Silverion = Andrew Gower.

 

 

 

Just a little known fun fact for those that aren't in the know.

 

Or not so much. :?

 

I guess you're not in the group of cool. :roll:

 

 

 

Also, Pure_Mage; Gonna have to reference you back to my post on page 6.

 

We're not going to use display names at least initially because it complicates things for our staff/mods in relation to keeping track of users.

 

We're not going to use display names at least initially because it complicates things for our staff/mods in relation to keeping track of users.

 

I've used it before with a large sum of users and it's not complicated or hard at all. Especially with the warn log system. But not using it in the beginning is a good point, just hoping it's not going to be blocked out for silly reasons as it being complicated when it takes four seconds to find out who the person is and their history, regardless of display name.

Just thought, does this mean a well earned, rare, day off for the Admins?

Just thought, does this mean a well earned, rare, day off for the Admins?

 

 

 

For the admins that can't access the forum while it's converting yes. For the rest of us there's prep work to be done for the new software. :?

IPB 3 is really grate software I use it on my website and I will take it over vbulleting phpbb or anything els any day. Great choice!

Finally, thank god.

 

 

 

After that I'll actually start using these forums :P

Wow, no more PHPbb, I never thought i'd see this day. Sounds exciting :)

 

 

 

*back to lurker mode

I've always liked this forum as it is. Ah well, it wouldn't be changed if there was no reason to change it.

IPB is no better than phpBB.

 

Debatable. For most users, there will be relatively little difference between both, just where profile options and sig options are and stuff like that. For administrators, phpBB and Invision both have features that the other doesn't, such as Invision's new separation of admin privileges (some can be restricted to the themes interface, some can get full admin privileges, etc.) But both are as easy to install, as easy to administrate, as easy to add MODs to... That's all that counts.

 

 

 

IPB may be a little better than phpBB, but I think I worded this wrong - I meant for it to be combined with my second statement, if that makes sense to you.

 

 

 

If you want good forum software, you write your own.

 

If you want good forum software, you use something with a good policy regarding patches and a security-conscious programming team. You don't want your forum to get hacked by some noob who thinks he's cool because he can URL hack his way into &action=delete for all threads... and you mistakenly only hid the &action=delete button from forum threads, and didn't bother to check for permissions in the delete script. While I don't think Tip.it's web staff is that bad at security, they're just too few people to provide the needed code oversight. phpBB and Invision, on the other hand, have dealt with these security issues and provide patches quite frequently. Now would you say that using phpBB or Invision is that bad?

 

 

 

Although Tip.It's programmers do not have the skills for such a task, what I said still stands true.

 

 

 

3rd party stuff is too difficult to integrate into existing systems. Selling software based on a database that wasn't designed by the organization using it generally tends not to work very well.

 

Tip.it Forums and Tip.it are pretty much completely separate, except for Tip.it Times article and discussion links (which link into the forum) and Community Events, RuneScape News and all that stuff from the front page. The only thing for Tip.it to do, as I see it, is to change the links to point to the new URLs. Hell, they could make /viewtopic.php?p=123456 still work with some mod_rewrite magic.

 

 

 

All you did was reinforce what I say. Integrating 3rd party stuff into your own systems is usually difficult, unless they are designed with that in mind. phpBB (and probably IPB - I haven't used it) don't really fulfill that. As a simple example, creating a phpBB user account is a bit messy outside of phpBB itself. In system designed with integration in mind, there would be an Account class with simple methods for adding, banning and deleting users, among other functions. It should be one line of code to add an account, by default. Neither phpBB (and I highly doubt IPB either) fulfill that.

 

 

 

Also, IPB is written in PHP just like phpBB, so it's still junk. Weak-typed languages are an invitation for trouble in advanced systems.

 

If PHP is junk, why do so many Web sites use it? (Many of these sites are even phpBB and Invision forums! Also includes Wordpress, which is written in PHP.)

 

Good naming conventions for variables can give you some insight into their types without needing to think much. Would you think $numTopics is a string, or an int? What about $userMessage? Cases where you have a variable named $topic can also be disambiguated by using $topicID or $topicTitle. Now, which is a string, and which is an int?

