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------- This thread originally started out with me asking OT a question about dressing classy, but it's basically turned into the style thread so the original post isn't really relevant anymore. Enjoy the nice read though!

 

 

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SHOES:

<$100

Zig Zag

Cheapo

Cheap Monday

Keds

PF Flyers

Zuriick

Tretorn

Superga

Sneaky Steve

Pony

H&M

Topman

Vans

Converse

Puma

Onitsuka

Adidas

 

$100-$200:

Clae

Creative Recreation

Gram

J Shoes

Schmoove

Spring Court

Supra

YMC

Pointer

F-Troupe

Raf by Raf

Clarks

Vans Vault

 

$200-$300:

Acne

Rachel Comey

Neil Barrett

Dries Van Noten

Band of Outsiders x Sperry

 

$300-$400:

Common Projects

The Generic Man

Opening Ceremony

Surface 2 Air

Visvim

 

VARIABLE, BUT STILL EXPENSIVE

Maison Martin Margiela

Raf Simons

Jil Sander

Diet Butcher Slim Skin

Pierre Hardy

Dior Homme

Lanvin

Prada

Ann Demeulemeester

 

 

MESSENGER BAGS AND BACKPACKS

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OBVIOUS CHOICES:

Jansport

Gap

Urban Outfitters

Banana Republic

J Crew

American Apparel

Uniqlo

H&M

Topman

 

LEATHER/DRESSY:

http://www.filson.com/

http://www.thepropertyof.com/

http://www.saddlebackleather.com/

http://www.wantessentials.com/

http://www.kranedesign.com/

http://www.billykirk.com/

http://www.leathergoodsconnection.com/

http://www.scaramangashop.co.uk

 

CANVAS/UTILITY:

http://www.chromebagsstore.com/

http://www.timbuk2.com/

http://reloadbags.com/

http://www.pacdesigns.com/

http://www.manhattanportage.com/

http://www.jackspade.com/

http://www.baileyworks.com/

 

other brands (will find links to the official websites later):

nari/furi

Ys

visvim

chausser

porter

head porter

gregory

fjallraven

idiom

eastpak/designer collaborations

and, of course, backpacks put out every season by certain designers/labels (diet butcher slim skin, patrik ervell, adam kimmel, etc)

 

EYEGLASSES AND SUNGLASSES:

 

recommended (high quality) frame makers:

 

oliver peoples

cutler and gross

moscot

shuron

effector

modo

silver lining

salt

selima

 

SUNGLASSES:

linda farrow and related collaborations

robert geller

mosley tribes

adam kimmel

ray ban (duh)

 

recommended hair product brands:

 

redken

gatsby

sharps

american crew

baxter of California

 

FRAGRANCE RESOURCES:

order samples - http://www.luckyscent.com/ read tons of reviews, lurk/search the forums - http://www.basenotes.net/

 

THE ANSWER TO MOST "WHERE CAN I FIND A SLIM FITTING, CHEAP [X]?" QUESTIONS

 

- Uniqlo

- H&M

- Urban Outfitters

- Topman

- any of the above on ebay

- something from thrift, get it tailored for a slim fit

 

FINALLY:

 

Don't let retail prices intimidate you, especially in this economy. Once you've lurked around enough and have found a brand or particular piece you like, check here:

 

http://www.superfuture.com/supertalk/forumdisplay.php?f=14 (click on the tags at the bottom)

http://www.styleforum.net/forumdisplay.php?f=11

http://stylezeitgeist.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=50

http://auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/

http://www.ebay.com/

 

Have patience and lurk moar. The only things I still have in my wardrobe from H&M are a pair of black jeans and navy chinos. A polo from J Crew and a sweater from Polo RL, but that's it. I've found designer [cabbage] at prices comparable to what they charge for the crap at UO and Topman.

 

Cheap plimsolls stink to high heavens in the summer and if there's anything i'd recommend you spend the most money on, it's a nice pair of shoes. Generic tees and jeans can be had for pretty cheap, but footwear quality is something you feel and see the most.

 

>> RAW DENIM Anonymous ## Mod 01/03/11(Mon)21:45 No.3073434

 

+ Point of Raw Denim (aka dry, unwashed)?

