two young boys beaten up. really appalling

[Me_Hate_Libs]

It's not a justification.

 

 

 

Then excuses shouldn't be brought up in the first place. Whether someone's wife divorced them and took their money or if their dog crapped on the floor, nothing excuses committing that crime. It's entirely irrelevant. It comes down to the person consciously choosing to commit a crime, not things "leading" them to do it.

 

 

 

There are plenty of people that have been in the same situations and yet they have not felt the need to commit atrocities like this. What does that tell us? It doesn't come down to the things that "lead" you to do it. In the end, it comes down to the person.

 

 

 

PS: I noticed I quoted the wrong thing from Assassin. I meant to quote how he said the parents were drug addicts. My bad.

 

 

 

But then you get into a sticky situation relating to what is a crime or not. In MYC, you cannot legally own a handgun, but if someone breaks into my apartment, I'd damn sure shoot their [wagon].

[Zierro]

But then you get into a sticky situation relating to what is a crime or not. In MYC, you cannot legally own a handgun, but if someone breaks into my apartment, I'd damn sure shoot their [wagon].

 

 

 

That's a good point and something I thought myself. If you're forced into committing a crime (someone breaks in, or someone threatens to kill you if you don't steal something for them) then of course it is an excuse. I'm mostly aiming at how people bring up broken homes, bad childhoods, and stuff like that. Just because you had a bad life doesn't mean you're any more excused to commit a crime than someone with a good life. I feel very bad for people with horrible lives, but you shouldn't go around and make other innocent people feel equally as miserable.

[The Observer]

A bit young tbh. Those kids need to learn that doing that is not right, one way or another.

[Omar]

I just don't get why you'd do that in the first place. Crushing a bug bothers me... Burning someone's eyelids with cigarettes? nty.

[Nero]

The problem here tends to arise when the stupid [wagon] accidentally takes it from "if they break into my apartment" to "if they're gay" or something like that.

 

If they break into my house -> If they trespass on my lawn -> If they start [cabbage] on my street -> if they cause trouble in my city -> if they [bleep] with my country -> [bleep] it let's just bomb them.

[Earth_Poet]

Personally? They'll die one day. Death is enough, but the fact that they'll live their lives with that horrible memory is enough for me to go to bed every night.

 

 

 

If I had to guess, they are sociopathic, meaning that they probably don't care what they did. They're more concerned with how severe will they be punished.

 

 

 

The pair, who were well-known to social services and were in foster care at the time of the incident, also admitted a charge of assault occasioning actual bodily harm in connection with an attack on another 11-year-old boy a week earlier.

 

 

 

According to the article, this isn't the first time these boys have been grossly violent. I'd be interested in learning how they ended up in foster care in the first place. This isn't the first time it's ever happened, but it certainly isn't normal behavior for a 10 year old.

 

 

 

It's not a justification. Nobody is saying "forget about the kids, for they had a bad childhood". But physically harming them (just like torturing torturers) won't prevent that from happening again and it won't solve the original problem that caused violence in the first place. There is a difference between revenge and justice. This kind of aggression is a symptom of something bigger, and the kids need serious counselling, not a beating up.

 

 

 

It's incidents like this that give supporting evidence to favor the death penalty in my country, and I don't say this to be facetious. There's a strong possibility that these two kids will never be helped. I understand a strong desire to want to save and repair these damaged kids, but society also has an obligation to protect the other children around them.

[Skeptical]

I think that they must be mentally disturbed... they should probably be isolated from the rest of us if they are at risk of assaulting other children.

[H2PM]

IT LIVES! Oh dear god!

 

Two month old dead thread returns from the dead.

[1230abcz]

Holy... [cabbage]... If this was India, the two kids would've had their [wagon] handed to them by their parents and everyone else in the vicinity. Stupid American child abuse laws; they're no good when it comes to times like these, and I'm not even joking. Those kids need to get beaten senseless a few times.

[Maze]

Holy... [cabbage]... If this was India, the two kids would've had their [wagon] handed to them by their parents and everyone else in the vicinity. Stupid American child abuse laws; they're no good when it comes to times like these, and I'm not even joking. Those kids need to get beaten senseless a few times.

I smell ignorance.

 

Two wrongs don't make a right, my friend. As stated many times in this thread, beating them senseless is not going to help, and it could possibly make them worse.

[stonewall337]

"...one had a sink dropped on his head..."

 

I personally would have used a toilet.

 

That was Boondock saints you are thinking of.