I still never understood Scientology, but I think I got it down...

 

 

 

A guy named Howard L. Whathisname made up a religion claiming we are all victims of Xenu, some ultra-galatical warlord but if you pay Howard L. Whathisname, we are guanteed salvation/happiness?

 

 

 

Am I right?

I used to be an avid researcher of Scientology- hell, I almost went to one of the Chanology protests in downtown Toronto! The beliefs and practices of Scientology are far-fecthed in my opinion, and there have been many controversies involving the Church, but with a little digging I'm sure you could find those things in almost every religion. I really just don't bother myself with it anymore, people have the liberty to choose whether to become a member or not, and despite how uneasy I feel about the Church it's ultimately their choice and I don't want to impose any of my beliefs on them to try and stop them. Luckily, no one I know is a member :D

Man, atheist are just gonna barrage this topic and leak small perks offending other religions, til it becomes a debate if God is real.

 

;-;

 

 

 

I'm not an atheist but I agree with them here. We're all in the dark when it comes to theology. I find the idea of looking to others for the answers, even though they're no different than you are, to be very entertaining.

-.- For the love of god. At least the original topic was filled with facts and such.

 

 

 

The Church of Scientology is a dark and dirty organization which scams people, and was created for no other reason then to steal money.

 

 

 

Scientology itself is just another religion with its own quirks. There is nothing morally wrong about being a scientoligists and believing in the actual practice of it.

 

 

 

Learn the difference.

 

 

 

Man, atheist are just gonna barrage this topic and leak small perks offending other religions, til it becomes a debate if God is real.

 

;-;

 

 

 

I'm not an atheist but I agree with them here. We're all in the dark when it comes to theology. I find the idea of looking to others for the answers, even though they're no different than you are, to be very entertaining.

 

 

 

 

If this happens, the topic gets insta-locked. There is another topic for that.

Scientology itself is just another religion with its own quirks. There is nothing morally wrong about being a scientoligists and believing in the actual practice of it.

 

 

 

Learn the difference.

 

Don't you mean Dianetics?

Scientology itself is just another religion with its own quirks. There is nothing morally wrong about being a Scientologist and believing in the actual practice of it.

 

 

 

Learn the difference.

 

Don't you mean Dianetics?

 

Edit: oh ok. Didn't know they had a name for the practice. In any case, it is ok to practise the religion, not the church's practises.

Scientology itself is just another religion with its own quirks. There is nothing morally wrong about being a Scientologist and believing in the actual practice of it.

 

 

 

Learn the difference.

 

Don't you mean Dianetics?

 

Edit: oh ok. Didn't know they had a name for the practice. In any case, it is ok to practise the religion, not the church's practises.

 

 

 

Therein lies the problem with Scientology. You cannot practice it outside their church. It is all inclusive. You must actively engage in the Church to practice the religion. It's involved in every level.

 

 

 

By the by, yesterday they put up the massive cross on top of the Super Power Building. It's 50 feet tall and now the highest point in downtown Clearwater.

 

 

 

And people still follow him, even after reading that quote.

 

Nice.

 

 

 

 

"There's a sucker born every minute. - P.T. Barnum

From various things I'd heard of Scientology doing, I wanted to go protest for Seaarrrgh II but couldn't make it to Sydney. ; _ ;

 

 

 

Scientology is a scam for the people that created it, a cult for the people that actually buy into it, and a joke for everyone else.

 

This.

 

 

 

 

And people still follow him, even after reading that quote.

 

Nice.

 

 

 

 

"There's a sucker born every minute. - P.T. Barnum

 

:lol:

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Super Power Building that is 5 blocks from me. That little building in front of it is the Tin Can Cafe, a tiny little diner with maybe 6 tables, but everyone loves it. Scientologist have been trying to buy them out for four years, so everyone goes there and give them their business to keep the place there.

 

 

 

Also,

 

 

 

 

OMG, Scientology is actually a front for Space Camp!!! :o

Scientology itself is just another religion with its own quirks. There is nothing morally wrong about being a Scientologist and believing in the actual practice of it.

 

 

 

Learn the difference.

 

Don't you mean Dianetics?

 

Edit: oh ok. Didn't know they had a name for the practice. In any case, it is ok to practise the religion, not the church's practises.

 

 

 

Therein lies the problem with Scientology. You cannot practice it outside their church. It is all inclusive. You must actively engage in the Church to practice the religion. It's involved in every level.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Umm yes you can. If you were following the Project Chanology when it was big back about a year an a half ago, there were some ex-communicated scientoligists that joined up with Anon at their protests at CoS locations. They gave out free information about the church, and even explained their side of things being Ex-comm's. They can be really nice people.