 

Simple. Buy an unwashed pair of denim and as you wear them more and more you watch the denim progress. Usually with denim like 7 for All Mankind and Rock and Republic, the denim goes through series of washing process to give it a worn look. Raw denim is unwashed before being sold. With wear, the denim loosens and fades which will form to your body. With every wear, creases will form and eventually indigo rubs off. The color will fade creating patterns. This is typical in higher stress areas such as whiskers (upper thigh creases), honeycombs (behind the knee creases), and down the thigh to the knee. You are creating what is seen on a typical wash on many designer jeans (since many washes try to mimic a natural fade).

 

+ One Wash? Rinsed?

 

One wash has many characteristics of raw denim. Raw denim comes untreated and unwashed while a one wash denim could used to be raw but have been washed once and shrunk. One-wash denim is typically referring to raw denim that has been washed one time before being sold in order to eliminate the shrinkage and the need for a soak once purchased. Also, it will still fade exactly like any other raws. Rinsed denim is something quite different in which the indigo is locked in and they will not produce fades. An example of one-wash would be some of the one-wash models of skull, pbj and such that Blue in Green sells. One-wash jeans are basically produced to simplify the process of buying and wearing raw denim and to ensure a proper fit and consistent sizing since when buying raw unsanforized pairs the post-soak measurements will vary based on the method of soaking. An example of a rinsed denim would be like 88z or 8aa in diesel where the denim appears raw but is actually treated and will stay dark forever.

 

Washed denim have been rinsed, with either additional washing, fake distressing, or forced fades.

 

+ Selvage

 

Selvage (or Selvedge, Self-edge) is a type of denim made on a vintage narrow loom which creates the unique edges that is typically used on the out seams of jeans. Selvage denim is put together on an old style shuttle loom. The result is a clean edge on where the denim fabric is stitched together that can't by frayed like non-selvage, and give the jeans a more natural look. Shuttle looms which make selvage denim are smaller and produce fabric which is narrower (about 23”) than wide looms. selvage looms also use one long weft thread and loop it back while weaving, while the wider ones use multiple weft threads which aren't connected 0 thus the need for the stitching on the end to keep it from unraveling. Selvage is just an indicator of the weaving technique used and less so the size of the loom. Selvage does not affect the quality of the denim. So why do some jeans have selvage and some don’t? Well it is easier and cheaper for companies to make non-selvage than selvage. The selvage stitching is located inside the jeans, and can be seen when the cuff is turned up (the outseam). The selvage can be any color thread – from red, blue, green, etc.

 

+ Japanese Denim

 

Japanese denim usually comes in heavier and better quality than western denim makes. Japanese denim is very popular and generally favored upon.

 

+ Sanforizing

 

Sanforizing the denim is the process of evening out the shrinkage and has no effect on the color or quality. When the denim is sanforized, it is already shrunk for you. Most denim now is sanforized so when you finally wash the denim it shouldn’t shrink that much. Some Japanese denim are unsanforized, they are shrink to fit. Unsanforized denim should be soaked BEFORE you wear them, that way you shrink them down ahead of time so you won't have uneven fades when you eventually wash them. Also, the denim will stretch with wear (less than 10%). Every brand is different.

 

+ Starching

 

When you want to make your jeans stiffer or add sharper creases to your denim, you apply the starch while wearing them and spray the water until your jeans are damp. Sometimes starching is frowned upon because of bad odor that will remain in your jeans.

 

+ Loss of Indigo

 

Wearing raws can bleed some indigo with first couple of wears. Different jeans have different tendencies with the bleeding. Be careful wearing whites and light colors as they will stain. To keep them coming off your shoes, tape around the inside of the leg opening on the jeans to help eliminate the dye. You can try soaking the waist and leg opening with water to avoid the bleeding. If you already have indigo on your shoes or clothing, a simply wash should take it right out.