 

 

 

Type-based Hungarian notation has been hated for a long time now. Most people will intelligently discourage its use. If 'programming' was a standard, Hungarian notation would be deprecated. You see, when Hungarian notation was invented, the wrong word was used - "type" never referred to the data type, but the KIND of data. I recommend reading this article: http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/Wrong.html If it's junk, why do so many people use it? It being junk is my personal opinion - I like strongly-typed languages because they leave a 0% chance of unintended incompatible type conversion. If you pay extremely close attention to what you are doing, you can achieve the same thing with a weak-typed language, but there's always that chance. And arguments could be made that strongly-typed object oriented languages (C#, Java) are more productive than weak-typed scripting languages (PHP, Perl). PHP is so widely used because it's open source, easy to use and widely supported. My websites are written in PHP, too. But I'd still rather write them in an strongly-typed object-oriented language like C#. It's faster and more productive. Plus, interpreted languages are slower. And Linq-to-SQL in C# is a gift from the Great Computer (our equivalent of God).

 

 

 

Also, lollables at friendly URLs. Just append &title=Title-of-your-thread to the end of every URL. The integrated index.php?/topic/xxx_Title-blah-blurgh/ looks pretty stupid compared to index.php?id=xxx&title=Title-blah-blurgh It's only for looks anyways, the title should not even be read by the software.

 

I believe you're horribly misled here; I think you're thinking of Wordpress and its long SEO links, such as /blog/2009/09/03/how-to-make-money-in-runescape-12345/, which does not have anything to do with either phpBB or Invision.

 

 

 

Recent Invision software has links like /topic/123456/, where 123456 is the Topic ID, or /topic/123456/2/ where 2 is the page you want.

 

edit: After seeing a link to a thread from an Invision Power Board forum, which seems to use slightly different software than what I'm used to, they do have the title in them, and trying to remove the title from the URL makes the forum go back to the Index. Myyyy bad! Though the title itself is indeed not used by the software, you could just as easily go to /topic/123456-X and it'll stil give you the right thread.

 

 

 

Removing the title redirects to the index. See? That is bad. As I said, titles should be semantic only. The software cares not whether &title=blah is present, only id=blah. The reason 123456 does not work on IPB, but 123456-X does, is because of poor regex in their mod_rewrite.

Although Tip.It's programmers do not have the skills for such a task, what I said still stands true.

 

 

 

Thanks.

 

 

 

All you did was reinforce what I say. Integrating 3rd party stuff into your own systems is usually difficult, unless they are designed with that in mind. phpBB (and probably IPB - I haven't used it) don't really fulfill that. As a simple example, creating a phpBB user account is a bit messy outside of phpBB itself. In system designed with integration in mind, there would be an Account class with simple methods for adding, banning and deleting users, among other functions. It should be one line of code to add an account, by default. Neither phpBB (and I highly doubt IPB either) fulfill that.

 

 

 

// Relevant Files

require_once( $forum_path . '\initdata.php' );

require_once( IPS_ROOT_PATH . 'sources/base/ipsRegistry.php' );

require_once( IPS_ROOT_PATH . 'sources/base/ipsController.php' );

// Initialise

$this->ipbRegistry    = ipsRegistry::instance();

$this->ipbRegistry->init();

// Create

IPSMember::create( array(

                       'members'            => array(

                                                    'email'                    => $email,

                                                    'name'                        => $name,

                                                    'members_l_username'        => strtolower($name),

                                                    'members_display_name'        => $name,

                                                    'members_l_display_name'    => strtolower($name),

                                                    'joined'                    => time(),

                                                   ),

                       'profile_portal'    => array(

                                                   ),

                       'pfields_content'    => array(

                                                   ),

               )        );

 

 

 

Done.

 

 

 

Type-based Hungarian notation has been hated for a long time now. Most people will intelligently discourage its use. If 'programming' was a standard, Hungarian notation would be deprecated. You see, when Hungarian notation was invented, the wrong word was used - "type" never referred to the data type, but the KIND of data. I recommend reading this article: http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/Wrong.html If it's junk, why do so many people use it? It being junk is my personal opinion - I like strongly-typed languages because they leave a 0% chance of unintended incompatible type conversion. If you pay extremely close attention to what you are doing, you can achieve the same thing with a weak-typed language, but there's always that chance. And arguments could be made that strongly-typed object oriented languages (C#, Java) are more productive than weak-typed scripting languages (PHP, Perl). PHP is so widely used because it's open source, easy to use and widely supported. My websites are written in PHP, too. But I'd still rather write them in an strongly-typed object-oriented language like C#. It's faster and more productive. Plus, interpreted languages are slower. And Linq-to-SQL in C# is a gift from the Great Computer (our equivalent of God).

