What is Runescape contents based on?

[Dire_Wolf]

This thread is for those who are interested in being enlighted about what Runescape content is based on. Anyhow as i was reading about the race Elves, i stumbled upon this a interesting thing that has with Fairy rings to do.

 

Fairy Rings

According to folklore, fairy rings are magical circles in which witches and faeries meet to sing and dance at night. Fairies dance in circles and when a human is lured inside he can’t escape unless he is pulled out of the circle by a human chain. Inside time is different and what seems like a couple minutes could actually be several days.

 

Fairy rings is also the name for the circles of inedible mushrooms that grow in grassy areas in North America, Europe, and Britain. Also called hag tracks in Britain, they are believed to be created by witches' dancing feet.

 

Source:

http://faerie.monstrous.com/faerie_rings_and_dances.htm

 

Found anything like this? Please post! Make sure though that you mentioned what part of game the text you will be posting will be about.

[SanNo1]

Almost everything in Rs is based on some kind of fairytale/folklore/myth. Like Camelot, dwarves, elves and most other monsters. Most the quests are based on something else, take Grim Tales for example, there are a lot of fairy tale characters represented in this quest.

 

Of course some references are more subtle than others, and Rs has some originality too. The Mahjarrat storyline is pretty original i think (not sure though).

 

And don't forget the dozens of Monty Python references :twss:

[mega_vegeta6]

This must be the second thread about this in one month, at least.

[AirWales]

Ever since Andrew Gower started on DeviousMUD in '98 the game has always been centered around the medieval/fantasy genre, so just name anything which comes to mind when you think of those two subjects.

[Sy_Accursed]

Its virtually impossible for anything to be original and has been for a long time.

 

Ever since the first stories and images etc were created way way way way way way back when all tht follows is in some way influenced by or lifted from them.

[Ezkaton]

Quite a few things here

[Sy_Accursed]

Quite a few things here

 

You do realise that thread is kinda totally irrelevant?

 

A subtle reference is not the same thing as basing something off another, there is a few overlaps. Eg the whole Camelot stuff, references and is based off rl Camelot stuff.

[Ezkaton]

Quite a few things here

 

You do realise that thread is kinda totally irrelevant?

 

A subtle reference is not the same thing as basing something off another, there is a few overlaps. Eg the whole Camelot stuff, references and is based off rl Camelot stuff.

 

There are still quite a few things that are relevant. But I do understand what you mean. However, :) If we first take the title of the topic "What is Runescape contents based on?" then that thread is totally relevant. On the other hand I do agree that a subtle reference is totally different. However, how far are we to go and say what is a reference and what's not?

 

For example the granite lobster dialogue is quoted from conan the barbarian and IRL film and book. How far are we going to say that it's a reference or they based the dialogue on it. It is a very shady line that we must tread.

 

Anyways I accept that some of that thread may be obsolete when considering this; however it seemed relevant to me at the time when I posted it ^^

[Sy_Accursed]

Reference is a direct quote or allusion too. So word for word reproduction or saying As Shakespeare suggested...

Equally in the sense tht other thread looks it is word play whereby something seemingly normal references something else (eg the white knight names)

 

Based upon is something tht is not a direct reproduction and doesn't outwardly state I am doing what shakespeare did. It is instead of a new version of something, in whihc we can find familiar plot elements or characters that we can place elsewhere.

 

Eg Romeo and Juliet quest.

 

The title is a reference as it directly quotes.

The odd dialogue line is a reference as it directly quotes

 

The story and plot is based upon as it is not a reproduction, but a re-imagining of the original plot and doesnt outright say look at me I'm doing shakespeare story it jsut does it.

 

There is a clearly distinction between the two.

[Shelby_Polo]

I found this quite funny

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baba_Yaga

[Ezkaton]

If it were but that simple. I'll use the example of the SoS.

 

It is a reference to the four horsemen of the apocalypse. Correct?

However it is also

not a direct reproduction and doesn't outwardly state....... it is instead a new version of something

 

So therefore is it a reference or actual content that is relevant to this topic?

 

This therefore blurs the line between reference and reproduction because essentially reference and reproduction can be the same thing.

 

Another example will be camelot. It is a reference to arthurian legend from here in the UK what with the grail quest, merlin and the rest. Correct?

However it is also

not a direct reproduction that doesn't outwardly state...... it is instead a new version of something

 

So then again, is camelot a reference or actual content? yes it is interlinked with the quests such as merlins crystal and holy grail; however if we do not blur the lines between what is a reference and reproduction then how can we actually distinguish something like this?

 

Runescape is full of references and reproductions; however they're all interlinked with each other.

 

Same again I ask of the fairy rings that sirhemen quoted at the start of this thread:

Reference = folklore about the mushroom circles

Reproduction = jagex idea of representing them

[Sy_Accursed]

the SoS

References the 4 horsemen in that it quotes their forms.

It is not however based on the horsemen themselves, as it is not a reproduction of the horsemen, the apocalypse or the effects each is said to bring.

 

Fairy Rings

Do not quote anything from fairy ring lore and is not a reference.