 

+ Washing & Soaking

 

There are several methods for washing. Most recommend if you wear your jeans constantly wait at least 6 months to wash them in hot water with detergent then hang dry them. Another method is to wear them into the ocean (not dirty oceans!) and then rinse them out with fresh (non salted) water and hang dry them. While you do not have to wait so long to wash your jeans, you will get the highest contrast fades if you wait since when you wash them the creases you created will be washed out and you might not get the creases in the same place, thus slowing down the fading. If your jeans aren’t that dirty, try soaking them instead. What does soaking do? Soaking cleans the denim, shrinks, and removes starch. Fill a bath tub full of water and lay the jeans inside out flat to float. Place bottles or something heavy on each leg and side to sink the jeans. The hotter the water, the more they will shrink. If your jeans aren’t that dirty but just stink, fabreeze them.

 

+ Hemming

 

Raw denim usually comes with very long inseams. If you have lots of stacking or unwanted length, it is suggested that you soak them to shrink and dry BEFORE HEMMING. Depending on the denim, you can lose 2 inches off the original inseam. While you wear the jeans for extended periods of time without washing, the creasing will eat up the inseam as well. So even if you soak or wash them before hemming, you should still allow an extra inch at least. Hemming by a professional tailor should be your last option. Stacking (taking all the extra length and pushing it down to your ankles to make them break and settle) or cuffing the hems are a nice alternative to hemming. It is not recommended to put jeans into dryer unless you want them to shrink radically and create wrinkles. Be advised the fit can possibly mess up in the dryer as well.

 

+ Fit

 

Fit depends from brand, cut, etc. There is no real thumb for sizing! Most raw denim retailers will have that information for you. Not everyone wears their jeans the same, so sizing is hard to find for personal fit. It is recommended to go to blueingreen.com or selfedge.com for sizing info.

 

Bootcut - Slight flare to have room for boots

 

Tapered - Slim fit gets thinner all the way to the bottom

 

Straight leg - Evenly proportional. Jean is cut straight from the knees to the hem.

 

+ Prices

 

≈$100:

good society

crate

academi

uniqlo

gap

 

$100-$200:

apc

naked and famous

nudie (not generally recommended)

LVC (levi's vintage clothing)

3sixteen

 

$200-$300:

eternal

fullcount

oni

pure blue japan

skull

somet

sugar cane

warehouse

imperial

dry bones

slings and stones

5EP

acne

 

$300-$400+

mister freedom

dior homme

iron heart

studio d'artisan

45rpm

 

>> MALL GUIDE Anonymous ## Mod 01/03/11(Mon)21:48 No.3073455

 

American Eagle

Pros: None

Cons: Everything in store

 

Aeropostale

Pros: None

Cons: Everything else

 

American Apparel

Pros: tee's, sweatshirts

Cons: Price, automatic "hipster" label

 

Gap

Pros: Button Ups, trousers

Cons: Price

 

OldNavy

Pros: Price, some bareable things to purchase

Cons: Everything else

 

Banana Republic

Pros: Shirts, trousers

Cons: Nothing bad to say about BR

 

Topman

Pros: Price

Cons: Quality of clothes isn't good

 

Karmaloop

Pros: Slim jeans

Cons: Graphic T's/Hoodie, baggy jeans

 

Nordstrom

Pros: Great stuff

Cons: Price

 

Macys

Pro: Price

Cons: Middle tier mall store

 

JCpenny

Pro: price

Cons: Horrible shoe selection, horrible quality

 

Jcrew

Pro: Great quality clothing, all around good stuff

Cons: Pricey if you're on a budget, sales are usually slim picking

 

Express

Pros: Good cheap clothing

Cons: Graphic T's

 

Lucky brand

Pros: Polos

Cons: Quality is sub par for the price you're praying

 

Levis

Pros: The selection of jeans, price

Cons: No cons

 

Ralph Lauren

Pros: Polos

Cons: Logo

 

Brooks Brothers

Pros: RTW Suits, button ups, sweaters

Cons: Not for everyone, but great stuff

 

Revolve Clothing

Pros: Designer brands

Cons: Pricey

 

>> /fa/ APPROVED STORES Anonymous ## Mod 01/03/11(Mon)21:52 No.3073473

 