 

 

 

As you said, your opinion, clearly not the opinion of the majority of web software developers out there though.

 

 

 

Removing the title redirects to the index. See? That is bad. As I said, titles should be semantic only. The software cares not whether &title=blah is present, only id=blah. The reason 123456 does not work on IPB, but 123456-X does, is because of poor regex in their mod_rewrite.

 

 

 

If you wish to go directly to a topic without need for a title you can use index.php?showtopic=12345 which will in turn direct you to the correct "SEO" URL.

Although Tip.It's programmers do not have the skills for such a task, what I said still stands true.

 

What is true? That security through others' lack of knowledge of your custom forum software Just Works? Security through obscurity is the worst form of security. All IT security experts know this. Tip.it's rather few coders would have to throw forum software around using hack upon hack upon hack to make deadlines, not even knowing how stuff works at one point; the hacks would make the server quite vulnerable to attack and call involuntarily inefficient SQL queries which would slow everything down to a crawl, amounting to an easy DoS hole. A third-party popular forum package gets used much more, and if someone from one forum discovers a vuln, everyone else can get the patch. Further, you haven't tried to prove your point of view on this subject, just to say "what I say still stands true".

 

 

 

All you did was reinforce what I say. Integrating 3rd party stuff into your own systems is usually difficult, unless they are designed with that in mind. phpBB (and probably IPB - I haven't used it) don't really fulfill that.

 

(Agreed) This still doesn't change the fact that Tip.it could make old links work with mod_rewrite, however.

 

 

 

As a simple example, creating a phpBB user account is a bit messy outside of phpBB itself. In system designed with integration in mind, there would be an Account class with simple methods for adding, banning and deleting users, among other functions. It should be one line of code to add an account, by default. Neither phpBB (and I highly doubt IPB either) fulfill that.

 

(Not enough knowledge in this area) See the code posted in Pure_MageUK's response.

 

 

 

Type-based Hungarian notation has been hated for a long time now. Most people will intelligently discourage its use.

 

Bad interpretation on your part. In my reply, $numTopics is not $iTopics, $topicID is not $iTopicID, $userMessage is not $strUserMessage, $sUserMessage, or even the messy C-style lpszUserMessage. If you read carefully, I encourage active use of disambiguating affixes for data elements that say what the data is. $topic may be an ID, a string containing the topic's title or contents, but $topicID is clear and concise. It does not have the datatype in the name.

 

 

 

If it's junk, why do so many people use it? It being junk is my personal opinion - I like strongly-typed languages because they leave a 0% chance of unintended incompatible type conversion.

 

And logic errors occur in any language. PHP has the dot operator and the plus operator, for concisely conveying whether you want to always concatenate strings ("2" . "2" === "22") or to add things -- whatever type they have -- ("2" + "2" === 4). Java is a strongly-typed language but it has really bad semantics with its plus operator to make strings, especially for char variables:

 

"a" + 'a' == 'a' + "a" == "aa" (expected)

'a' + 'a' == 194 (unintuitive)

"2" + "2" + "2" + "2" == "2222"

"2" + "2" + 2 + 2 == "2222" (unintuitive)

2 + 2 + "2" + "2" == "422" (unintuitive and inconsistent with above)

 

PHP has:

 

"a" + 'a' === 'a' + "a" === 'a' . 'a' === NULL (cannot add 'a', not a number)

"a" . 'a' === 'a' . "a" === 'a' . 'a' === "aa" (concatenation)

"2" + "2" + "2" + "2" === 8 (addition)

"2" . "2" . "2" . "2" === "2222" (concatenation)

 

and all the 2 + "2" and 2 . "2" follow with the pure string versions. It's really easy to have unintended or unintuitive string conversion in Java, which is a strongly-typed language. You may argue that I should have used "2" + "2" + (2 + 2) in my Java code to form "224", but it's still not that great.

 

 

 

Plus, interpreted languages are slower.

 

Java, CIL and PHP are all interpreted languages. Java and CIL just start with bytecode, with PHP starting with the script. Zend over PHP is fine.

 

 

 

And Linq-to-SQL in C# is a gift from the Great Computer (our equivalent of God).

 

(Gives no meaningful information, appeal to belief)

 

 

 

Removing the title redirects to the index. See? That is bad. As I said, titles should be semantic only.

