I think this was probably the simplest meme we have started.

 

We posted exactly what we felt without complicating it with words.

 

Also, Earth, I know you have trouble understanding these things, but you don't need to tell us each time you have trouble understanding...It just gives everyone else a headache...and spreading suffering is something that I am against.

then why do it? the less you complicate things such as that will make me less likeley to grief.

Because we are not directly addressing you, nor are we refering to you, nor would we.

 

Thus you do not need or have a responsibility to read our posts.

Where as we have a responsibility to read your posts because they refer to your posts, and I am the moderator and thus have a duty to read all the posts....

 

 

Thus we do not create suffering when we post, you create suffering(for yourself) when you read the posts, and further suffering(for everyone else) when you post that you are suffering, because we are honourbound to read those posts.

 

 

Furthermore we do not intend to cause suffering when we post, we intend to enjoy each other's company and to have a good time.

When you post posts like this, your intent is to cause suffering and thus stop us from posting as we do.

 

 

 

Here my intent is to prevent you from suffering in the future and thus prevent us suffering.

 

If you are deeply upset by the style of posting I can only recommend you talk to an Admin about it and they will hopefully resolve the problem with their usual speed and vigor.

thats a whle lot of words for just a two word response that would be much easier, shut up. lsiten, dude. i say i have a headache because you repeat stuff and tack on more useless stuff onto the main mnessage. i read your posts and respond to them because i want to. unless they are directed at entirely different people, then i dont respond to them. usually people make general statements which i can and usually will respond to.

Thus you do not need or have a responsibility to read our posts.

 

Quoted because THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

 

Earth, if it gives you a headache stop doing it. Don't ask other people to change because you're obsessive.

 

For one, it's annoying.

 

Lore of the cheese arrives at the royal court in Kiev, but Vladimir is so shocked by the news he cannot fathom it to be true. He executes the messenger.

okay, okay. fair enough. ill stop [bleep]ing about stuff by posting my probnlems here. sorry.

Technically I should have control over the Spanish city Granada since it was under conrtol of a Zirid faction until 1090.

 

Also the Zirid empire was at year 1000 much broader on the map.

I was already conquered. Reconquista!

 

Random note: Server is back up!

Spanish as in current Spain, and technically since Dysty said he conquered Spain it should remain untouched as it is in fact Zirid land. Otherways conquering would also mean taking embassies surrounded by the conquered nation but belonging to another.

 

Granada announces itself a Zirid embassy in Spain!

Yes it is, Granada belonged to a Zirid faction until past our current age. It is only fair that I recieve it as long as I do not use it for military actions.

It's not fair, he conquered it...... It's like saying I have to give back Norway cause I didn't own it back then.

No, Granada is currently a Spanish city, but at the time it was a Zirid city surrounded by Spain.

Think West Berlin WWII.

I have no clue what you're saying. Please elaborate on exactly what your point of view is on how ownership should work in this case. :thumbup:

That's an argument for the beginning of the game, Mather, by now you've already lost it.

 

Hehehe.

All I want is that the technically Zirid city of Granada should be my embassy in Spain.

Errr, you could ask Spain about that, but there's no gameplay or historical reason why it should be strictly under your jurisdiction (since we don't exactly have airlifts).

Alright here's my compromise, Mather:

 

You can build your embassy in Granada, then I'll burn it to the ground, get the Pope to call a crusade on your heathen ass, then annex you.

 

Does that sound fair?

You would repay an opening for diplomatic relations with attacking the one nation who in this game has lost no more than one million and has bought nothing that wasn't military? I fail to see how that would seem logical.

FOX HAS TAKEN OVER THE FORUM! NOOO!

 

Also, what would be the negative effects of changing to a more altruistic Christianity, Retech?

Well your troop set would change to a regular one, meaning your Hlaupari would either be weaker or costlier.

 

 

I suppose your population would become more altruistic in philosophy as well.

You would repay an opening for diplomatic relations with attacking the one nation who in this game has lost no more than one million and has bought nothing that wasn't military? I fail to see how that would seem logical.

Well Dusty's army is over 100,000 strong, plus Dungeonal who would undoubtedly join in and that alone is probably 170,000 - 200,000 troops.

 

If my calculations are correct, you'd get demolished.

25,700 troops (where most are defencive) to a value of ~60,000,000 (quality beats quantity) + a castle + possible help from Persia + possible help from others.

 

I'd say my chances are about 50-60%

Report soon Retech?

No Retech DEFINATELY said at the start of the game about having too large of an army, I'll even go get the post.

Teehee.

>nex just got ripped of in bruges and antwerp

Not really. The people of Bruges like him well enough, but it wasn't Iceland that got France off their back, it was Spain. And they said whoever could get France off their back they'd become vassals of.

 

Also, what would be the negative effects of changing to a more altruistic Christianity, Retech?

Widespread disorder, revolts, weakened economic strength, etc, etc.

 

You can't just change your nation's faith whenever you want.

 

You would repay an opening for diplomatic relations with attacking the one nation who in this game has lost no more than one million and has bought nothing that wasn't military? I fail to see how that would seem logical.

I would repay you trying to take one of my cities by killing your country, yes.

 

You would repay an opening for diplomatic relations with attacking the one nation who in this game has lost no more than one million and has bought nothing that wasn't military? I fail to see how that would seem logical.

Well Dusty's army is over 100,000 strong, plus Dungeonal who would undoubtedly join in and that alone is probably 170,000 - 200,000 troops.

 

If my calculations are correct, you'd get demolished.

25,700 troops (where most are defencive) to a value of ~60,000,000 (quality beats quantity) + a castle + possible help from Persia + possible help from others.

 

I'd say my chances are about 50-60%

Your entire army is crossbowmen.