A petition for the old runescape wildy

[xmisspker]

Hello everyone,

 

 

 

In case you don't know me, I am Xmisspiggyx the f2p pker, and I have started a petition to bring back the old runescape wilderness fighting system. A system where when you killed another player you got what was in their inventory instead of randomly generated junk. Do you miss getting a kill and seeing the pile of rune there, with the knowledge that what they had on them was what you were going to get?

 

 

 

I am aware that "Jagex has said that they won't bring it back..." etc. but I think that it is something worth doing anyway, and it only takes 30 seconds to sign and you can be anonymous. I think that even if you disagree and don't think that this will change anything, how will it hurt you to take a moment and leave a signature?

 

 

 

Below is the link to the petition:

 

 

 

http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/oldrunescapewild

 

 

 

If you believe in the cause, don't be afraid to do something about it.

[Zierro]

I am aware that "Jagex has said that they won't bring it back..." etc. but I think that it is something worth doing anyway

 

 

 

You do know why they're not bringing it back right? It would give RWTers an opportunity to thrive again, something they fought so hard to get rid of.

 

 

 

PS: This is a bit irrelevant, but the reason your post count is lower than it should be is because some forums don't give post count, such as the Graveyard. Questionnaires is not supposed to either, but it does for some reason.

[Low C]

Wont happen, good luck though. RWT costs Jagex far to many dollars to implement the old wilderness back into the game.

[Bauke]

Try a riot in Fally square. It'll have more effect.

[The Observer]

The Wilderness was removed because of Real World Item trading. Without the removal, Jagex would have gone down under due to credit card fines from botters using stolen credit cards to pay for bot memberships.

 

 

 

I'd suggest you'd read Jagex's official opinion on the matter.

 

 

 

Read it through fully and understand the impact that RWT had on RuneScape.

 

 

 

http://www.runescape.com/kbase/guid/diary06

[Sy_Accursed]

You could have the old wildy back...

 

 

 

But then you get to watch all the RWTer swarm back to rs.

 

 

 

When they swarm back it means Jagex has to pay banks and stuff loads of cash for accepting payments from stolen cards (Stolen cards being how RWTers pay for membership)

 

This in itself could pretty much bankrupt them.

 

 

 

But then banks will say no we won;t let you use card payments, which means a payment method vanishes causing Jagex to lose thousands of legit members.

 

If they weren't bankrupt before this, they will be now.

 

 

 

So with no money left and bankrupt Jagex will close it doors and Runescape won't exist, as servers can't be run with no money.

 

 

 

 

 

But I'm sure you won;t care that you can't pk at all because rs doesn't exist any more, because you had to have you're couple of months of "old wildy" pking. Clearly it would be soooo much better than growing up, adapting and enjoying many more years of the new style of pking.

[langer]

A system where when you killed another player you got what was in their inventory instead of randomly generated junk.

 

 

 

Junk? brawling gloves are certainly not junk and artifacts are a great way to make a lot of cash through skilling.

 

 

 

Do you miss getting a kill and seeing the pile of rune there, with the knowledge that what they had on them was what you were going to get?

 

 

 

Not really, I'm fine with the new system.

 

 

 

I think that even if you disagree and don't think that this will change anything, how will it hurt you to take a moment and leave a signature?

 

 

 

Why would I put my signature to something I disagree to?

[Youmu]

We don't NEED the old wildy back, none of us do. You're just another whining PKer that can't get over the old days.

 

 

 

On a side note though, I do want the old wilderness areas back. I miss the Bone Yard. :(

 

 

 

Someone please close this thread, we don't need a petition.

[xmisspker]

A lot of posts so I'll take one at a time...

 

 

 

The Wilderness was removed because of Real World Item trading. Without the removal, Jagex would have gone down under due to credit card fines from botters using stolen credit cards to pay for bot memberships.

 

 

 

I'd suggest you'd read Jagex's official opinion on the matter.

 

 

 

Read it through fully and understand the impact that RWT had on RuneScape.

