

[Lenticular_J]

I'm thinking about picking up a 9mm for sporting, any suggestions?

 

You might actually want to start with a revolver. My brother-in-law has a Glock something or other (I can't remember, haven't seen it in a year - guess it might be a 17) automatic, and it cost about $600 so far (he shoots at least once a week though, the gun and case and all were only $350 I believe). He has a revolver though, an old police .32, and he says a revolver should definitely be someone's first pistol if they just plan on shooting targets.

 

 

 

All hearsay though, I'm sure Kriegs knows more. Pistols aren't my knowledge.

[Kriegsmier]

I personally prefer semi autos to revolvers. I think they are easier to use for a novice shooter. Beretta makes the M9, very popular and currently choice of the US Military. Glock of course makes some quality pistols and has a 9mm version, which is used by a lot of law enforcement agencies. Its the G17, it has the capacity of 17 rounds. They also have a compact and sub compact version in 9mm caliber. Springfield has some nice pistols that are on par with Glocks now, their XD series. XD Service model 4" is a 9mm. 16 round capacity stock.

 

 

 

Other then those i'd look at either a Taurus or Ruger brand pistol.

[Orpheus]

About a week ago I went shootin' with an AR15 and Beretta M9. I personally find handling an M9 much easier. For my first time firing it, I actually, on a 5-point target, got a 47/50 score with 10 shots.

 

 

 

Didn't expect it to be so loud either.

[gauper_kid]

I've never owned a gun, nor shot one. Even though, where I live, everyone seems to like hunting.

[Hugger_88]

My dads a professional shooter, he shoots compition pistol with ALOT of famous people. I have pictures of me with Todd Jarret, Rebecca Jones, and even Gunny from Mail Call.

 

 

 

I have alot more guns than alot of people would dream of having. i dont find it wierd but Im sure some people would, but I dont because ive been around it my whole entire life. hell I sleep beside a 12 guage

[sparky1_2007]

once i turn 21, im going to start saving for a Beretta m92fs & a kimber 1911 custom 2 :)

 

 

 

most amazing handguns ever and im going to get a CCW permit too ;)

[Kriegsmier]

Bump! ;) Heres my current day to day carrier....always have at least 1 full magazine on me at all times.

 

 

 

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[indy500fan]

I'm looking for a handgun that uses .22 LR bullets. Is the Walther P22 my best bet? I can get one for a little over $400 and I don't want to spend more than that, hell I don't even really want to spend that much.

[Me_Hate_Libs]

I was taught to use a shotgun by my grandfather when I was younger. When we figured out I wasn't going to grow any taller than 5 feet, we decided to go with something a little smaller, lol.

 

 

 

So these days I have a little .22 Derringer that my grandfather bought from Bill Jacksons, local sporting place, about 20 years ago. Works great. I keep it in my purse. I won't kill someone with it, but a well place shot to the testicles should probably work as well.

[Kriegsmier]

I own a Walther P22 Indy. Good little gun. Easy to handle and shoot, hardly any kick to it. Fun to play with. You could probably score one for anywhere from $350-400. Depends on where you go and what comes with it. I've seen some P22 packages go up to $500, but again...depends on the accessories with it. Mine looks like this with a Carbon Fiber stock:

 

 

 

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A shot to the testicles really won't do much other then cause some pain. If thats your plan then so be it, but if someone where hyped up on drugs they might not even feel it.

[nerdboyxxx]

I'd love to go shooting one day...but we have strict gun laws Down Under after the Port Arthur massacre.

[H2PM]

I own a Walther P22 Indy. Good little gun. Easy to handle and shoot, hardly any kick to it. Fun to play with. You could probably score one for anywhere from $350-400. Depends on where you go and what comes with it. I've seen some P22 packages go up to $500, but again...depends on the accessories with it. Mine looks like this with a Carbon Fiber stock:

 

 

 

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A shot to the testicles really won't do much other then cause some pain. If thats your plan then so be it, but if someone where hyped up on drugs they might not even feel it.

 

I believe thats what 007 uses in Goldeneye. And that one guy who killed two people that had one. Except for one.

[indy500fan]

That's the one I will probably go with then. I'll probably have to get whatever my local gun store has in stock, but I am hoping they have non-shiny black one.