Spending money WISE IS a good advice. You guys would even pay 100M for 1 extra strength bonus. You can call yourself good advicers, but you'll never be good economists in real life. A cost-benefit-analysis is needed, in economy you don't survive with the thought 'I'll just pay whatever it costs to get the best thing on the market, no matter how expensive this is'.

I am 99 in all combat related stats, and have 500m+ in the bank, are you telling me there's a different item that gives me more bonuses for less GP? I already have berserker ring and Neitiznot helm. Please tell me, using your cost-benefit analysis, what I should spend my money on instead of a fury.

 

I don't know if anyone has said this, but you can resell your fury when you're done training combat, so you lose no money aside from the forgone interest that 15m could make you flipping.

 

 

An amulet of fury is superior to an amulet of glory in every way with the exception of accuracy bonuses. It is one of the first "elite tier" items you should buy, but I agree with other posters that the OP should get a bunyip and piety before he considers a fury (which he's already stated he's going to do).

 

Do you need a fury? No.

Do you need a chaotic rapier? No.

Do you need a berserker ring? No.

Do you need dragon claws? No.

Do you need a soul wars/fire/ardougne 3 cape? No.

Do you need dragon boots? No.

Do you need a full slayer helm when slaying? No.

Do you need barrows gloves? No.

 

WE CAN JUS USE ROON N RUNE SCIM 4 EVERYTING AMIRITE@@@@

 

The thing is, some people ask for advice expecting decent advice, and people telling him NOT to get an item that will ALWAYS be useful for the entirety of his Runescape career (until a better necklace is released, which is unlikely any time soon) is irresponsible and very uninformed. I'm glad the OP didn't listen to everyone who tried to talk him out of getting an incredibly useful, staple item.

 

CR, DCLAWS, slayer helm, barrows glove all give great bonuses for their price. I can't say the same for fury. If we're playing that game, then judging by your reg date I won't fault you for not knowing what you're talking about. All I'm saying is that I value a useful teleport over <20 more def and +2 str. You may value the <20 def and +2 str over the glory. If you are someone who is "OMG I NEED THE BEST GEAR", then yeah sure, go for it. Go get bandos for the minor str bonus and lesser def bonuses too. But if you don't see why such small improvements are worth the 10M+, then why bother? Your average scaper isn't concerned how many hours not picking drops up saves on the way to 99 slayer, or how much time using piety on every task saves, etc.

 

That's fine, but don't assume I don't know what I'm talking about. I've got more than enough money to buy the best gear , but I don't because even with enough money I don't think it's worth the price, when it was 3M yeah sure, but 10M+? I don't value such small bonuses so highly. As an aside, I've been active in RS since a little bit after RS2 was released, I don't enjoy grinding or going for 99s so I guess that means I don't know what I'm talking about though. Welp.

K, the person before me has low melee stats, so its easy to see where he is coming from, about bandos. It has higher range bonuses mate. At places like bandos, where you pray melee, or dks, where you take more range damage then anything, the range bonuses really shine. As for the strength, it does make a difference. The difference between my max without serker (I) and another ring at TDS was over 25 damage, which is quite significant.

 

1.) Its the best amulet in the game, except AS.

 

2.) +12 defense, +2 Strength, and +2 strength is quite significant. B tassies only have +1 prayer, and +2 strength, and are 20m+, although granted they also serve as a bandos item, have great range defense (Mainly DKS) and look sweets (to most people)

 

3.) When you already have all the buyable skills for combat, you'll want the best gear, and some of that gear even before maxing out prayer/summon/herb etc. People pay a premium for small bonuses (Serker ring, for example).

 

4.) If you can, why not get it, unless you have something else to buy. TBH, you'd be better off selling guthans, getting 68 summoning, and 70 prayer, and buying fury.

 

5.) The teleports are fairly worthless. I can assure you, tabbing to house and then glorying from a mounted glory when you need one is more efficient then losing the prayer and strength bonus of a fury

 

As to vulaxi, the definition of what makes a noob is rather subjective. Personally, I don't find it necessarily bad to be a noob, I have many on my friends list. A person with untrimmed cooking, strength. fletching, etc would normally qualify as a noob in my book. Its not a negative thing always. However, I find that fact that you are surprised that someone calls you a noob, and blame it on ignorance, is rather laughably naive.

