You're missing a LOT of stuff there.

 

We clearly have differences of opinion. Whereas I base mine on experience, you base yours on . . . nothing. This is becoming a silly argument over whether or not it's good to be a cheapskate, essentially. It's fine that you've convinced yourself (without reason) that an amulet of fury is not worth the price and is not a necessity, but it is incredibly irresponsible of you to run around posting misinformation on H&A topics.

 

You say the extra bonuses aren't worth it, but judging all of your other posts, you really have no idea what subtle changes in bonuses can do for you in intensive combat situations. +12 difference in magic defense is HUGE. +2 strength bonus is the difference between KOing and redbarring someone, and it will shave off hours and hours of training time when you're going to be spending hundreds of hours in combat. +2 prayer means using a few less doses of prayer potion, and for someone like you (that is, someone who hates spending money, apparently) it could save you millions over your career.

 

Why do I continue to argue with brick walls? :rolleyes:

 

I'll edit this in a sec for the OP.

 

I didn't respond to most of it because you're getting all worked up and this is going in circles.

I didn't respond to most of it because you're getting all worked up and this is going in circles.

It's not considered to be going in circles if only one person is making arguments and the other person gives no arguments and is HURR DURR 2 MACH MONEE

 

It's called talking to walls.

I didn't respond to most of it because you're getting all worked up and this is going in circles.

It's not considered to be going in circles if only one person is making arguments and the other person gives no arguments and is HURR DURR 2 MACH MONEE

 

It's called talking to walls.

 

Ok, so only one person's opinion and preferences are valid. Got it.

 

ps: Since I'm guessing you're a goon, we have a goon clan chat fyi

I didn't respond to most of it because you're getting all worked up and this is going in circles.

It's not considered to be going in circles if only one person is making arguments and the other person gives no arguments and is HURR DURR 2 MACH MONEE

 

It's called talking to walls.

 

Ok, so only one person's opinion and preferences are valid. Got it.

 

ps: Since I'm guessing you're a goon, we have a goon clan chat fyi

 

It's not preference. I'm right. You're wrong.

Its alright, I don't think OP is listening to his arguments anyway. Let him be inefficient as he wants.

Its alright, I don't think OP is listening to his arguments anyway. Let him be inefficient as he wants.

Usually, people are learned in school not to think black-white in this world, some people obviously aren't graduated yet.

 

Anyway, 99% efficient compared to 100% efficient, but I guess my attempts to get that into your head will be in vain

I didn't respond to most of it because you're getting all worked up and this is going in circles.

It's not considered to be going in circles if only one person is making arguments and the other person gives no arguments and is HURR DURR 2 MACH MONEE

 

It's called talking to walls.

 

 

^Funniest thing I've heard all day.

 

Bloodstain, it comes down to this: You are arguing with people who have more combat xp in ONE skill then you have in ALL. Don't think your ASSUMPTIONS about minor bonuses being negligible are a more powerful or convincing argument then our personal testing and first hand experience. Hell, I spent 30 hours at MA to get a ring with +6 offense and +6 defense, as well as rings with, among other things +8 strength. Why? Because its the best gear. In the long run, it will make up the time, and the sooner you start using superior gear, the more benefit you will reap from the minor bonuses in time.

 

TLDR version: Its the best, its worth it, get it.

 

Part of the reason I have a 52k xp/hr rate in RS, compared to most people's 20-30k is because I'm highly efficient. I'd suggest you learn to be efficient as well, in order to some day leave the land of the "noobs"

 

Vulaxi, I still consider you a noob, as is my prerogative. I remember when I was a noob too, I don't consider it bad, but remember, I also consider 98% of RS "noobs"

Besides, its the small thing like a tiny Str bonus that makes Bandos Gear so much more expensive than Barrows or Dragon. Tiny things matter. Fury is cheap.

 

/thread.

Its alright, I don't think OP is listening to his arguments anyway. Let him be inefficient as he wants.

Usually, people are learned in school not to think black-white in this world, some people obviously aren't graduated yet.

 

Anyway, 99% efficient compared to 100% efficient, but I guess my attempts to get that into your head will be in vain

 

You're underestimating the differences between a fury and a glory, which is pretty ironic, Mr. Black/white. I feel like I'm trying to explain Nietzsche to a bunch of children. :rolleyes:

Its alright, I don't think OP is listening to his arguments anyway. Let him be inefficient as he wants.

Usually, people are learned in school not to think black-white in this world, some people obviously aren't graduated yet.

 

Anyway, 99% efficient compared to 100% efficient, but I guess my attempts to get that into your head will be in vain

 

You're underestimating the differences between a fury and a glory, which is pretty ironic, Mr. Black/white. I feel like I'm trying to explain Nietzsche to a bunch of children. :rolleyes:

Well, mister 100% know-it-all-about-efficiency. Come with scientific numbers, tell us the xprate per hour killing with best equipment and a glory and then with a fury. Give numbers about how much less you're hit while you're already 99 defence.

Its alright, I don't think OP is listening to his arguments anyway. Let him be inefficient as he wants.

Usually, people are learned in school not to think black-white in this world, some people obviously aren't graduated yet.

