Effectiveness and risk of various methods?

[L0rdAki]

Making unf pots - i've often heard this said as a good way of making money (700k+ an hour), but is it viable? Risky? Effective over long periods of time?

 

What about Dks? Risky? What levels does it become viable?

 

Where and what method (no super antifires, 80 combat stats, 73 prayer and summon) is best for green dragons?

 

Apart from Farming and dailies (which I do), spinning flax and picking fungus, what other old reliable methods are there for cash? Does a place (eg: Runescoop) have a list of old standbys?

[manitstinks]

Flash soul split

Its good

[Viv]

Hey guys. Know you missed me. <3

 

Now I've been slaying for a little while with the gear you guys suggested, praying all tasks and whatnot (I do listen...eventually). However, my small, puny mind hates losing cash over the short term. So I dropped pietying all tasks and am purchasing cheaper gear and combat pots. The faster exp was nice...but I need a little more then 70m (what I've got now) and a solid money making method (IMO, you might disagree) before I start doing it again.

 

That in mind, I've noticed some tasks are annoyingly expensive, trying to keep to a budget (waterfiends, metal dragons, basically anything not called Blue drags where you have to pray heaps and either get bad drops (metals) or use lots of pots (fiends). What are the cheapest way to do these?

 

Also, does Guthans top/verac's skirt/defender sound good for armour? Or use dfs instead?

eh guth top verac skirt is good lol i usually use prossy top verac skirt soulwars cape defender and pra and 70m isnt that bad slayer should make lots of profit anyway..

[PereGrin]

This is what i use on all of my slayer tasks now. The prayer bonus makes it possible to piety on alot of slayer tasks. But it really isn't necessary.

 

 

You should get 90ish attack and str to think about pietying. Otherwise, the bonuses from peity are a percentage from lower levels, and they are not even close to as effective.

 

Here is metal drag setup:

 

 

I don't bother pietying metal drags. I also do not bank the bones. I don't lose money on the tasks, but I dont gain much either.

[L0rdAki]

Pere, I was also told to get stats in the 90s and a bigger cashpile/money maker (2m+ per hour?) before I think about pietying tasks.

 

I've been at odds for how to train combat until then, and my first answer was to slay on a real budget...As opposed to AZ's (I like slayer, i just can't afford to piety..>:P)

 

Appreciate the answers (especially Pere), but nothing's really helped me with my main problem (My current task is Wfs >_<)

[crashNburn]

By 'combat pots' you don't mean actual combat potions (the sickly green colored ones), do you?

[L0rdAki]

Yup, they're cheap as and give the same boost as a normal attack/str. Sounds perfect for slayers on a budget.

[crashNburn]

As far as cheap and effective slayer boosts go, super sets are pretty huge. Unless you're sub 60~ slayer you won't be losing any money by using super attacks and strengths over combat pots with the same repot time.

[L0rdAki]

Combat pots are 400 for Atk and Str.

 

Super Attacks are 1k ea, Super Strs are 5k ea.

 

I know they give epic boosts, but for the amount of attention I pay (and therefore the amount of pots I end up using a task) I find Combat pots to be better.

[Bladewing]

Piety is more important actually the lower level you are, since it speeds up the rate at which you climb levels. Think of it as borrowing - you may lose more money now, but in the future when you're higher leveled you'll be so much better at making money that you can make up for the losses then.

 

Also max hit and accuracy seem to be proportional to gear bonuses, levels, and (gear bonuses) x (levels), so you still get roughly the same percentage increase with piety regardless of your levels.

[Obtaurian]

Combat pots are 400 for Atk and Str.

 

Super Attacks are 1k ea, Super Strs are 5k ea.

 

I know they give epic boosts, but for the amount of attention I pay (and therefore the amount of pots I end up using a task) I find Combat pots to be better.

 

If you're the type of slayer who just dawdles around and tries to AFK the skill, you made the right decision by not using piety and super sets. I'd go as far as to say that you shouldn't even use combat potions (you'll save an extra 800-1,200 GP a task if you don't). Efficiency isn't really your cup of tea, and that's okay. You should use full rune to save money. Consider selling your whip and using a dragon scimitar, too (much cheaper).

 

FYI, waterfiends are always profitable. Unless you're doing something completely wrong, of course.