High Fashion / Fine Apparel:

www.aloharag.com

www.barneys.com

www.bergdorfgoodman.com

www.brownsfashion.com

www.luisaviaroma.com

www.neimanmarcus.com

www.oaknyc.com

www.pollyanna.com

www.sevennewyork.com

shop.doverstreetmarket.com/index.php

www.southwillard.com/

www.yoox.com

www.activeendeavors.com

www.apc.fr

www.baseworld.com

www.boutiqueopium.com

www.caliroots.com

www.contextclothing.com/

www.factorypeople.com/

www.frontlineshop.com

www.gildedage.net/gilded_age.html

www.grandism.com

www.hanon-shop.com

http://www.hecklewood.com/index.php?...emart&Itemid=1

www.hejfina.com

www.hideoutstore.com

www.jakeandmabel.com

www.kitchener.ch

www.le-bouclard.com/

www.norsestore.com

www.oipolloi.com

www.one40fivestore.com/

www.oogaboogastore.com

www.peasantonline.com

www.revolveclothing.com

www.shotgun.tv

www.shopjake.com//index.php

www.slamjam.it

www.steadyboutique.com

www.stevenalan.com/shop/

http://store.stelsinc.com/mensclothing.html

store.uniqlo.com/L1/main.html

www.styleserver.de

www.the-glade.com

www.tresbienshop.se

www.triads.co.uk

www.volls.de/shop/index.php

www.wellgosh.com

www.wjk.jp/group_ind/index_reluxe.html

www.wesoldout.com

 

http://www.ssense.com/

http://www.blackbirdballard.com/

www.zebraclub.de

www.zoovillage.com

 

Shoes / Accessories

Shoes:

www.alden-of-carmel.com/

www.azitaskateboards.com

www.buloshoes.com/thumb_menu.cfm/mcid/1.cfm

www.davesqualitymeat.com/index.php

www.foot-patrol.com/store.php

www.harputs.com

www.kickback-berlin.de

www.kickz.com

www.mediumdesigngroup.com/store

www.nortberlin.com/

www.overkillshop.com

www.rmwilliams.com.au/

www.shoebuy.com/sb/AllBrands.jsp

www.shoe-shop.com

www.solebox.de/

www.street-feet.com/

www.zappos.com

 

Accessories:

www.chronomaster.co.uk/index.htm (Watches)

 

Luggage / Bags / Wallets:

www.coach.com/content/Collect...?categoryId=74

http://ecsotype.com/

www.hecklewood.com/noncms/home.html

www.hermes.com/

www.iam2.com/english/main_eng.html (Zwei)

www.jackspade.com/

www.redmoon.co.jp

www.sportsaccessories.com/(Rawlings)

www.vajacases.com/home/home_en.html

 

Outlets / Unclassifiable

www.rakuten.ne.jp

www.bluefly.com

www.zozo.jp

 

Jeans

www.aeroleatherclothing.com/

www.atticclothing.com

www.bluebee.com/

www.blueingreensoho.com

www.cultizm.com

www.fos5.com

www.gotdenim.com/

www.kitmeout.com/shop/

http://newton-store.com/

https://own-magazine.com/store/

www.psyche.co.uk/site/index.php

www.selfedge.com/

http://shoppa.tjallamalla.com

www.zoovillage.com (EU Only)

 

Men's haircuts:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=GP6UCTKY

 

Women's haircuts:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=5BBO8C76

 

 

 

 

 

[spoiler=OP]I've been looking to change my look for a while and was wondering what tips OT could give me! Long time lurker and reader :D

 

But anyway, what do you all think? What looks classy, what doesn't etc. I've been reading (or trying to read other sites) and I'm still working to really define what's classy. So OT, help me out!

 

(and if this is the wrong spot, please move it!)

 

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I've been looking to change my look for a while and was wondering what tips OT could give me! Long time lurker and reader :D

 

But anyway, what do you all think? What looks classy, what doesn't etc. I've been reading (or trying to read other sites) and I'm still working to really define what's classy. So OT, help me out!

 

(and if this is the wrong spot, please move it!)

 

Here is the man you're looking for.

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I basically have that shirt, lol.

 

 

(not the exact one, I don't think, but a similar one)

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*waits for Lent to go on an epic speech about suits*

 

well, what style are you going for exactly? Like buisness man chic? Mallcore? Gangbanger? Playboy?

 

What exaclty are you going for?

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*waits for Lent to go on an epic speech about suits*

 

well, what style are you going for exactly? Like buisness man chic? Mallcore? Gangbanger? Playboy?

 

What exaclty are you going for?

