The Style Thread

[Lenticular_J]

Some of the most well-known raw denim brands are APC and Nudies. I hear APC jeans are fantastic, as has been discussed here. Definitely interested in a pair, although I like to buy rigid 501s. Can't see why I couldn't have a pair of new standards to go along with them.

[pennywise]

i'm also interested in buying a pair, but i don't know what cut to buy... i have a pair of NF skinny guys and they fit very well. thinking of getting petite standards...

[Omar]

I'd be more interested in the New Standards. Generally I'd avoid Nudies, from what I've seen first hand they're not so great and very overpriced. N&F is good but their collection for women sucks ass. APCs are unisex. They run 175$, but you should expect them to last a long time.

 

Loosh, if you're in SoCal can't you find a store that sells them and try them on?

[pennywise]

Yeah I guess I could, i live about 46 minutes awayfrom LA...

 

I should have nabbed a pair of apc when they were 165 haha.

[Iamdan]

You're better off getting a well fitting pair of levis and spending the rest on something else.

 

I hate cheap jeans with a bad fit, but levis are easily good enough. Spending $200 is kinda redundant.

[pennywise]

you pay for quality. pay for $40 jeans, you get $40 jeans.

Apcs are admittedly a little bit overpriced now(maybe $10-$20) but are miles ahead of levis quality and fit wise. They fade really well too.

[Iamdan]

This is fashion we're talking about... You pay for quality up to a point. Then you pay for labels.

 

Kids try to dress up in labels. Unless you're made of money, expensive jeans aren't worth it because you can spend the money elsewhere.

 

Belt buckles, teeth whitening, bracelets, necklaces is what you need. Accessories without a specific purpose.

 

For example a $40 pair of jeans with a $150 watch will look much better than a $200 pair of jeans and no watch.

[pennywise]

I don't really know where you're coming from with the label business since apc has always had a good reputation and are really quite good for their price.

think of them as an investment. Worth it because you'll still have them years from now.

 

Teeth whitening? What are you even talking about now.

[Iamdan]

I don't now how I can make it any clearer than how I posted it.

[pennywise]

You started talking about belt buckles and necklaces when I was talking about quality jeans.

[stevepole]

I try on new jeans all the time just so I can learn how different brands and cuts fit on me. That's my only real advise for buying denim, is that you should always try on jeans before you buy just so you know before hand if you like the cut or not.

 

I would however though highly recommend a pair of A.P.C. New Standard to anyone. They're basically cut like a slim straight leg. New Cure, is just a low-rise slim straight leg. The Petit I've only seen in store but have never tried or know of anyone who has a pair but they'd simply just be skinny jean, probably more intended for women as they're unisex jeans.

 

I've also tried on a couple pairs of Nudies but I couldn't tell you which ones. They were skinny though.

 

I'm was surprised how well a pair of Rag & Bone fit on me, I was actually pretty impressed.

 

 

@Wongtong, most all denim you find in department stores are prewashed denim, which basically means they're already washed to a desired look. With raw, you get to build a relationship with your jeans and take on more of your own personality then a pair of Hudsons or something would. Technically speakings it's basically how the indigo dye sits on the denim.

[stevepole]

This is fashion we're talking about... You pay for quality up to a point. Then you pay for labels.

 

Kids try to dress up in labels. Unless you're made of money, expensive jeans aren't worth it because you can spend the money elsewhere.

 

Belt buckles, teeth whitening, bracelets, necklaces is what you need. Accessories without a specific purpose.

 

For example a $40 pair of jeans with a $150 watch will look much better than a $200 pair of jeans and no watch.

 

I disagree. I used to own every wash of the Levi 514s and I'd still take my APCs over them any day. Accessories are good but there is no point to skimp on quality and try to supplement it with something else. It doesn't work.

[Lenticular_J]

Why not have a little bit of quality everything? The staples. Perfect jeans, shirts, suits, whatevs. Buy quality; it'll last forever.

[Omar]

Belt buckles

bracelets

necklaces

Accessories without a specific purpose

 

I think those accessories are some of the tackiest things a guy can wear, much the equivalent of chipped nail polish for chicks... and almost as bad as nail polish on guys. Bracelets, not necessarily, but 9/10 times. Getting laid doesn't imply dressing well, though it entails dressing a certain way. Have you ever owned 200$ jeans? If so, which brand?

 

to build a relationship with your jeans

Alright, you're taking it a bit far.

[Iamdan]

I used to try that a few years ago.

 

By the time you have afforded a fraction of a 'perfect wardrobe' then your body type could change, your preferred style *should* change, and fashion styles definitely will have changed.

 

Buy quality but get value for money, and you can keep up with things.

 

I think those accessories are some of the tackiest things a guy can wear, much the equivalent of chipped nail polish for chicks... and almost as bad as nail polish on guys. Bracelets, not necessarily, but 9/10 times. Getting laid doesn't imply dressing well, though it entails dressing a certain way. Have you ever owned 200$ jeans? If so, which brand?

 

What do you mean?

 

They work. Sure a few people here will call it douchy but girls do the same thing. Next time you're oogling a hot girl you can bet your ass that there is a fat girl in sweatpants nearby thinking 'wow what a showboat.'

 

I haven't owned a $200 pair of jeans. In australia, $100 gets you what $40 will in the states so I try to buy a lot of my clothes there.

[pennywise]

jeez you make it sound like dressing well is some incredible pilgrimage or something haha

[Iamdan]

No but I think dressing well involves a lot more than busting a gut to save for the perfect jeans, and then the perfect something else etc.