 

 

 

http://www.runescape.com/kbase/guid/diary06

 

 

 

I'm totally aware of their opinions on the matter, and the reasons for making the changes. However, it is possible for them to do away with the autoing and rwt-ers without making the game less productive for their legitimate players. I suppose that they are intelligent ( I hope ) so they have the ability to find a solution other than what they have implemented thus far.

 

 

 

You could have the old wildy back...

 

 

 

But then you get to watch all the RWTer swarm back to rs.

 

 

 

When they swarm back it means Jagex has to pay banks and stuff loads of cash for accepting payments from stolen cards (Stolen cards being how RWTers pay for membership)

 

This in itself could pretty much bankrupt them.

 

 

 

But then banks will say no we won;t let you use card payments, which means a payment method vanishes causing Jagex to lose thousands of legit members.

 

If they weren't bankrupt before this, they will be now.

 

 

 

So with no money left and bankrupt Jagex will close it doors and Runescape won't exist, as servers can't be run with no money.

 

 

 

 

 

But I'm sure you won;t care that you can't pk at all because rs doesn't exist any more, because you had to have you're couple of months of "old wildy" pking. Clearly it would be soooo much better than growing up, adapting and enjoying many more years of the new style of pking.

 

 

 

That's good fortune telling, but the game thrived for many years without these changes and they did not go "bankrupt".

 

 

 

Why would I put my signature to something I disagree to?

 

 

 

I suggest you read my post a little more clearly, I said "leave a signature" as in "sign the petition". Not put it IN your signature :lol:

 

 

 

We don't NEED the old wildy back, none of us do. You're just another whining PKer that can't get over the old days.

 

 

 

On a side note though, I do want the old wilderness areas back. I miss the Bone Yard. :(

 

 

 

Someone please close this thread, we don't need a petition.

 

 

 

I agree, it's not a necessity but it sure would be nice, and a petition is not going to hurt anything win or lose.

[langer]

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Why would I put my signature to something I disagree to?

 

 

 

 

 

I suggest you read my post a little more clearly, I said "leave a signature" as in "sign the petition". Not put it IN your signature

 

 

 

I understood the first time around, you seemed to have missed my point though.

 

 

 

Why would I sign a petition to something I DISAGREE? You asked us to sign even if we disagree, I don't see the common sense with that.

 

 

 

So far though, you have not suggested reasons as to why Jagex should do this, except to catter to old school pkers. You blindly rejects the reasons why these changes were introduced in the first place. You even go as low as to suggest only intelligent game makers would have kept the old school pking while making sure RWT was impossible. So far, I have seem no valid suggestions from you, only some kid's wishful thinking that "the past will come back if we wish it very hard!".

 

 

 

My prediction is that your petition will fail like the hundreds we have witnessed in the last 20 months.

[Sy_Accursed]

They did not survive for years without going bankrupt.

 

 

 

They survived for years with a few autoers here and there and the odd bit of rwt.

 

 

 

It was when rs got fairly big and mainstream about 2 years ago that the chinses gold farmers and big rwt companies that target games such as WoW hit rs and they started getting slammed and would of gone bankrupt if they did not act.

 

 

 

 

 

You clearly have no idea about these concepts as you compeltely dismissed the Diary from Jagex that fully explains the problem. If you truely understand it you can see there is absolutely NO way to do 100% old style wildy and block rwters. The minute you make people drop what they are wearing and holding it means rwters can transfer money as they know if they go into wildy in steel with and 3mil gp and hide in a quiet corner where they meet their customer and let said customer kill them that the customer will get 3mil coins.

[AlexRn]

where do i find the perition for getting old pkers to stfu :wall:

 

 

 

the old wildy was broken, they fixed it now we are all happy

[xmisspker]

I understood the first time around, you seemed to have missed my point though.

 

 

 

Why would I sign a petition to something I DISAGREE? You asked us to sign even if we disagree, I don't see the common sense with that.

 

 

 

So far though, you have not suggested reasons as to why Jagex should do this, except to catter to old school pkers. You blindly rejects the reasons why these changes were introduced in the first place. You even go as low as to suggest only intelligent game makers would have kept the old school pking while making sure RWT was impossible. So far, I have seem no valid suggestions from you, only some kid's wishful thinking that "the past will come back if we wish it very hard!".