 

 

Hah I do enjoy wearing my suit and all, but just in general classier. Like I wear some button up shirts with an under shirt and jeans and all. That kind of stuff

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Gotta roll up my sleeves here ...

 

Okay, so, first, you gotta decide what exactly defines you. What kind of a person are you? What happens in your daily life? Are you running around a lot with friends? Do you prefer to sit back and relax? Are you a workaholic?

 

In my case, I love suits, but I also do a lot of stupid stuff with my friends that ends up with us running away from something. So it's common for me to deconstruct suits. Now, you're saying classy, so I think you're looking at similar things to me. Let's start with suits:

 

If you're tall and thin, you want lighter, solid suits. Jet black always looks good, though. No pleats on the pants. Pinstripes are okay, but it's better if they're fairly wide. Narrow (2.5 inches is the basic) ties are highly in style now. I prefer solid, but it's not a huge deal. If you're short and stout, pretty much reverse all of that. If you're somewhere in the middle, congrats, you get the best of both worlds! Just remember: Wool for the suit (ALWAYS), silk for the tie. Shirt's probably gonna be cotton.

 

Oh, and undershirts: If you plan on being fully suited up all day, wear a crew neck. If you intend to unbutton only the top button, wear a v-neck. If you might be unbuttoning a lot, wear an A-shirt (tank top). Your undershirt should roughly be the same color as your shirt (although black with dark colors and white with light is fine). Unless you intend to make a bit of a fashion statement, in which case match the color to whatever else you're wearing - or just go opposite.

 

I have to continue this later. But that's pretty good for a suit. Just remember this: Make sure all your clothes fit. Fit is very important. They should just barely skim your skin.

 

Okay, I'm back. I'll just throw some ideas out there, my personal favorite outfits.

 

Blazer/Sportcoat/Suit jacket, dark wash jeans, plain colored t-shirt, nice black shoes (oxfords or loafers), black belt. Or you can go the other way and do bright white what would normally be black. Could be cool.

White dress shirt, black dress pants, black oxfords, black dress belt, black pocket square, black fedora, black suspenders. Having a black shirt with a bright red undershirt and bright red suspenders is my nighttime version of this.

Jeans, dress vest, narrow tie, dress shirt, shoes, blah blah blah. This is becoming more common, probably moreso in fashion-conscious places, but it still looks good.

 

Just remember to take a basic design, something classic, and make it your own through subtle (or sometimes, if you're in that mind frame sometime, bright and glaring) alterations.

 

Make good friends with a tailor, and possibly the owner of a small, respected shoe store. And make friends with the owners of interesting, exotic restaurants and whatnot - that's more lifestyle related, though. Learn how to tie a tie perfectly your favorite way, and experiment with a couple of other knots. Spend time on your hair. Spend even more time cleaning your clothes - SHOES ESPECIALLY. One of the first things women will notice about a guy they don't even know is his shoes, and what condition they're in. Gay guys probably do this too, if you swing that way, but I wouldn't know.

 

That's a good enough blueprint. Feel free to ask me about specific questions. Can't say I know a lot about cologne (yet), though. I'm learning.

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Wool for the suit (ALWAYS)

What about linen?

 

Anyways, steer clear from graphic tees and "eroded" clothing if you're going for classy. Start reading up on fashion blogs (Fashionbeans, the Sartorialist) for trends. Prioritize organic fabrics as opposed to synthetic ones, like poylester. Tailored clothing are hard to pull off if you're too young. Be sure not to look like you're trying to be something you're not.

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Wool for the suit (ALWAYS)

What about linen?

 

Anyways, steer clear from graphic tees and "eroded" clothing if you're going for classy. Start reading up on fashion blogs (Fashionbeans, the Sartorialist) for trends. Prioritize organic fabrics as opposed to synthetic ones, like poylester. Tailored clothing are hard to pull off if you're too young. Be sure not to look like you're trying to be something you're not.

Linen isn't good for more than a plaything, in my opinion. I have a linen blazer, and it bugs the hell out of me. I have to have it pressed if I plan on wearing it more than a couple of times in a week, since it wrinkles like a [bleep]. But it is very light and fun, and gets a lot of attention, so its got its ups and downs. Cotton's alright, but it fades over time. Flannel's just weird looking for something like a suit. Wool's a happy medium.