However if you know the lore the circle of mushrooms and magic power is drawn from it. Therefore they are based upon it.

 

There is a clear distinction between them. People just generally don't differentiate two well as to which is which.

In some cases there is a bit of a mix going on, but they are a minority and if u study them closely you can pull them apart into what is each.

 

Essentially references are words.

Based upon is actual things.

 

For example of Camelot. The place and people clearly all reference their names (words) from the Arthurian legends.

But the actual castle and stories do not reproduce the arthurian legends, instead they use them as a basis of their own story and form and therefore these objects are based upon it.

[MerchantInTheDark]

The content coders base RuneScape content on history, folklore, etc. You can connect just about any of the RuneScape peoples to a race or location in real life history. AKA Fremmeniks = Vikings, Varrock = medieval London, Ardogne = Black Plague, etc.

[Sy_Accursed]

The content coders base RuneScape content on history, folklore, etc. You can connect just about any of the RuneScape peoples to a race or location in real life history. AKA Fremmeniks = Vikings, Varrock = medieval London, Ardogne = Black Plague, etc.

 

I'm interested how u link Varrock to london?

Geo graphically and stylistically it has nothing tht screams London more so than any other city.

 

Also Ardougne the black plague thing is kinda bs, as irl no city walled half of itself off to try and contain the plague and as u quite quickly learn via quests there aint no plague

[Pirate_Felix]

Jeremy Clarkson sits in Varrock Church. Richard Hammond sits in the Falador Hairdresser shop

[Ezkaton]

The content coders base RuneScape content on history, folklore, etc. You can connect just about any of the RuneScape peoples to a race or location in real life history. AKA Fremmeniks = Vikings, Varrock = medieval London, Ardogne = Black Plague, etc.

 

I'm interested how u link Varrock to london?

Geo graphically and stylistically it has nothing tht screams London more so than any other city.

 

Also Ardougne the black plague thing is kinda bs, as irl no city walled half of itself off to try and contain the plague and as u quite quickly learn via quests there aint no plague

 

Well during the medieval period it was not until Edward the Confessors reign that London actually became the capital city of England. it makes a little sense with Varrock in the same way as Varrock is kind of the unofficial capital of RS. Anyways another point is that the Exchequer and Treasury were moved from Wessex in the subsequent centuries; and therefore could be linked to the creation of the GE there.

 

BS I know. But I was proud that my first year of medieval studies degree so far came in useful here no matter how crappy.

[Sy_Accursed]

The content coders base RuneScape content on history, folklore, etc. You can connect just about any of the RuneScape peoples to a race or location in real life history. AKA Fremmeniks = Vikings, Varrock = medieval London, Ardogne = Black Plague, etc.

 

I'm interested how u link Varrock to london?

Geo graphically and stylistically it has nothing tht screams London more so than any other city.

 

Also Ardougne the black plague thing is kinda bs, as irl no city walled half of itself off to try and contain the plague and as u quite quickly learn via quests there aint no plague

 

Well during the medieval period it was not until Edward the Confessors reign that London actually became the capital city of England. it makes a little sense with Varrock in the same way as Varrock is kind of the unofficial capital of RS. Anyways another point is that the Exchequer and Treasury were moved from Wessex in the subsequent centuries; and therefore could be linked to the creation of the GE there.

 

BS I know. But I was proud that my first year of medieval studies degree so far came in useful here no matter how crappy.

 

But Varrock IS the capital of the kingdom of Misthalin.

Same as Falador is capital of Asgarnia

Ardougne is capital of Kandarin

Menphanos is capital of the Desert

I dunno what capital of morytannina is, I spose we'd count canafis as its the only city/town tht aint totally in ruin and decay.

[Ezkaton]

The content coders base RuneScape content on history, folklore, etc. You can connect just about any of the RuneScape peoples to a race or location in real life history. AKA Fremmeniks = Vikings, Varrock = medieval London, Ardogne = Black Plague, etc.

 

I'm interested how u link Varrock to london?

Geo graphically and stylistically it has nothing tht screams London more so than any other city.

 

Also Ardougne the black plague thing is kinda bs, as irl no city walled half of itself off to try and contain the plague and as u quite quickly learn via quests there aint no plague

 

Well during the medieval period it was not until Edward the Confessors reign that London actually became the capital city of England. it makes a little sense with Varrock in the same way as Varrock is kind of the unofficial capital of RS. Anyways another point is that the Exchequer and Treasury were moved from Wessex in the subsequent centuries; and therefore could be linked to the creation of the GE there.

 

BS I know. But I was proud that my first year of medieval studies degree so far came in useful here no matter how crappy.

 

But Varrock IS the capital of the kingdom of Misthalin.

Same as Falador is capital of Asgarnia

Ardougne is capital of Kandarin

Menphanos is capital of the Desert

I dunno what capital of morytannina is, I spose we'd count canafis as its the only city/town tht aint totally in ruin and decay.

 

yes but as I said varrock is technically the capital of all of RS isn't it?

[Sy_Accursed]

The content coders base RuneScape content on history, folklore, etc. You can connect just about any of the RuneScape peoples to a race or location in real life history. AKA Fremmeniks = Vikings, Varrock = medieval London, Ardogne = Black Plague, etc.