[L0rdAki]

Piety is more important actually the lower level you are, since it speeds up the rate at which you climb levels. Think of it as borrowing - you may lose more money now, but in the future when you're higher leveled you'll be so much better at making money that you can make up for the losses then.

 

Also max hit and accuracy seem to be proportional to gear bonuses, levels, and (gear bonuses) x (levels), so you still get roughly the same percentage increase with piety regardless of your levels.

 

You know, out of all the things, I never really thought of it like this.

 

Time to buy back a whole heap of super sets and prayer pots...Ll

 

Would it be worth buying my own ZS to use on fiends tasks and gargs, ect? I just hate having equipment I don't use and often end up selling stuff like that.

[aspeeder]

Piety is more important actually the lower level you are, since it speeds up the rate at which you climb levels. Think of it as borrowing - you may lose more money now, but in the future when you're higher leveled you'll be so much better at making money that you can make up for the losses then.

 

Also max hit and accuracy seem to be proportional to gear bonuses, levels, and (gear bonuses) x (levels), so you still get roughly the same percentage increase with piety regardless of your levels.

 

You know, out of all the things, I never really thought of it like this.

 

Time to buy back a whole heap of super sets and prayer pots...Ll

 

Would it be worth buying my own ZS to use on fiends tasks and gargs, ect? I just hate having equipment I don't use and often end up selling stuff like that.

ZS is definitely something all slayers should have, though gargs have pretty pitiful defense so a whip works pretty well against them. Also, how on earth are you losing money at wfs? If you're praying piety and only going pray range if your hp gets low you should still be profiting.

[Zaaps1]

SS/ZS is better than whip on Gargs.

[Lacoste]

I dont see why your so hesitant to piety your tasks and use a cannon, you have 70m at your disposal, i manage to do all of that and not have more then a couple mil cash...

[xpx]

 

FYI, waterfiends are always profitable. Unless you're doing something completely wrong, of course.

Or something really,really right ;)

 

The current best moneymaker seems to be frost dragons with 4m an hour at little risk, but requires ridiculous levels for most people. Boss hunting is always high risk with good profit assuming average luck, but you need experience in it. Most noncombat moneymakers don't get anywhere near combat, but are low risk with guaranteed money gains. Slayer is most likely the most popular moneymaker, if you have good stats and have the right equipment, using turmoil/extremes will actually make you more money in the long run(as your killing speed increases dramatically).

[PereGrin]

You may want to upgrade the black dhide to karils if you have the money. Also, USE BUNYIP SCROLLS. I didnt have any, so i just grabbed scrolls i had to show you.

 

 

If you dont have an onyx (i) ring, then get a seers ring for extra magic defense.

 

Pray range if you get low on hp, and let your bunyip heal you up some. If you want to, piety, but I personally rarely piety tasks.

 

 

Please note: You stop needing prayer at about 85 defense. I recommend the full slayer helm because it gives +10 magic defense, which is the best mage defense bonus for any usuful helm in game.

 

That is an estimate of how many prayer potions you will need. You may need a few more or less, depending on how fast you can kill them, or how often you need to use protect range.

 

Bunyip scrolls allow you to eat raw fish if you have the fishing level to cook it. Waterfiends drop raw sharks and lobsters quite frequently. Just set your summoning button to the special move, and click it and then a piece of raw food in your inventory. Using this does not inturrupt combat, so it is a rather nice way to heal if you are in the middle of killing one.

[Zaaps1]

Also, since the slayer helm boosts your magic level by 15% while on task, it would boost your magic defense as well.

 

When you aren't on task, though, Neitiz is better since it is +0 magic defense and gives good offensive bonuses.

[Quyneax]

+3 magic defence on a helmet of Neitiznot iirc, as well as +3 prayer and strength. Dwarven helmet boost crush, so might be worth trying if you find you're missing too much.

 

EDIT: The slayer helmet doesn't have to boost magic defence. Void mage doesn't boost magic, and therefore magic defence, by 30%, or does it? It might just be offensive bonusus.

[L0rdAki]

Piety is more important actually the lower level you are, since it speeds up the rate at which you climb levels. Think of it as borrowing - you may lose more money now, but in the future when you're higher leveled you'll be so much better at making money that you can make up for the losses then.

 

Also max hit and accuracy seem to be proportional to gear bonuses, levels, and (gear bonuses) x (levels), so you still get roughly the same percentage increase with piety regardless of your levels.