 

File a feature enhancement request with the Invision guys, it's not worth talking about here on TiF. I have no experience with recent Invision software, but if it's as configurable as phpBB is, it should have an option to accept non-SEO links already. It looks like both of us haven't used recent Invision Power Board though, so can we please stop arguing technical merits?

 

 

 

side note: lol @ Pure_MageUK saying just "Thanks." to "Tip.It's programmers do not have the skills for such a task"

Although Tip.It's programmers do not have the skills for such a task, what I said still stands true.

 

 

 

Thanks.

 

 

 

Well, from what I've seen... :?

 

 

 

All you did was reinforce what I say. Integrating 3rd party stuff into your own systems is usually difficult, unless they are designed with that in mind. phpBB (and probably IPB - I haven't used it) don't really fulfill that. As a simple example, creating a phpBB user account is a bit messy outside of phpBB itself. In system designed with integration in mind, there would be an Account class with simple methods for adding, banning and deleting users, among other functions. It should be one line of code to add an account, by default. Neither phpBB (and I highly doubt IPB either) fulfill that.

 

 

 

// Relevant Files

require_once( $forum_path . '\initdata.php' );

require_once( IPS_ROOT_PATH . 'sources/base/ipsRegistry.php' );

require_once( IPS_ROOT_PATH . 'sources/base/ipsController.php' );

// Initialise

$this->ipbRegistry    = ipsRegistry::instance();

$this->ipbRegistry->init();

// Create

IPSMember::create( array(

                       'members'            => array(

                                                    'email'                    => $email,

                                                    'name'                        => $name,

                                                    'members_l_username'        => strtolower($name),

                                                    'members_display_name'        => $name,

                                                    'members_l_display_name'    => strtolower($name),

                                                    'joined'                    => time(),

                                                   ),

                       'profile_portal'    => array(

                                                   ),

                       'pfields_content'    => array(

                                                   ),

               )        );

 

 

 

Done.

 

 

 

Not too bad, but still a bit messy - PHP can't really do much better, I suppose. Also, creating accounts is just one tiny bit of integration. Think of it this way: Jagex wants to use phpBB/IPB for its forums. They need entirely separate installations for RuneScape, MechScape and FunOrb. They need to integrate user names, IDs, account existence, banning, display names, and all sorts of other data and properties. That would be quite a task for a system of that type, which is what I am referring to. For Tip.It you pretty much use it standalone, with very minimal integration into the main site - and no, static links do not count.

 

 

 

Also, code.

 

 

 

DatabaseContext db = new DatabaseContext();



try

{

// If this user doesn't already exist...

if (db.Profiles.SingleOrDefault(p => p.UserName == username) == null)

{

	using (TransactionScope ts = new TransactionScope())

	{

		var profile = new Profile();

		profile.LanguageID = 1;

		profile.FirstName = firstName;

		profile.MiddleName = !string.IsNullOrEmpty(middleName) ? middleName : null;

		profile.LastName = lastName;

		profile.BirthDate = birthDate.Value;

		profile.Gender = (byte)gender;

		profile.TimeZone = timeZone;

		profile.EmailAddressInfo = null;

		profile.UserName = username;

		profile.Password = password;

		profile.PIN = integerPin.Value;

		profile.LastLoginAttempt = DateTime.UtcNow;

		db.Profiles.InsertOnSubmit(profile);



		var emailInfo = new EmailAddressInfo();

		emailInfo.EmailAddress = emailAddress;

		emailInfo.Profile = profile;

		db.EmailAddressInfos.InsertOnSubmit(emailInfo);



		db.SubmitChanges();



		profile.EmailAddressInfo = emailInfo;



		db.SubmitChanges();



		ts.Complete();

	}



	this.errorDisplay.Attributes["class"] = "infobox";

	this.errorDisplay.InnerHtml = string.Format(CultureInfo.CurrentCulture, Resources.Resources.CreateAccountSuccessful, emailAddress);

	this.loginbox.Visible = false;

}

else

{

	this.errorDisplay.InnerHtml = string.Format(CultureInfo.CurrentCulture, Resources.Resources.CreateAccountUserNameInUse, username);

}

}

catch (SqlException)

{

this.errorDisplay.InnerText = Resources.Resources.CreateAccountFailed;

}

catch (SqlTypeException ex)

{

this.errorDisplay.InnerText = Resources.Resources.CreateAccountFailed;

this.errorDisplay.InnerText += ex.ToString();