 

I'm interested how u link Varrock to london?

Geo graphically and stylistically it has nothing tht screams London more so than any other city.

 

Also Ardougne the black plague thing is kinda bs, as irl no city walled half of itself off to try and contain the plague and as u quite quickly learn via quests there aint no plague

 

Well during the medieval period it was not until Edward the Confessors reign that London actually became the capital city of England. it makes a little sense with Varrock in the same way as Varrock is kind of the unofficial capital of RS. Anyways another point is that the Exchequer and Treasury were moved from Wessex in the subsequent centuries; and therefore could be linked to the creation of the GE there.

 

BS I know. But I was proud that my first year of medieval studies degree so far came in useful here no matter how crappy.

 

But Varrock IS the capital of the kingdom of Misthalin.

Same as Falador is capital of Asgarnia

Ardougne is capital of Kandarin

Menphanos is capital of the Desert

I dunno what capital of morytannina is, I spose we'd count canafis as its the only city/town tht aint totally in ruin and decay.

 

yes but as I said varrock is technically the capital of all of RS isn't it?

 

Not really.

I wouldnt rate it above or below any other city.

[pepijn777]

I always like how some cryptids/mythological creatures are featured as summoning familiars:

 

 

[hide=Some example pictures and links]

Bunyip:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bunyip

 

Wolpertinger:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolpertinger

 

Hydra:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lernaean_Hydra

 

Phoenix:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_(mythology)

 

Cthulhu (or Karamthulhu overlord):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cthulhu[/hide]

 

My favourites are the Bunyip and the Karamthulhu overlord (because that one is just hillarious)

[MerchantInTheDark]

The content coders base RuneScape content on history, folklore, etc. You can connect just about any of the RuneScape peoples to a race or location in real life history. AKA Fremmeniks = Vikings, Varrock = medieval London, Ardogne = Black Plague, etc.

 

I'm interested how u link Varrock to london?

Geo graphically and stylistically it has nothing tht screams London more so than any other city.

 

Also Ardougne the black plague thing is kinda bs, as irl no city walled half of itself off to try and contain the plague and as u quite quickly learn via quests there aint no plague

 

Varrock seems to be the most English of the cities, just because of the whole feel of the area and it's relative sophistication compared to the other areas.

 

While there was no single city with the Black Plague, the whole idea of "mourners" (people who control a diseased population), horrible diseases in a medieval themed area, etc just scream Black Plague.

 

When you look for historical connotations, Jagex will obviously take creative liberties, but they're fairly easy to see.

[Grasle]

I'm interested how u link Varrock to london?

Geo graphically and stylistically it has nothing tht screams London more so than any other city.

 

Also Ardougne the black plague thing is kinda bs, as irl no city walled half of itself off to try and contain the plague and as u quite quickly learn via quests there aint no plague

Uhh... the Berlin Wall? Metaphorically.

[fakeitormakeit2]

But their references are highly intelligent, I don't know if these were coincidences but they even reference Standard Arabic (the scholar language) and lore with things such as the Mahjarrati. I mean they even got the adjectival form correct! These people do their research.

[Sy_Accursed]

The content coders base RuneScape content on history, folklore, etc. You can connect just about any of the RuneScape peoples to a race or location in real life history. AKA Fremmeniks = Vikings, Varrock = medieval London, Ardogne = Black Plague, etc.

 

I'm interested how u link Varrock to london?

Geo graphically and stylistically it has nothing tht screams London more so than any other city.

 

Also Ardougne the black plague thing is kinda bs, as irl no city walled half of itself off to try and contain the plague and as u quite quickly learn via quests there aint no plague

 

Varrock seems to be the most English of the cities, just because of the whole feel of the area and it's relative sophistication compared to the other areas.

 

While there was no single city with the Black Plague, the whole idea of "mourners" (people who control a diseased population), horrible diseases in a medieval themed area, etc just scream Black Plague.

 

When you look for historical connotations, Jagex will obviously take creative liberties, but they're fairly easy to see.

 

Your Varrock logic is still hugely weak.

The Black Plague logic is all weak for a "based upon" as nothing about it corresponds to the reality of the black plague.

 

I'm interested how u link Varrock to london?

Geo graphically and stylistically it has nothing tht screams London more so than any other city.

 

Also Ardougne the black plague thing is kinda bs, as irl no city walled half of itself off to try and contain the plague and as u quite quickly learn via quests there aint no plague

Uhh... the Berlin Wall? Metaphorically.

 

Just plain what?

What on earth could the Berlin wall have to do with based on the black plague? The Berlin wall was built to divid Germany into East and West Germany to create two smaller, weaker nation states and thus prevent a repeat of Hitler. No links to the plague what so ever.

[Dire_Wolf]

But their references are highly intelligent, I don't know if these were coincidences but they even reference Standard Arabic (the scholar language) and lore with things such as the Mahjarrati. I mean they even got the adjectival form correct! These people do their research.

Not always. Polliveach is a example of that, all of them are called Ali.