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Change of Forum Software - UPDATED!

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I smell someone so desperate to let everyone know how smart he is regarding coding that he'll offer his irrelevant and useless opinion while describing it as "constructive criticism" and then tell everyone he's writing an article which is labeled as "more constructive criticism" when in reality that article is nothing more than a giant sign that screams "LOOK! I KNOW STUFF ABOUT CODING! I SHALL PROVE IT BY TELLING EVERYONE ABOUT THEIR OWN FLAWS, WHICH IN TURN MAKES ME LOOK BETTER! ADMIRE MEEEEEEEEE!"

 

 

 

Oh, I also happen to smell someone who is so desperate for the aforementioned attention that he'll even start his own site with a color scheme patterned directly on tip.it's.

 

 

 

Old site. Old design. Yes it was based off Tip.It's, but they seemed like nice colors at the time.

 

 

 

My god, I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'd rather have devnull in forum updates and suggestions than this chucklehead. At least he was well-intentioned.

 

 

 

I am well intentioned. How about you tell us how it could be done better, then?

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'd be glad to, buddy!

 

 

 

1) Stop tooting your own "look ma I know how to code" horn by yapping about writing your own forum software because this forum is run by a bunch of volunteers who get paid as much for their hard work as I do to tell you you're an idiot. The fact that they are volunteers (many of whom don't even play Runescape anymore and don't have that link to the forum) means that it is of course a great and feasible idea for them to simply use prewritten forum software.

 

 

 

I don't remember stating anything referring to how good I am at coding, nor do I care how good or bad people think I am.

 

 

 

2) Your nerd rage arguments about how self-written software is much more secure and better organized and blah blah I think I'm going into a coma, right here we go again are also irrelevant because of the nature of the situation- a bunch of volunteers, a not-for-profit forum, the fact that the forum software is prewritten, and the (i'm guessing) insane amount of work that would be required in creating your own board from scratch

 

 

 

I didn't say Tip.It should write their own forum. I was simply stating that custom forums play better with existing systems. Tip.It has minimal integration so this doesn't apply. You see, talking about software development entertains me. IPB is a NEW AND EXCITING CHANGE, therefore I am EXCITED and start talking about all sorts of things. I don't think you have any place to flip out at me.

 

 

 

3) I'm not normally one of those chumps who thinks that hypocrisy dilutes the strength of the message, but in your case, with a forum that is pretty much an exact clone of tip.it's (right down to the use of phpBB) stinks of "do as I say, not as I do." If your sorry [wagon] is "too lazy" to even create a website that doesn't break every time someone uses it, the idea of you telling everyone here to do the incredible amount of work in writing forum software is nearly funny enough to make me shatter a rib bone.

 

 

 

How about instead of giving us your condescending opinion disguised as "constructive criticism" you go write your own strongly-typed forum software and prove us all morons?

 

 

 

I don't need a forum that's integrated with an existing system at the moment, and I already have too many things to do.

 

 

 

Let this be the end of this blasphemy... this madness!

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Pretty sure meol said to give it a break, Jard_Y_Dooku.

 

 

 

Hence "Let this be the end". :)

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Pretty sure meol said to give it a break, Jard_Y_Dooku.

 

 

 

Hence "Let this be the end". :)

 

 

 

Yeah but not without you getting your final words in huh? :roll:

 

 

 

A question for whomever is in charge with the maintenance and operation of this forum/swap over: Seeing as the new IPB version of the forum will have a lack of themes (Especially RS related ones) I was wondering if you're open to taking a look at user submitted themes?

 

I ask this on behalf of myself and a few friends.

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Pretty sure meol said to give it a break, Jard_Y_Dooku.

 

 

 

Hence "Let this be the end". :)

 

 

 

Yeah but not without you getting your final words in huh? :roll:

 

 

 

A question for whomever is in charge with the maintenance and operation of this forum/swap over: Seeing as the new IPB version of the forum will have a lack of themes (Especially RS related ones) I was wondering if you're open to taking a look at user submitted themes?

 

I ask this on behalf of myself and a few friends.

 

 

 

We've always been open to user submitted themes (if they're popular enough with the community), the problem is not the themes themselves, it's the support for said themes. I don't have time to try and patch up a skin (design is not my kind of thing) because a forum upgrade I've just done has broken something in it. Obviously the default themes don't have this problem (but IPS does provide skin change files between versions to help with custom skins). The custom skin would also need to support the Gallery and Blogs additions to IP.Board, not just IPB.

Anyway, back on topic, no updates to the date of the conversion as of yet. It may end up being early next week rather than late this week, not 100% sure yet.

 

 

 

What are you working for Jagex now? :roll:

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Anyway, back on topic, no updates to the date of the conversion as of yet. It may end up being early next week rather than late this week, not 100% sure yet.