 

Anyway, 99% efficient compared to 100% efficient, but I guess my attempts to get that into your head will be in vain

 

You're underestimating the differences between a fury and a glory, which is pretty ironic, Mr. Black/white. I feel like I'm trying to explain Nietzsche to a bunch of children. :rolleyes:

Well, mister 100% know-it-all-about-efficiency. Come with scientific numbers, tell us the xprate per hour killing with best equipment and a glory and then with a fury. Give numbers about how much less you're hit while you're already 99 defence.

 

I think Morning may have more "efficient" things to waste his time on that to please ignorant people. Anyway even if he does prove that a fury is better you will find some way to "dis prove" it as that is the mindset of the runescape community now days, e.g. Only my word is right everybody else is wrong.

Its alright, I don't think OP is listening to his arguments anyway. Let him be inefficient as he wants.

Usually, people are learned in school not to think black-white in this world, some people obviously aren't graduated yet.

 

Anyway, 99% efficient compared to 100% efficient, but I guess my attempts to get that into your head will be in vain

 

You're underestimating the differences between a fury and a glory, which is pretty ironic, Mr. Black/white. I feel like I'm trying to explain Nietzsche to a bunch of children. :rolleyes:

Well, mister 100% know-it-all-about-efficiency. Come with scientific numbers, tell us the xprate per hour killing with best equipment and a glory and then with a fury. Give numbers about how much less you're hit while you're already 99 defence.

 

I think Morning may have more "efficient" things to waste his time on that to please ignorant people. Anyway even if he does prove that a fury is better you will find some way to "dis prove" it as that is the mindset of the runescape community now days, e.g. Only my word is right everybody else is wrong.

I have never disagreed a fury is better. Quote me where I said he will receive worse xp?

Gear:

Full slayer helm

Fire Cape

Glory

Chaotic Rapier

Rune Defender

Bandos Chestplate

Bandos Tassets

Barrows Gloves

Dragon Boots

Berserker Ring (i)

 

Strength bonus: 146

Prayer bonus: 7

 

Max hit: 647

Average hit: 323.5

Prayer points per hour: 1607

 

--

 

Replacing glory with fury:

 

Strength bonus: 148

Prayer bonus: 9

 

Max hit: 653

Average hit: 326.5

Prayer points per hour: 1521

 

==

 

Increased kill speed of 0.93%. This equates to about 5.99 hours saved, for a player who does not use a cannon, on the way to 99 slayer (would be even more saved time if the player were not already maxed combats and using top gear). 6 hours saved = AT LEAST 12m saved (literally anyone with 100 hours in this game can make 2m/h, if you can't you aren't smart enough to figure it out).

 

Savings of 85 prayer points per hour (5344 gp saved per hour). On the way to 99 slayer, this saves you about 3473600 GP.

 

Total savings of using a fury to 99 slayer: 15.47m.

 

Note: these benefits are even more pronounced if the player is lower leveled and has less developed gear.

Fury pwns Glory.

NUFF SAID.

Gear:

Full slayer helm

Fire Cape

Glory

Chaotic Rapier

Rune Defender

Bandos Chestplate

Bandos Tassets

Barrows Gloves

Dragon Boots

Berserker Ring (i)

 

Strength bonus: 146

Prayer bonus: 7

 

Max hit: 647

Average hit: 323.5

Prayer points per hour: 1607

 

--

 

Replacing glory with fury:

 

Strength bonus: 148

Prayer bonus: 9

 

Max hit: 653

Average hit: 326.5

Prayer points per hour: 1521

 

==

 

Increased kill speed of 0.93%. This equates to about 5.99 hours saved, for a player who does not use a cannon, on the way to 99 slayer (would be even more saved time if the player were not already maxed combats and using top gear). 6 hours saved = AT LEAST 12m saved (literally anyone with 100 hours in this game can make 2m/h, if you can't you aren't smart enough to figure it out).

 

Savings of 85 prayer points per hour (5344 gp saved per hour). On the way to 99 slayer, this saves you about 3473600 GP.

 

Total savings of using a fury to 99 slayer: 15.47m.

 

Note: these benefits are even more pronounced if the player is lower leveled and has less developed gear.

 

Looks like my 99-100% efficiency was quite close to the reality. At least thanks for the experiment, at least now someone can make an informed decision

In other words, it is worth it.

In other words, it is worth it.

 

This. Thanks Bladewing.

Thanks for the fast respons. Atm I slay alot with Slayer helm / guthans / whip / defender / glory / ROW. Should I get a fury first? Or is there other gear I should get first?

i also (range) slay alot. sometimes even with my tank gear i find myself wishing i had a fury, but with that setup your first order of business should be a zerker ring since it has been proven that ROW's don't help much at all, and actually decrease your chances at some drops. also a firecape would be worthwhile to get. but besides those two, a fury should be your next upgrade, probably followed by a dfs for some tasks.

 

I really don't think a Zerker is going to do that much. +4 str bonus for like what, 4mil? Nty.

 

Honestly, fury is worth it if you have the money - Zerker is probably worth it if you have the money to spare. ALL high end, maxed gear is worth it - the question is simply priorities. Going broke is a bad idea imo, and so is selling a bunch of other gear that you like.

 

I have to agree with most however - 70 prayer, 68-69 summon first. Maybe 79 if you can get that far, healing scrolls rock imo. I don't think YOU should get fury because there are (in my opinion and the opinion of many here) much more uesful, practical things to spend that money on.

Not to mention the game doesn't end after 99 slayer. There is still lots of MHing to do after that :P.