Well, if that is true, and I have no reason to believe it's not, even if they practiced it to the letter as a Scientologists practiced it, thwy still couldn't call it Scientology. Scientology, without the Church of Scientology, isn't Scientology. That is what I meant when the Curch is involved at every level. You have to be actively engage with the Church in order to practice under the name of Scientology.

 

 

 

Even Christianity doesn't require this.

Well, if that is true, and I have no reason to believe it's not, even if they practiced it to the letter as a Scientologists practiced it, thwy still couldn't call it Scientology. Scientology, without the Church of Scientology, isn't Scientology. That is what I meant when the Curch is involved at every level. You have to be actively engage with the Church in order to practice under the name of Scientology.

 

 

 

Even Christianity doesn't require this.

 

 

 

 

 

Wut? One could still practice Scientology and not be in the church. They are just Called Ex-Communicated Scientologiests. It sounds like your trying to defend the church or something saying that one cant be a scientoligist without being in the church. The only difference between the two is that the church takes money for the practices, and Ex-Comms practice the religion for free.

 

 

 

It's just like how thousands of people put down every year that their religion is being a Christian or being a Catholic yet they never attend Mass. To be apart of a religion doesn't require an organization at all, but rather a belief. Hence why (as much as some argue) being Atheist is having a religion, cause the lack of belief is a belief, and even if we don't organize, we call ourselves Atheists.

 

 

 

Edit: Unless you are referring to the potential for them not being able to call themselves Scientoligists cause it could be copyright infringement and they somehow go to jail, but I really doubt that.

Well, if that is true, and I have no reason to believe it's not, even if they practiced it to the letter as a Scientologists practiced it, they still couldn't call it Scientology. Scientology, without the Church of Scientology, isn't Scientology. That is what I meant when the Curch is involved at every level. You have to be actively engage with the Church in order to practice under the name of Scientology.

 

 

 

Even Christianity doesn't require this.

 

 

 

 

 

Wut? One could still practice Scientology and not be in the church. They are just Called Ex-Communicated Scientologiests. It sounds like your trying to defend the church or something saying that one cant be a scientoligist without being in the church. The only difference between the two is that the church takes money for the practices, and Ex-Comms practice the religion for free.

 

 

 

It's just like how thousands of people put down every year that their religion is being a Christian or being a Catholic yet they never attend Mass. To be apart of a religion doesn't require an organization at all, but rather a belief. Hence why (as much as some argue) being Atheist is having a religion, cause the lack of belief is a belief, and even if we don't organize, we call ourselves Atheists.

 

 

 

Edit: Unless you are referring to the potential for them not being able to call themselves Scientoligists cause it could be copyright infringement and they somehow go to jail, but I really doubt that.

 

 

 

No, I mean the Church is so strict about it, that in their eyes, you cannot be a Scientologist without them. I'm not defending that, I'm exposing it as being totally crazy.

 

 

 

And what I mean is that the Church is *so* involved in Scientology, that to practice it without their involvement is almost like having another whole religion.

Well, if that is true, and I have no reason to believe it's not, even if they practiced it to the letter as a Scientologists practiced it, thwy still couldn't call it Scientology. Scientology, without the Church of Scientology, isn't Scientology. That is what I meant when the Curch is involved at every level. You have to be actively engage with the Church in order to practice under the name of Scientology.

 

 

 

Even Christianity doesn't require this.

 

 

 

 

 

Wut? One could still practice Scientology and not be in the church. They are just Called Ex-Communicated Scientologiests. It sounds like your trying to defend the church or something saying that one cant be a scientoligist without being in the church. The only difference between the two is that the church takes money for the practices, and Ex-Comms practice the religion for free.

 

 

 

It's just like how thousands of people put down every year that their religion is being a Christian or being a Catholic yet they never attend Mass. To be apart of a religion doesn't require an organization at all, but rather a belief. Hence why (as much as some argue) being Atheist is having a religion, cause the lack of belief is a belief, and even if we don't organize, we call ourselves Atheists.

 

 

 

Edit: Unless you are referring to the potential for them not being able to call themselves Scientoligists cause it could be copyright infringement and they somehow go to jail, but I really doubt that.

 

 

 

I think what he means is that the leaders of the church of scientology don't recognize those that do not as actual scientologists. Since the entire cult is based off of making money, they'd be crazy not to make you attend and give them money in order to call yourself a member.

 

 

 

That's the difference between a cult and other religions, scientology makes you give up everything that you have while religions do not.