 

 

 

What are you working for Jagex now? :roll:

 

 

 

Just to confirm the conversion will NOT be tomorrow (Friday).

Can we try and steer the upgrade period away from next weeks Rs update? The updates are probably one of the forums busiest times, and i know alot of people rely on these forums for their information on all the new updates.

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Can we try and steer the upgrade period away from next weeks Rs update? The updates are probably one of the forums busiest times, and i know alot of people rely on these forums for their information on all the new updates.

 

Trying to avoid busy spots is useless. You either update during the week and risk being down when an RS update hits because Tuesday is not 100% guaranteed (as happened this week, it was wednesday), or you do it during a weekend when all the children are home and actually trying to use the update from that week.

 

 

 

A few days of pain isn't helped by playing thread the needle between busy periods in the week. Just get it done and over with when staff are ready and able to make the switch.

It really doesn't matter in the long run whether or not the conversion overlaps or is done on a patch day.

It really doesn't matter in the long run whether or not the conversion overlaps or is done on a patch day.

 

 

 

If you ask a Crewbie, I think they'll say different.

 

 

 

It'd be nice to not have it on an update, but if it happens, it happens.

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It really doesn't matter in the long run whether or not the conversion overlaps or is done on a patch day.

 

 

 

If you ask a Crewbie, I think they'll say different.

 

 

 

It'd be nice to not have it on an update, but if it happens, it happens.

 

 

 

They have it under control. ;-)

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I'll want to see one change though;

 

 

 

Make clickable links OPEN IN A NEW WINDOW (like it used to on phpbb2)

 

 

 

thank you :D

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I'll want to see one change though;

 

 

 

Make clickable links OPEN IN A NEW WINDOW (like it used to on phpbb2)

 

 

 

thank you :D

 

 

 

Ctrl + Click on a link. Or just middle click it.

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I'll want to see one change though;

 

 

 

Make clickable links OPEN IN A NEW WINDOW (like it used to on phpbb2)

 

 

 

thank you :D

 

 

 

Nope - while this option is available, it won't be enabled. Standards dictate users choose where their windows open now and by default it's the current window, not a new one. The "target" property (what was used to open in a new window) is deprecated in XHTML Strict for this reason.

I'll want to see one change though;

 

 

 

Make clickable links OPEN IN A NEW WINDOW (like it used to on phpbb2)

 

 

 

thank you :D

 

 

 

Nope - while this option is available, it won't be enabled. Standards dictate users choose where their windows open now and by default it's the current window, not a new one. The "target" property (what was used to open in a new window) is deprecated in XHTML Strict for this reason.

 

 

 

:shock: I love you.

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Fanboy.

You're accusing me of bigotry, how ironic. It's a nice attempt at argument, but your responses are facile and asinine, if not diatribe. Who's arrogant now?

Will you guys be doing the rebuilding of the posts, profiles and PMs? or should we copy those down if we need them for future reference? I know the conversion proccess doesn't make them user friendly and puts them in HTML, which is why i'm wondering.

 

 

 

Also, skin wise, will it be the standard IPB skin? or do you alreayd have skins out?

 

for the media tag, are you keeping it the default limit? or will be able to change it?

 

Will you be using IP.CCS to integrate the main site with the forums?

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Will you guys be doing the rebuilding of the posts, profiles and PMs? or should we copy those down if we need them for future reference? I know the conversion proccess doesn't make them user friendly and puts them in HTML, which is why i'm wondering.

 

All posts/PMs and profiles should be visible as usual after the conversion.

 

 

 

Also, skin wise, will it be the standard IPB skin? or do you alreayd have skins out?

 

The standard IPB skin to begin with plus probably the CleanCut skin.

 

 

 

for the media tag, are you keeping it the default limit? or will be able to change it?

 

The limit will be set at whatever we decide the maximum number of videos per post should be, undecided yet but probably something like 5.

 

 

 

Will you be using IP.CCS to integrate the main site with the forums?

 

No.

Will you guys be doing the rebuilding of the posts, profiles and PMs? or should we copy those down if we need them for future reference? I know the conversion proccess doesn't make them user friendly and puts them in HTML, which is why i'm wondering.

 

All posts/PMs and profiles should be visible as usual after the conversion.

 

Thanks, I didn't rebuild profiles and things after I upgraded one of my sites XD. It showed an BB code with tags, which was very annoying to re-build

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Will you guys be doing the rebuilding of the posts, profiles and PMs? or should we copy those down if we need them for future reference? I know the conversion proccess doesn't make them user friendly and puts them in HTML, which is why i'm wondering.

 

All posts/PMs and profiles should be visible as usual after the conversion.

 

Thanks, I didn't rebuild profiles and things after I upgraded one of my sites XD. It showed an BB code with tags, which was very annoying to re-build

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