 

 

 

My prediction is that your petition will fail like the hundreds we have witnessed in the last 20 months.

 

 

 

I didn't mean that if you strongly disagree then you have to sign it anyway, it means even if you don't think it will change anyone's mind but you agree with it, sign it anyway because it only takes a few seconds.

 

 

 

I'm not the only one who believes that if they put a little more thought into it, they could pull it off. It's not a dig at them, it's actually sort of a compliment to their ability to innovate. But Jgx has a long history of ignoring what their players want, and I know that I'm not the only one that knows that.

 

 

 

They did not survive for years without going bankrupt.

 

 

 

They survived for years with a few autoers here and there and the odd bit of rwt.

 

 

 

It was when rs got fairly big and mainstream about 2 years ago that the chinses gold farmers and big rwt companies that target games such as WoW hit rs and they started getting slammed and would of gone bankrupt if they did not act.

 

 

 

 

 

You clearly have no idea about these concepts as you compeltely dismissed the Diary from Jagex that fully explains the problem. If you truely understand it you can see there is absolutely NO way to do 100% old style wildy and block rwters. The minute you make people drop what they are wearing and holding it means rwters can transfer money as they know if they go into wildy in steel with and 3mil gp and hide in a quiet corner where they meet their customer and let said customer kill them that the customer will get 3mil coins.

 

 

 

Yes, they did survive for a long time without going bankrupt. There ARE ways to do away with autoers and rwters without affecting their legitimate players. The odd player doing rwt, as you said, is not going to bring down the game, and if they only thwarted autoing and left the wilderness alone then where do all the rwters get their goods?

 

 

 

Because logically if it's not autoers providing the items and gp then it's most likely a normal human player, and the odd human player doing it is not the end of RS.

 

 

 

the old wildy was broken, they fixed it now we are all happy

 

 

 

No it was not broken, it was actually pefect. And no, we are not all happy, do you have any idea how many pkers quit after those updates?

[Fairness]

Okay - I agree with parts of what you're fighting for, and if I had to choose I'd probably take your side. The old wildy had its flaws but it still was much better than the new one, where success involves waiting 2 hours to get 100% EP and then praying not to blow it away against some useless enemy who doesn't risk anything, teles then gets killed out of sight later, or just on someone who will kindly give us a 100k kill for that two hours of work, risked equipment and the effort to kill someone.

 

 

 

It is also true that RWT could have been stopped by other methods, which would only have required slight tweaks of the Wilderness.

 

 

 

Now here comes the problem: Jagex isn't going to admit their mistake, they won't revert the change even if it would be a wise decision and finally, NOBODY CARES ABOUT PETITIONS. Online petitions just don't succeed, period. So that shoots down this attempt.

[kingbrooks]

Try a riot in Fally square. It'll have more effect.

 

 

 

:lol:

 

 

 

it's sad that Jagex caves in to these, it just promotes people to do it again and again...

[Bauke]

 

I didn't mean that if you strongly disagree then you have to sign it anyway, it means even if you don't think it will change anyone's mind but you agree with it, sign it anyway because it only takes a few seconds.

 

 

That is [developmentally delayed]ed.

 

 

I'm not the only one who believes that if they put a little more thought into it, they could pull it off. It's not a dig at them, it's actually sort of a compliment to their ability to innovate. But Jgx has a long history of ignoring what their players want, and I know that I'm not the only one that knows that.

 

 

Sure, that's constructive. Hey why don't you come up with an idea then? All you do is whine and cry about your lousy petition.

 

 

Yes, they did survive for a long time without going bankrupt. There ARE ways to do away with autoers and rwters without affecting their legitimate players. The odd player doing rwt, as you said, is not going to bring down the game, and if they only thwarted autoing and left the wilderness alone then where do all the rwters get their goods?

 

 

 

Because logically if it's not autoers providing the items and gp then it's most likely a normal human player, and the odd human player doing it is not the end of RS.