 

You know, out of all the things, I never really thought of it like this.

 

Time to buy back a whole heap of super sets and prayer pots...Ll

 

Would it be worth buying my own ZS to use on fiends tasks and gargs, ect? I just hate having equipment I don't use and often end up selling stuff like that.

ZS is definitely something all slayers should have, though gargs have pretty pitiful defense so a whip works pretty well against them. Also, how on earth are you losing money at wfs? If you're praying piety and only going pray range if your hp gets low you should still be profiting.

 

Gargs are super weak to crush, apparently, and therefore i'd think ZS would own against them.

 

"Definitley something all slayers should have" Do you only use it for Wf tasks?

 

 

I dont see why your so hesitant to piety your tasks and use a cannon, you have 70m at your disposal, i manage to do all of that and not have more then a couple mil cash...

 

Probably cause i'm tight...:P

 

Also, you're probably way more pro then I am.

 

 

FYI, waterfiends are always profitable. Unless you're doing something completely wrong, of course.

Or something really,really right ;)

 

The current best moneymaker seems to be frost dragons with 4m an hour at little risk, but requires ridiculous levels for most people. Boss hunting is always high risk with good profit assuming average luck, but you need experience in it. Most noncombat moneymakers don't get anywhere near combat, but are low risk with guaranteed money gains. Slayer is most likely the most popular moneymaker, if you have good stats and have the right equipment, using turmoil/extremes will actually make you more money in the long run(as your killing speed increases dramatically).

 

Thanks for taking a go at the question. I know about combat money-makers, but I lack the skills for most of the big ones, and therefore am looking for something else to pass the time (and to get overloads with). By Risk, I really meant risk of losing money over a GE update and/or risk of dying (especially true for making unf).

 

Once again, thanks to everyong, especially Pere for his extremly detailed answer. In regards to the invent, nothing I didn't know, but perhaps more on the methodology (I pray range and piety the whole time). Looks like i'm back to pietying all tasks (after I get ovls >_>) How many prayer pots/super sets should I keep banked at a time? Loads? 2/3 tasks worth and restock as I need them?

[Obtaurian]

How many prayer pots/super sets should I keep banked at a time? Loads? 2/3 tasks worth and restock as I need them?

 

How often do you like using the GE? Answer this and you'll have the answer to your other question. Just stock as many as you want. Not that complicated.

[PereGrin]

Manage Thy Kingdom is an amazing way to make some cash. It would also solve most of your potion problems. If you set 10 guys on herbs, and 5 on maples, and keep about 1.3m in there constantly, you should do just fine. I have over 500 super def and super str, and over 1.2k super attacks. I also have about 600 prayer potions. All of this is solely from turning the herbs I get from MTK into potions. I buy the limpworts, and collect the snape grass, whiteberries, and eyes of newts myself. The Lantadyme, Dwarf weed, Harralander, Tarromin, and Avantoe you get should more then make up for the cash you put into the island. This leaves all the tree seeds and nests and things as pure profit.

 

If I leave the kingdom for about 6 days, starting from max favor, it uses 450k. I normally get about 2m worth of stuff back from it. It is far more profitable to sell everything you get from your island, and then buy what you need. Doing this does not grant any herblore experience tho.

[L0rdAki]

I already do MTK. I leave 10 on herbs and 5 on Fish. I prefer to sell the herbs and get cheaper herby exp, though.

 

Btw, here's a screen of my uber profits tab. I'm proud that i've gone a month without turning it into cash. <3 (Should I sell it, though?)

 

Without the cash, it comes to about 20-21m.

[aspeeder]

"Definitley something all slayers should have" Do you only use it for Wf tasks?

Wfs, gargs, and all dragons once you have access to super antifires.

[PereGrin]

I already do MTK. I leave 10 on herbs and 5 on Fish. I prefer to sell the herbs and get cheaper herby exp, though.

 

Btw, here's a screen of my uber profits tab. I'm proud that i've gone a month without turning it into cash. <3 (Should I sell it, though?)

 

*bank pic*

 

Without the cash, it comes to about 20-21m.

Cheaper herby exp? What is that?

 

All joking aside tho, what are you going to do with the money? If you have something you would like to buy, then yes, sell that stuff. If you don't really need anything, then i would probably keep it and hope for better conditions. For whatever reason, it appears that all herbs are crashing hard right now. :/