However, I find that fact that you are surprised that someone calls you a noob, and blame it on ignorance, is rather laughably naive.

 

Oh I'm sorry, how am I supposed to respond when someone tries to insult me because I value different things than them, while still being able to see the discussion from their POV?

 

Are people who buy rares noobs too?

However, I find that fact that you are surprised that someone calls you a noob, and blame it on ignorance, is rather laughably naive.

 

Oh I'm sorry, how am I supposed to respond when someone tries to insult me because I value different things than them, while still being able to see the discussion from their POV?

 

Are people who buy rares noobs too?

 

He was talking to me. Noob is not subjective in the slightest. It is derived from newbie. Those who don't use it to talk about a newbie have no idea what the word means. I'm not saying it's bad to be a noob, everyone is at one point. I, however, am not new to the game, so I am not a noob. However, you calling me a noob for having a cooking skill cape is ignorance. You can slice and dice any way you choose, the fact of the matter is, you see my cooking skill cape and associate with noob. You can twist your post and say you didn't call me one, but you for sure implied it, and even troacctid (sorry I butchered your name, was never able to spell it right) noticed it. My calling you ignorant is not naive at all.

 

OT: You know, to be honest, I'd have to take bloodstain's side and say that the Fury is not worth the price, however, if you have the money, and enjoy combat a lot, and feel like spending that much, go right ahead. I probably won't even buy a Fury because I'm not hard into combat, and most of the time I forget a teleport, and my glory comes in very handy.

I liked it when I had it, but once it hit 16mil I sold it since the money was worth more to me at the time. Anyways I have Arcane Stream and Amulet of Ranging, which imo are both far better than Fury if you are maging/ranging of course(as far as hiting better). As far as melee goes I'm fine with glory since I'm maxed in cb and slayer so I do not have a great need for it.

 

I guess it all boils down to personal preference.

CR, DCLAWS, slayer helm, barrows glove all give great bonuses for their price. I can't say the same for fury.

 

I can.

 

If we're playing that game, then judging by your reg date I won't fault you for not knowing what you're talking about.

I'll assume that you're joking, because any sensible person would have ascertained that one's join date has no relation to their knowledge of Runescape.

 

All I'm saying is that I value a useful teleport over <20 more def and +2 str. You may value the <20 def and +2 str over the glory.

 

Guess what? I have a fury AND a better teleport than a glory! I value efficiency over stupidity.

 

If you are someone who is "OMG I NEED THE BEST GEAR", then yeah sure, go for it.

 

As opposed to "OMG I NEED THE WORST GEAR"?

 

Go get bandos for the minor str bonus and lesser def bonuses too.

 

Best melee armor in the game.*

 

But if you don't see why such small improvements are worth the 10M+, then why bother?

You really don't see why? Well, I suppose you DO have mediocre stats and little to no experience MHing, so that's understandable. Skillers giving people combat advice . . . Lol.

 

Your average scaper isn't concerned how many hours not picking drops up saves on the way to 99 slayer, or how much time using piety on every task saves, etc.

 

I agree with you, but I assume that people who ask for advice want the best advice, so I give them the best advice (or none if I don't know the answer). If the OP didn't want good advice, he should've clarified in his post (but that's neither here nor there, as the OP was receptive to those who gave him good advice).

 

That's fine, but don't assume I don't know what I'm talking about.

 

The fact that you're arguing with me right now is making me assume even harder.

 

I've got more than enough money to buy the best gear ,

 

I don't believe you.

 

but I don't because even with enough money I don't think it's worth the price, when it was 3M yeah sure, but 10M+? I don't value such small bonuses so highly.

 

If you really did have enough money to buy the best gear, you'd be singing a very different tune, hence why I don't believe you. You value lesser teleports, gotcha.

 

As an aside, I've been active in RS since a little bit after RS2 was released, I don't enjoy grinding or going for 99s so I guess that means I don't know what I'm talking about though. Welp.

 

It's more the fact that you have ZERO firsthand experience with any serious combat and the fact that you're arguing with a whole host of players who have many times as much combat experience as you. It has nothing to do with 99s and grinding, so don't pull the "JUS CUS U NOLIFED U TINK YUR COOL" argument.