 

 

 

EDIT: He beat me to it #-o

Well, if that is true, and I have no reason to believe it's not, even if they practiced it to the letter as a Scientologists practiced it, thwy still couldn't call it Scientology. Scientology, without the Church of Scientology, isn't Scientology. That is what I meant when the Curch is involved at every level. You have to be actively engage with the Church in order to practice under the name of Scientology.

 

 

 

Even Christianity doesn't require this.

 

 

 

 

 

Wut? One could still practice Scientology and not be in the church. They are just Called Ex-Communicated Scientologiests. It sounds like your trying to defend the church or something saying that one cant be a scientoligist without being in the church. The only difference between the two is that the church takes money for the practices, and Ex-Comms practice the religion for free.

 

 

 

It's just like how thousands of people put down every year that their religion is being a Christian or being a Catholic yet they never attend Mass. To be apart of a religion doesn't require an organization at all, but rather a belief. Hence why (as much as some argue) being Atheist is having a religion, cause the lack of belief is a belief, and even if we don't organize, we call ourselves Atheists.

 

 

 

Edit: Unless you are referring to the potential for them not being able to call themselves Scientoligists cause it could be copyright infringement and they somehow go to jail, but I really doubt that.

 

 

 

I think what he means is that the leaders of the church of scientology don't recognize those that do not as actual scientologists. Since the entire cult is based off of making money, they'd be crazy not to make you attend and give them money in order to call yourself a member.

 

 

 

That's the difference between a cult and other religions, scientology makes you give up everything that you have while religions do not.

 

 

 

EDIT: He beat me to it #-o

 

 

 

He's a she. #-o

But if the CoS is so crazy, wouldn't be nicer to call the Ex-Comms The real Scientoligists, since they are the good guys? Who cares if the CoS doesn't recognize them? There are places in the world now that don't recognize the CoS as a real and good organization (I.E Germany/France).

 

 

 

http://www.dailymotion.com/SA-Anonymous/video/7313668

 

 

 

For those that haven't seen the video. It was very well made after the first protest.

But if the CoS is so crazy, wouldn't be nicer to call the Ex-Comms The real Scientoligists, since they are the good guys? Who cares if the CoS doesn't recognize them? There are places in the world now that don't recognize the CoS as a real and good organization (I.E Germany/France).

 

 

 

http://www.dailymotion.com/SA-Anonymous/video/7313668

 

 

 

For those that haven't seen the video. It was very well made after the first protest.

 

 

 

Maybe, maybe not.

 

 

 

The so called radical Islam isn't radical at all. In fact, radical Islam is pretty much what the real Islam is all about. The peaceful and happy Muslims are the ones that are the radical ones, if you follow strict adherence to the Quran.

But if the CoS is so crazy, wouldn't be nicer to call the Ex-Comms The real Scientoligists, since they are the good guys? Who cares if the CoS doesn't recognize them? There are places in the world now that don't recognize the CoS as a real and good organization (I.E Germany/France).

 

 

 

http://www.dailymotion.com/SA-Anonymous/video/7313668

 

 

 

For those that haven't seen the video. It was very well made after the first protest.

 

 

 

Maybe, maybe not.

 

 

 

The so called radical Islam isn't radical at all. In fact, radical Islam is pretty much what the real Islam is all about. The peaceful and happy Muslims are the ones that are the radical ones, if you follow strict adherence to the Quran.

 

 

 

This. I highly reccomend you all read the Quran, then read the book "Understanding Muhammad" by Ali Sina.

I'm a librarian. What makes you think I have time to read books?

I'm a librarian. What makes you think I have time to read books?

 

 

 

:( Swap jobs? I play football, the only thing I get to read are 50 page match reports complaining about my efficiency and my handball to kick ratio.

Great, you're a footballer. Now I have to hate you. Damn. -.-

Great, you're a footballer. Now I have to hate you. Damn. -.-

 

 

 

Believe me, I hate myself for it sometimes. But I make 8 times as much money as my friends working as tradies and it will (in theory) set me up for life.

For the life where you were known as a footballer? Talk about a living hell. :roll:

For the life where you were known as a footballer? Talk about a living hell. :roll:

 

 

 

Ha. Ha. Luckily I'm a small cog in a big system, so I manage to fly under the radar. I've a few friends my age who have played soccer for Australia and in Europe who are now playing in the A leauge, and I don't envy the lives they live

For the life where you were known as a footballer? Talk about a living hell. :roll:

 

 

 

Ha. Ha. Luckily I'm a small cog in a big system, so I manage to fly under the radar. I've a few friends my age who have played soccer for Australia and in Europe who are now playing in the A leauge, and I don't envy the lives they live

 

 

 

Fine, you're paying for our tickets to WDW then.