 

I disagree that tailored clothes are hard to pull off. Well, if you're very young and still growing, yes, it's rough, but tailoring your nicer clothes should be on every man's to-do list. The sizes of dress shirts (that aren't overpriced) fit very few men straight off, particularly in the waist. At least, here in America. Doubt it's that different in Canada, but I don't know.

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Linen isn't good for more than a plaything, in my opinion. I have a linen blazer, and it bugs the hell out of me. I have to have it pressed if I plan on wearing it more than a couple of times in a week, since it wrinkles like a [bleep]. But it is very light and fun, and gets a lot of attention, so its got its ups and downs. Cotton's alright, but it fades over time. Flannel's just weird looking for something like a suit. Wool's a happy medium.

 

I disagree that tailored clothes are hard to pull off. Well, if you're very young and still growing, yes, it's rough, but tailoring your nicer clothes should be on every man's to-do list. The sizes of dress shirts (that aren't overpriced) fit very few men straight off, particularly in the waist. At least, here in America. Doubt it's that different in Canada, but I don't know.

I mean tailored clothing as in suits, leather lace-ups, trousers, dress shirts, etc. Not clothing brought to a tailor so that he makes it fit right.

Matt: You want that eh? You want everything good for you. You want everything that's--falls off garbage can

Camera guy: Whoa, haha, are you okay dude?

Matt: You want anything funny that happens, don't you?

Camera guy: still laughing

Matt: You want the funny shit that happens here and there, you think it comes out of your [bleep]ing [wagon] pushes garbage can down, don't you? You think it's funny? It comes out of here! running towards Camera guy

Camera guy: runs away still laughing

Matt: You think the funny comes out of your mother[bleep]ing creativity? Comes out of Satan, mother[bleep]er! nn--ngh! pushes Camera guy down

Camera guy: Hoooholy [bleep]!

Matt: FUNNY ISN'T REAL! FUNNY ISN'T REAL!

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Oh, okay. Yeah, a young fellow that dresses like his grandfather might've is gonna get a lot of attention. But I'm an attention [bleep], and I like it, so it really just encourages me. Not for the meek.

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Oh, okay. Yeah, a young fellow that dresses like his grandfather might've is gonna get a lot of attention. But I'm an attention [bleep], and I like it, so it really just encourages me. Not for the meek.

 

And that's why I think wearing a blazer, or buttoning your shirt all the way up, or wearing lace-ups, etc. is a better idea than wearing a full suit. It looks classy but not completely incongruous.

Matt: You want that eh? You want everything good for you. You want everything that's--falls off garbage can

Camera guy: Whoa, haha, are you okay dude?

Matt: You want anything funny that happens, don't you?

Camera guy: still laughing

Matt: You want the funny shit that happens here and there, you think it comes out of your [bleep]ing [wagon] pushes garbage can down, don't you? You think it's funny? It comes out of here! running towards Camera guy

Camera guy: runs away still laughing

Matt: You think the funny comes out of your mother[bleep]ing creativity? Comes out of Satan, mother[bleep]er! nn--ngh! pushes Camera guy down

Camera guy: Hoooholy [bleep]!

Matt: FUNNY ISN'T REAL! FUNNY ISN'T REAL!

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Well for starters, don't wear baggy jeans. Don't be a [bleep] and go for skinny jeans either, you want slim cut jeans that aren't tight on your skin. Also don't wear suit pants or something like that, because to me that seems more like you're trying too hard to look classy, than just being classy, if that makes sense.

 

For shoes, i'm not really sure as i'm from England and I don't know if this trend is in the states yet, but plimsoles are pretty casual but don't look sloppy or too casual.

(Example - http://s7v1.scene7.com/is/image/JohnLewis/000068049?$product$ )

 

For your top, you could wear a white/black crew neck t-shirt with a nice jumper, or some kinda tee that compliments a cardigan or something?

( http://www.frenchtruckers.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/lyle-scott-grey-lambwool1.jpg or http://products.tedbaker.com/MEKONG_00-BLACK_78123/affwnd/2170_633882654040487093.jpg )

 

Basically some people would say the 'pretty boy' look, but it's also pretty smart/classy.

Maybe not what you're looking for, but worth a try. :)

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You want to wear a button-up shirt under your jumpers, it looks better.

Speaking of attention lent, I just wore dress shoes on an informal occasion for the first time (friend's gig at a small bar). Works like a charm.

Matt: You want that eh? You want everything good for you. You want everything that's--falls off garbage can

Camera guy: Whoa, haha, are you okay dude?

Matt: You want anything funny that happens, don't you?

Camera guy: still laughing

Matt: You want the funny shit that happens here and there, you think it comes out of your [bleep]ing [wagon] pushes garbage can down, don't you? You think it's funny? It comes out of here! running towards Camera guy

Camera guy: runs away still laughing

Matt: You think the funny comes out of your mother[bleep]ing creativity? Comes out of Satan, mother[bleep]er! nn--ngh! pushes Camera guy down

Camera guy: Hoooholy [bleep]!

Matt: FUNNY ISN'T REAL! FUNNY ISN'T REAL!

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I'm fifteen, [bleep]es.

 

You want to wear a button-up shirt under your jumpers, it looks better.

Speaking of attention lent, I just wore dress shoes on an informal occasion for the first time (friend's gig at a small bar). Works like a charm.

I don't know what it is, but there's just something about shoes. I'm considering getting a fancy-[wagon] pair of brown oxfords and trying to wear them with every suit I got (won't be able to get them for a while, but it wouldn't hurt to start looking). It might be interesting, seeing as every guy plays it safe with black.

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I'm considering getting a fancy-[wagon] pair of brown oxfords and trying to wear them with every suit I got (won't be able to get them for a while, but it wouldn't hurt to start looking). It might be interesting, seeing as every guy plays it safe with black.

It won't change anything, the wow-o-meter is already at the max because you're wearing a suit.

 

I don't know what it is, but there's just something about shoes.

They set the tone for your outfit.

Matt: You want that eh? You want everything good for you. You want everything that's--falls off garbage can

Camera guy: Whoa, haha, are you okay dude?

Matt: You want anything funny that happens, don't you?

Camera guy: still laughing

Matt: You want the funny shit that happens here and there, you think it comes out of your [bleep]ing [wagon] pushes garbage can down, don't you? You think it's funny? It comes out of here! running towards Camera guy

Camera guy: runs away still laughing

Matt: You think the funny comes out of your mother[bleep]ing creativity? Comes out of Satan, mother[bleep]er! nn--ngh! pushes Camera guy down

Camera guy: Hoooholy [bleep]!

Matt: FUNNY ISN'T REAL! FUNNY ISN'T REAL!

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If I'm with older people (pretty common) or at an event with people who actually do know suits, though, taking a chance on the shoes is more likely to be noticed, though. But, yeah, kids at my school freak out over a blazer. That's because I'm pretty much the only one who strays from either pure athletic wear or jeans and a t shirt.

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If I'm with older people (pretty common) or at an event with people who actually do know suits, though, taking a chance on the shoes is more likely to be noticed, though. But, yeah, kids at my school freak out over a blazer. That's because I'm pretty much the only one who strays from either pure athletic wear or jeans and a t shirt.

It's hardly taking a chance, they look good with anything as long as you wear them with a matching belt. Well you probably know more than me, so that's just my two cents.

Matt: You want that eh? You want everything good for you. You want everything that's--falls off garbage can

Camera guy: Whoa, haha, are you okay dude?

Matt: You want anything funny that happens, don't you?

Camera guy: still laughing

Matt: You want the funny shit that happens here and there, you think it comes out of your [bleep]ing [wagon] pushes garbage can down, don't you? You think it's funny? It comes out of here! running towards Camera guy

Camera guy: runs away still laughing

Matt: You think the funny comes out of your mother[bleep]ing creativity? Comes out of Satan, mother[bleep]er! nn--ngh! pushes Camera guy down

Camera guy: Hoooholy [bleep]!

Matt: FUNNY ISN'T REAL! FUNNY ISN'T REAL!

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It's just far more uncommon to see someone in a suit wearing brown shoes, as far as I know. Particularly if it's a black or grey suit. It can just look interesting.

 

And you likely know more about trendy stuff, whereas I have the classics. We complete each other!

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