 

 

Like the guy already said, you clearly have no idea what the problem was all about. Here's an idea, read the post that came along with the RWT removal.

 

 

 

 

No it was not broken, it was actually pefect. And no, we are not all happy, do you have any idea how many pkers quit after those updates?

 

Sure, it was perfect. Sure, everyone wants it back because the PvP worlds are sooooo bad, and bounty hunter is soooooo stupid. That's why your petition has a whopping 83 supporters. Good luck with 50k (fyi, that's not even one percent of the active player base).

[Jaffy1]

Try a riot in Fally square. It'll have more effect.

Rofl. :mrgreen:

 

 

 

Back on topic: This isn't even a questionaire.

 

All this is is an attempt to get people to cast a futile vote. -.-

 

 

 

First of all, Jagex can't bring the old wilderness back as it was because they cannot allow RWT to flourish once more.

 

 

 

Second, I disagree with it, because there's fair ways to go Pvp anyways.

 

 

 

I'm totally aware of their opinions on the matter, and the reasons for making the changes. However, it is possible for them to do away with the autoing and rwt-ers without making the game less productive for their legitimate players. I suppose that they are intelligent ( I hope ) so they have the ability to find a solution other than what they have implemented thus far.

Right. Since you're totally aware of this, and still are suggesting it.. How on earth would you have them do that? I seriously doubt the RWTers won't be able to abuse it in any way.

 

 

 

That's good fortune telling, but the game thrived for many years without these changes and they did not go "bankrupt

 

But I'm sure you won't care that you can't pk at all because rs doesn't exist any more, because you had to have you're couple of months of "old wildy" pking. Clearly it would be soooo much better than growing up, adapting and enjoying many more years of the new style of pking.

Now that is common sense. :thumbsup: Did you fail to read it?

 

 

 

I think you also failed to read this. -.-

 

 

 

This should be closed.

[Jaffy1]

Try a riot in Fally square. It'll have more effect.

Rofl. :mrgreen:

 

 

 

Back on topic: This isn't even a questionaire.

 

All this is is an attempt to get people to cast a futile vote. -.-

 

 

 

First of all, Jagex can't bring the old wilderness back as it was because they cannot allow RWT to flourish once more.

 

 

 

Second, I disagree with it, because there's fair ways to go Pvp anyways.

 

 

 

I'm totally aware of their opinions on the matter, and the reasons for making the changes. However, it is possible for them to do away with the autoing and rwt-ers without making the game less productive for their legitimate players. I suppose that they are intelligent ( I hope ) so they have the ability to find a solution other than what they have implemented thus far.

Right. Since you're totally aware of this, and still are suggesting it.. How on earth would you have them do that? I seriously doubt the RWTers won't be able to abuse it in any way.

 

 

 

That's good fortune telling, but the game thrived for many years without these changes and they did not go "bankrupt

 

But I'm sure you won't care that you can't pk at all because rs doesn't exist any more, because you had to have you're couple of months of "old wildy" pking. Clearly it would be soooo much better than growing up, adapting and enjoying many more years of the new style of pking.

Now that is common sense. :thumbsup: Did you fail to read it?

 

 

 

I think you also failed to read this. -.-

 

 

 

This should be closed.

[Youmu]

I'll say this again: PKing back - absolutely, positively, 100% not gonna happen. Period.

 

 

 

This thread should be closed.

 

 

 

Also, I had something extremely harsh (anti-PKing stuff) planned for this post, but I won't post them since it would make me a troll. And I don't want to be mean. :roll:

[Youmu]

I'll say this again: PKing back - absolutely, positively, 100% not gonna happen. Period.

 

 

 

This thread should be closed.

 

 

 

Also, I had something extremely harsh (anti-PKing stuff) planned for this post, but I won't post them since it would make me a troll. And I don't want to be mean. :roll:

[All_Is_Great]

Signed.

 

Loved your old f2p pking vids, and loved watching you hit 30+s, was cool. Back then not everyone had 99 strength :razz:

[AgentEarl]

screw the wildy, it was lame. pvp worlds are fine

[Slayer_Jesse]

I have but one thing to say: