Ye Olde Hegemony

[Nexaduro]

Y'see, Retech, can you reply to my PM on how that will work? It is relevant for you to keep up with me on it, even now.

[Retech]

The catapults are shorter ranged than the trebuchets, and because of the defences (remember that they still have the trebs), he felt it was better to wait for further instructions. I don't like deviating from people's plans too much, so if they go too off track and the enemy isn't necessarily owning, I normally give the person a chance to revise and think about it more.

[Nexaduro]

Oh, and all my troops have been withdrawn from Spain in light of the Mongolian threat. Soldiers are available for hire. Retech, you remember when I said about the 30% student funding rate? Can I bring that up to 40% or 50% with the same budget?

[Retech]

Nope. I set 400 as a nice round number because it wasn't that high or low. My reasoning was that I like round numbers, which is why in my calculations in battles, sometimes I round to the nearest hundred. As a "reason", I would say that the other 70% are not interested in that line of work. :P

[paul191600]

Mongols in the 1000's? Getting a little ahead of yourself there Retech :P

[Retech]

Mongols in the 1000's? Getting a little ahead of yourself there Retech :P

 

Heh, I decided that this was no exact time, but in the general high middle ages, from the 11th century to the 13th century. Mongols are fair game!

[Icuownage]

I didn't get slaughtered, they lost 2800 men and I lost 3000, 1000 of them being peasents and 2000 of them being basically trained swordsmen that didn't cost much

 

They lost a lot of their defense, and have left themselves open for another attack, infact I saw I did okay.

[Nexaduro]

Nope. I set 400 as a nice round number because it wasn't that high or low. My reasoning was that I like round numbers, which is why in my calculations in battles, sometimes I round to the nearest hundred. As a "reason", I would say that the other 70% are not interested in that line of work. :P

Ooooooohhh! I get it! The 400 wasn't graduates, it was paid graduates. Awesome, that works out fine.

[Retech]

Retech, how much would cavalry cost?

 

Plus can you put troop costs on the OP? PLEASE?

 

What kind of calvary? Oh right, I forgot about that. I'll go do that now.

[Seraphi]

I didn't get slaughtered, they lost 2800 men and I lost 3000, 1000 of them being peasents and 2000 of them being basically trained swordsmen that didn't cost much

 

They lost a lot of their defense, and have left themselves open for another attack, infact I saw I did okay.

I believe it's called a Pyrrhic Victory.

 

Not to mention that your soldiers morale must be pretty crappy since they can see that they're just being thrown into the meatgrinder with the hopes that with enough bones, it might just jam up.

 

Unless you're going full out IG on their ass. They'd rather charge the enemy because their commander is probably worse to be around.

 

In fact, you're halfway there already with the whole "SUFFOCATE THEM WITH OUR CORPSES!" thing.

[Icuownage]

Firstly, I didn't think they'd have a castle, just a settlement, it's a tiny nation I'm invading here.

 

Secondaly, trebuchet were more offensive than defensive, I didn't really anticipate them using defensive trebuchet.

 

Thirdly, that wasn't even half of my invading force killed.

 

Fourthly, the whole sending peasents into the meatgrinder, well that is true, I do use them on the sole purpose to set traps off and crap, but they're peasents, and it is a common tactic for a general to throw in troops that are of low quality to get the enemy to come out or show their weapons. 'Twas only a thousand, and who cares about their morale when they're dead, my other troops know full well what they were going to be used for but the basic peasent doesn't.

 

Fifthly, compared to my previous assault, this was a victory.

[Seraphi]

Eh. Any sacrifice at all should be considered and an alternative should be found.

 

I still think the morale of your troops is going to suffer, since it really was a pyrrhic victory. You recieved far greater losses and walked away without capturing your objective, and yet, because you managed to kill an equal number of troops, it's a victory?

 

I dun get it, captain.

[Icuownage]

It's a victory compared to how it could of gone, but it wasn't a victory literally speaking.

 

I say it wasn't a complete failiure and that now the enemy have lost quite a few of their troops, and their defense are weak, I also have navy ships to combat any reinforcements, and have more on the way.

 

They will crack next turn, my general knows this, his troops know it, the enemy are just saying their final prayers before I regroup and kill them.

 

Also Retech are you using Medieval total war, or an equivilent system?

[jasignhagj]

Eh, I think letting us expand too far outwards would kind of ruin it. We would get satisfied with large chunks of Asia, America and Africa and stop trying to kill each other.

 

I don't want gunpowder for weapons nor have any intention of using it. I just want it to help mining.

 

Just like we tried to stop killing each other in the last hegemony?

[Retech]

Medieval total war? What am I using the system for?

 

 

 

That reminds me. If we ever get to fighting huge battles, I can fight custom battles on Medieval total war to see how they turn out. I'll play as the human to balance it in your favor. :P

[jasignhagj]

Forgot about the 2 days to a year thing too. All 6 million from my treasury last decade went into Infrastructure.

[paul191600]

Tbh if custom battles had an autoresolve feature using M2TW wouldn't be half bad :P

It would interesting to see if two people that fight (who own M2TW) use the online multiplayer, with Retech spectating, to see who is the winner of a battle.

[Icuownage]

I would actually buy it for that sole purpose...

 

I only own RTW and *cough* I kinda "Arrrr!"'d it if you catch my drift.

[Earth]

meh, ill wait until the morrow for the raiding session. ah, how i do love blood and slaughter!

Research:

5/30 Seige

5/30 Steel working

5/20 Traps

5/20 Mining

 

i spend about 4 million constructing ships with major improvements on durability, speed, and firepower. island nations are more of my thing than being attacked by all sides.

[Earth]

true, but how can you survive me raiding you so much? i jsut tell the raiders they can go and atatck you.. and keep msot of the loot, and you lsoe some infrastructure, some gold, and some of your valuable workforce.

[Seraphi]

raiding forces are generally unorganised barbarians. Very easy to beat or fend off by any competant general, and if they don't get any momentum, they have no supply lines. If they fail in their first few attacks, they'll pretty much be sitting ducks.

 

No match for an army, by any means. They're more about killing civilians and taking stuff from small cities. They'd be hopeless at taking anything more than a farming village.

[Earth]

simple, you have no idea where the raiders will come from! they will atack, plunder, then leave for scotland again in matters of moments.. much to soon for anything to be done. and as long as i keep doing it, i can plant traps.. traps to main, and kill.. traps toset your army on edge.. traps to weaken you, until i can finally finish you off..

[Icuownage]

Well Earth, raiders can only do so much, and would get owned by a castle.

 

Then we'd amass a counter attack and kill you.

[Earth]

eh, so? why would they go after a castle? and yes, if anyone doesnt realize it now, i have issues. also, why counter atatck me if i raid your enemies?

[Seraphi]

Or you can have all of your coastal towns look out for raiders and have them prepare...

 

Raiders are no threat to anybody who is at all good at this game, and relying on them will make you lose.

 

Take my advice, it'll help you live a bit longer, and don't rely on raiders as a major part of your offensive strategy.