}

 

 

 

Type-based Hungarian notation has been hated for a long time now. Most people will intelligently discourage its use. If 'programming' was a standard, Hungarian notation would be deprecated. You see, when Hungarian notation was invented, the wrong word was used - "type" never referred to the data type, but the KIND of data. I recommend reading this article: http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/Wrong.html If it's junk, why do so many people use it? It being junk is my personal opinion - I like strongly-typed languages because they leave a 0% chance of unintended incompatible type conversion. If you pay extremely close attention to what you are doing, you can achieve the same thing with a weak-typed language, but there's always that chance. And arguments could be made that strongly-typed object oriented languages (C#, Java) are more productive than weak-typed scripting languages (PHP, Perl). PHP is so widely used because it's open source, easy to use and widely supported. My websites are written in PHP, too. But I'd still rather write them in an strongly-typed object-oriented language like C#. It's faster and more productive. Plus, interpreted languages are slower. And Linq-to-SQL in C# is a gift from the Great Computer (our equivalent of God).

 

 

 

As you said, your opinion, clearly not the opinion of the majority of web software developers out there though.

 

 

 

The use of PHP, yes. I'm not saying it's not a bad language or that no one should use it, I just prefer type-safe object-oriented languages over it by far, because of their many benefits.

 

 

 

Hungarian notation, no. Linus Torvalds (inventor of Linux), Bjarne Stroustrup (inventor of C++) and Joel Spolsky (a famous software developer) can back me up on that. Bill Gates and/or other well-known Microsoft authorities too.

 

 

 

Removing the title redirects to the index. See? That is bad. As I said, titles should be semantic only. The software cares not whether &title=blah is present, only id=blah. The reason 123456 does not work on IPB, but 123456-X does, is because of poor regex in their mod_rewrite.

 

 

 

If you wish to go directly to a topic without need for a title you can use index.php?showtopic=12345 which will in turn direct you to the correct "SEO" URL.

 

 

 

Hmm. I suppose that is somewhat useful. However, consider this: index.php?showtopic=897607 > index.php?showtopic=897607&title=Jard-Y-Dooku's-Ultimate-Monster-Examine-Guide ...that's fine. However, index.php?showtopic=897607&title=X remains the same, even though it is inaccurate. If we actually check the title and do another redirect to the correct one, that means titles are no longer semantic only. Relying on the

tag for SEO is less problematic.

Well, from what I've seen... :?

 

 

 

What exactly have you seen?...

Well, from what I've seen... :?

 

 

 

What exactly have you seen?...

 

 

 

The Tip.It website is not exactly designed as best it could be - it's evident in its coding and functionality. Also, don't come back with "there's more on the sever than just HTML". I know that, but being someone like me, external observation of various things about a system can reveal much about its internals. I'm not trying to be a pain, I'm just constructively criticizing the website from a software engineer's point of view. In fact I will be writing an article on how Tip.It's systems could be improved over the next month or so. Will drafts be kept in the phpBB > IPB switch?

The Tip.It website is not exactly designed as best it could be - it's evident in its coding and functionality. Also, don't come back with "there's more on the sever than just HTML". I know that, but being someone like me, external observation of various things about a system can reveal much about its internals. I'm not trying to be a pain, I'm just constructively criticizing the website from a software engineer's point of view. In fact I will be writing an article on how Tip.It's systems could be improved over the next month or so.

 

 

 

I'm well aware of the shortcomings of the Tip.It website, which was designed back in 2000 or so. You only need look at the footer to see how old it is. I'm also aware that functionality currently doesn't exist where it could, this is generally because of limitations with the current layout or backend coding. I've come on board within the last 18 months and I will admit that I wouldn't have coded a lot of things the way they are myself. That being said, perhaps the reason you're not seeing all that much activity on the site front even though we have coders on staff may indicate that there's something going on which you can't see? Just a thought. :roll: Good luck with your article.

 

 

 

Will drafts be kept in the phpBB > IPB switch?

 

 

 

No.

The Tip.It website is not exactly designed as best it could be - it's evident in its coding and functionality. Also, don't come back with "there's more on the sever than just HTML". I know that, but being someone like me, external observation of various things about a system can reveal much about its internals. I'm not trying to be a pain, I'm just constructively criticizing the website from a software engineer's point of view. In fact I will be writing an article on how Tip.It's systems could be improved over the next month or so.

 

 

 

I'm well aware of the shortcomings of the Tip.It website, which was designed back in 2000 or so. You only need look at the footer to see how old it is. I'm also aware that functionality currently doesn't exist where it could, this is generally because of limitations with the current layout or backend coding. I've come on board within the last 18 months and I will admit that I wouldn't have coded a lot of things the way they are myself. That being said, perhaps the reason you're not seeing all that much activity on the site front even though we have coders on staff may indicate that there's something going on which you can't see? Just a thought. :roll: Good luck with your article.

 

 

 

Will drafts be kept in the phpBB > IPB switch?

 

 

 

No.

 

 

 

I'm sure you have stuff going on we don't know about, but it's nothing near what I am envisioning and going to detail in my article. Hmm. Funniest thing, you could view my draft if you liked. >.> Best I store it off your servers for that reason and the fact they'll be deleted. :D

I smell nerd rage.

I smell nerd rage.

 

 

 

I smell someone so desperate to let everyone know how smart he is regarding coding that he'll offer his irrelevant and useless opinion while describing it as "constructive criticism" and then tell everyone he's writing an article which is labeled as "more constructive criticism" when in reality that article is nothing more than a giant sign that screams "LOOK! I KNOW STUFF ABOUT CODING! I SHALL PROVE IT BY TELLING EVERYONE ABOUT THEIR OWN FLAWS, WHICH IN TURN MAKES ME LOOK BETTER! ADMIRE MEEEEEEEEE!"

 

 

 

Oh, I also happen to smell someone who is so desperate for the aforementioned attention that he'll even start his own site with a color scheme patterned directly on tip.it's.

 

 

 

My god, I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'd rather have devnull in forum updates and suggestions than this chucklehead. At least he was well-intentioned.

I'm sure you have stuff going on we don't know about, but it's nothing near what I am envisioning and going to detail in my article. Hmm. Funniest thing, you could view my draft if you liked. >.> Best I store it off your servers for that reason and the fact they'll be deleted. :D

 

 

 

While we're being critical about things it only took me 15 seconds to find that if I try to list a directory on your website ( http://www.runeuniverse.us/tip.it/ ) for example, all of the paths are broken in the error page which results in the user being stuck in an endless loop where no links work and there's no styling.

I smell nerd rage.

 

 

 

I smell someone so desperate to let everyone know how smart he is regarding coding that he'll offer his irrelevant and useless opinion while describing it as "constructive criticism" and then tell everyone he's writing an article which is labeled as "more constructive criticism" when in reality that article is nothing more than a giant sign that screams "LOOK! I KNOW STUFF ABOUT CODING! I SHALL PROVE IT BY TELLING EVERYONE ABOUT THEIR OWN FLAWS, WHICH IN TURN MAKES ME LOOK BETTER! ADMIRE MEEEEEEEEE!"

 

 

 

Oh, I also happen to smell someone who is so desperate for the aforementioned attention that he'll even start his own site with a color scheme patterned directly on tip.it's.

 

 

 

My god, I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'd rather have devnull in forum updates and suggestions than this chucklehead. At least he was well-intentioned.

 

 

 

I am well intentioned. How about you tell us how it could be done better, then?

 

 

 

I'm sure you have stuff going on we don't know about, but it's nothing near what I am envisioning and going to detail in my article. Hmm. Funniest thing, you could view my draft if you liked. >.> Best I store it off your servers for that reason and the fact they'll be deleted. :D

 

 

 

While we're being critical about things it only took me 15 seconds to find that if I try to list a directory on your website ( http://www.runeuniverse.us/tip.it/ ) for example, all of the paths are broken in the error page which results in the user being stuck in an endless loop where no links work and there's no styling.

 

 

 

Yes, my site is not structured very well, because it dates back to when I first started to learn programming, and I have been too lazy to redo it over the years, so bad coding just piled up.

Anyway, back on topic, no updates to the date of the conversion as of yet. It may end up being early next week rather than late this week, not 100% sure yet.

 

 

 

I smell someone so desperate to let everyone know how smart he is regarding coding that he'll offer his irrelevant and useless opinion while describing it as "constructive criticism" and then tell everyone he's writing an article which is labeled as "more constructive criticism" when in reality that article is nothing more than a giant sign that screams "LOOK! I KNOW STUFF ABOUT CODING! I SHALL PROVE IT BY TELLING EVERYONE ABOUT THEIR OWN FLAWS, WHICH IN TURN MAKES ME LOOK BETTER! ADMIRE MEEEEEEEEE!"