[stevepole]

to build a relationship with your jeans

Alright, you're taking it a bit far.

 

 

.. No, that is exactly what you do with them.

[Omar]

I used to try that a few years ago.

 

By the time you have afforded a fraction of a 'perfect wardrobe' then your body type could change, your preferred style *should* change, and fashion styles definitely will have changed.

 

Buy quality but get value for money, and you can keep up with things.

 

I think those accessories are some of the tackiest things a guy can wear, much the equivalent of chipped nail polish for chicks... and almost as bad as nail polish on guys. Bracelets, not necessarily, but 9/10 times. Getting laid doesn't imply dressing well, though it entails dressing a certain way. Have you ever owned 200$ jeans? If so, which brand?

 

What do you mean?

 

They work. Sure a few people here will call it douchy but girls do the same thing. Next time you're oogling a hot girl you can bet your ass that there is a fat girl in sweatpants nearby thinking 'wow what a showboat.'

 

I haven't owned a $200 pair of jeans. In australia, $100 gets you what $40 will in the states so I try to buy a lot of my clothes there.

Basics should be quality, and even if your body type is prone to changing, belts, shoes, etc don't apply (in fact, NY's mayor has bought his first pair of shoes in 15 years recently if I'm not mistaken). Fashion (i.e. dressing as an art) is irrelevant to me, and I'm not going to believe you if you tell me that 5 years from now I won't be wearing jeans anymore.

 

I mean dressing to attract attention from girls is one thing; dressing well is another. Your analogy isn't appropriate: you're comparing yourself to a hot girl (let's say typical club outfit: makeup, hairdo, LBD, heels) and making people who buy quality clothing a fat girl in sweatpants. Should be more like a girl on The Sartorialist, perhaps in a simplified way. And in that case, I would be very right in saying the way you dress is tacky (it has nothing to do with showing off; see my post about things girls wear that make me cringe).

 

And, well, you haven't owned 200$ jeans. I think if you were to put a shell cordovan Alden brogue boot next to its Aldo knockoff, you would immediately find the latter looks like [cabbage]. Quality always looks better.

 

[Edit] Jesus stop posting so fast

to build a relationship with your jeans

Alright, you're taking it a bit far.

 

 

.. No, that is exactly what you do with them.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relationship

We're not talking about mathematics, database design, or media, and you'll find relationships involve people. So unless you're this type of guy...

...you're not building a relationship with your jeans in my opinion. I got raw denim because it lasts and looks better, and I can't take any romanticizing seriously.

[stevepole]

I think your take the definition of relationship to serious and missing sort of the metaphor. You build a relationship with the jeans because you first have to wear them for an extend period of time to get your desired look, second the jeans form to your body and are individually crafted to said individual unlike pre-washed jeans.

[Omar]

I still think it's the type of thing obnoxious bloggers who take pictures of their jeans every month say when they're not hunting for tassel loafers or using excessive ellipses. (beat)

 

It's a good-looking pair of jeans to me, nothing to wax lyrical about. They don't tell a story.

[Iamdan]

I mean dressing to attract attention from girls is one thing; dressing well is another.

 

What other reason for dressing well is there other than for career purposes and attracting women?

 

The socially accepted argument really only works if you're dressing badly.

 

If it's to feel all good inside then I'd argue that it's more of a consumerist thing if you're spending that much.

 

Of course knockoffs are going to look like crap, especially after wearing them for a while. I've seen $200 jeans, and they don't look much different to a well fitting pair of quality levis or something.

 

My analogy was directed at accessories being tacky.

[Omar]

What other reason for dressing well is there other than for career purposes and attracting women?

The socially accepted argument really only works if you're dressing badly.

If it's to feel all good inside then I'd argue that it's more of a consumerist thing if you're spending that much.

It's a consumerist thing coupled with a desire to be efficient. I want to look good for the same reason I make music or used to make signatures. And if investments are going to make that cheaper in the long run, then sure, I'm going to buy 200$ jeans.

 

Of course knockoffs are going to look like crap, especially after wearing them for a while. I've seen $200 jeans, and they don't look much different to a well fitting pair of quality levis or something.

Not all 200$ jeans are equal, hence my asking for a brand name. Yes, instead of getting True Religion you might as well roll with Levi's.

 

My analogy was directed at accessories being tacky.

Mine was too. You might regard it as a jazz musician saying top 40 pop is fake. Most people don't appreciate the first as much as the latter (girls may not like the way I dress as much as they like the way you dress), but there is a certain sense (subjective of course) that one is a higher achievement. The sweatpants analogy isn't appropriate because it is based on jealousy.

[Sam]

Belt buckles

bracelets

necklaces

Accessories without a specific purpose

 

I think those accessories are some of the tackiest things a guy can wear, much the equivalent of chipped nail polish for chicks... and almost as bad as nail polish on guys. Bracelets, not necessarily, but 9/10 times. Getting laid doesn't imply dressing well, though it entails dressing a certain way. Have you ever owned 200$ jeans? If so, which brand?

 

I wear a small set of three bracelets a lot of the time, I'm always getting comments how they're 'cute'. My advice, if anyone feels the need to buy bracelets is to make sure they're not too garish, and wear a maximum of two or three - any more and you'll look like a silly hipster.

 

 

On the topic of style; I'm in need of some nice sneakers (not too expensive). Would anyone care to recommend some nice sneakers?

[Omar]

Vans Eras or Authentics, but DBs are always better.