 

 

 

Oh, I also happen to smell someone who is so desperate for the aforementioned attention that he'll even start his own site with a color scheme patterned directly on tip.it's.

 

 

 

My god, I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'd rather have devnull in forum updates and suggestions than this chucklehead. At least he was well-intentioned.

 

 

 

I am well intentioned. How about you tell us how it could be done better, then?

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'd be glad to, buddy!

 

 

 

1) Stop tooting your own "look ma I know how to code" horn by yapping about writing your own forum software because this forum is run by a bunch of volunteers who get paid as much for their hard work as I do to tell you you're an idiot. The fact that they are volunteers (many of whom don't even play Runescape anymore and don't have that link to the forum) means that it is of course a great and feasible idea for them to simply use prewritten forum software.

 

 

 

2) Your nerd rage arguments about how self-written software is much more secure and better organized and blah blah I think I'm going into a coma, right here we go again are also irrelevant because of the nature of the situation- a bunch of volunteers, a not-for-profit forum, the fact that the forum software is prewritten, and the (i'm guessing) insane amount of work that would be required in creating your own board from scratch

 

 

 

3) I'm not normally one of those chumps who thinks that hypocrisy dilutes the strength of the message, but in your case, with a forum that is pretty much an exact clone of tip.it's (right down to the use of phpBB) stinks of "do as I say, not as I do." If your sorry [wagon] is "too lazy" to even create a website that doesn't break every time someone uses it, the idea of you telling everyone here to do the incredible amount of work in writing forum software is nearly funny enough to make me shatter a rib bone.

 

 

 

How about instead of giving us your condescending opinion disguised as "constructive criticism" you go write your own strongly-typed forum software and prove us all morons?

IPB is no better than phpBB.

 

 

 

(and probably IPB - I haven't used it)

 

 

 

Wut.

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I smell someone so desperate to let everyone know how smart he is regarding coding that he'll offer his irrelevant and useless opinion while describing it as "constructive criticism" and then tell everyone he's writing an article which is labeled as "more constructive criticism" when in reality that article is nothing more than a giant sign that screams "LOOK! I KNOW STUFF ABOUT CODING! I SHALL PROVE IT BY TELLING EVERYONE ABOUT THEIR OWN FLAWS, WHICH IN TURN MAKES ME LOOK BETTER! ADMIRE MEEEEEEEEE!"

 

 

 

Oh, I also happen to smell someone who is so desperate for the aforementioned attention that he'll even start his own site with a color scheme patterned directly on tip.it's.

 

 

 

My god, I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'd rather have devnull in forum updates and suggestions than this chucklehead. At least he was well-intentioned.

 

 

 

I am well intentioned. How about you tell us how it could be done better, then?

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'd be glad to, buddy!

 

 

 

1) Stop tooting your own "look ma I know how to code" horn by yapping about writing your own forum software because this forum is run by a bunch of volunteers who get paid as much for their hard work as I do to tell you you're an idiot. The fact that they are volunteers (many of whom don't even play Runescape anymore and don't have that link to the forum) means that it is of course a great and feasible idea for them to simply use prewritten forum software.

 

 

 

2) Your nerd rage arguments about how self-written software is much more secure and better organized and blah blah I think I'm going into a coma, right here we go again are also irrelevant because of the nature of the situation- a bunch of volunteers, a not-for-profit forum, the fact that the forum software is prewritten, and the (i'm guessing) insane amount of work that would be required in creating your own board from scratch

 

 

 

3) I'm not normally one of those chumps who thinks that hypocrisy dilutes the strength of the message, but in your case, with a forum that is pretty much an exact clone of tip.it's (right down to the use of phpBB) stinks of "do as I say, not as I do." If your sorry [wagon] is "too lazy" to even create a website that doesn't break every time someone uses it, the idea of you telling everyone here to do the incredible amount of work in writing forum software is nearly funny enough to make me shatter a rib bone.

 

 

 

How about instead of giving us your condescending opinion disguised as "constructive criticism" you go write your own strongly-typed forum software and prove us all morons?

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Way to rewrite your first post at double the size with no more content.

 

How about we all just keep quiet until someone has something constructive to say

How about we all just keep quiet until someone has something constructive to say.

 

That would is a great idea, for everyone involved. No more flaming will be allowed.