 

As an aside, I've been playing longer than you if you started just after RS2 came out. You seem to be implying that you've been playing longer than me (which is completely irrelevant, but I'll humor you), so I thought I'd quash that little idea of yours now.

 

EDIT:

 

I liked it when I had it, but once it hit 16mil I sold it since the money was worth more to me at the time. Anyways I have Arcane Stream and Amulet of Ranging, which imo are both far better than Fury if you are maging/ranging of course(as far as hiting better). As far as melee goes I'm fine with glory since I'm maxed in cb and slayer so I do not have a great need for it.

 

I guess it all boils down topersonal preference.

 

Fury is much better than an amulet of ranging due to its prayer bonus. Ranged can achieve very high accuracy bonuses as it is, so an extra +5 wont do much (conversely, +5 magic accuracy is very valuable).

There is nothing wrong with a glory, it has very good stats and usefull teleports, however saying that it is in anyway better than a glory should be considered delibrate misinformation and be removed by moderators. A fury is one of the best items within reach of the average scaper. Do not understate it's usefullness.

However, I find that fact that you are surprised that someone calls you a noob, and blame it on ignorance, is rather laughably naive.

 

Oh I'm sorry, how am I supposed to respond when someone tries to insult me because I value different things than them, while still being able to see the discussion from their POV?

 

Are people who buy rares noobs too?

 

He was talking to me. Noob is not subjective in the slightest. It is derived from newbie. Those who don't use it to talk about a newbie have no idea what the word means. I'm not saying it's bad to be a noob, everyone is at one point. I, however, am not new to the game, so I am not a noob. However, you calling me a noob for having a cooking skill cape is ignorance. You can slice and dice any way you choose, the fact of the matter is, you see my cooking skill cape and associate with noob. You can twist your post and say you didn't call me one, but you for sure implied it, and even troacctid (sorry I butchered your name, was never able to spell it right) noticed it. My calling you ignorant is not naive at all.

 

The word you're looking for is Newb.

I honestly look at the word Noob as being something completely different.

Just for you

 

+ random junk and treasure trail items in bank

 

 

 

 

If we're playing that game, then judging by your reg date I won't fault you for not knowing what you're talking about.

I'll assume that you're joking, because any sensible person would have ascertained that one's join date has no relation to their knowledge of Runescape.

 

And skills do because? I knew you've been playing since before your reg date, that was the point.

 

 

If you are someone who is "OMG I NEED THE BEST GEAR", then yeah sure, go for it.

 

As opposed to "OMG I NEED THE WORST GEAR"?

As opposed to gear that doesn't suck and gets the job done perfectly well.

 

Go get bandos for the minor str bonus and lesser def bonuses too.

 

Best melee armor in the game.*

 

Less defense bonuses than barrows. No healing capabilities of guthans.

 

 

Your average scaper isn't concerned how many hours not picking drops up saves on the way to 99 slayer, or how much time using piety on every task saves, etc.

 

I agree with you, but I assume that people who ask for advice want the best advice, so I give them the best advice (or none if I don't know the answer). If the OP didn't want good advice, he should've clarified in his post (but that's neither here nor there, as the OP was receptive to those who gave him good advice).

 

"Best" is subjective, if you value a 13M ammy over other things 13M can get you, then fine go for it. But there are people who don't need a fury, even if it's the best ammy in the game.

 

 

 

 

 

 

As an aside, I've been active in RS since a little bit after RS2 was released, I don't enjoy grinding or going for 99s so I guess that means I don't know what I'm talking about though. Welp.

 

It's more the fact that you have ZERO firsthand experience with any serious combat and the fact that you're arguing with a whole host of players who have many times as much combat experience as you. It has nothing to do with 99s and grinding, so don't pull the "JUS CUS U NOLIFED U TINK YUR COOL" argument.

 

As an aside, I've been playing longer than you if you started just after RS2 came out. You seem to be implying that you've been playing longer than me (which is completely irrelevant, but I'll humor you), so I thought I'd quash that little idea of yours now.

 

I wasn't saying you no lifed, I've probably played a comparable amount to your time played, I just don't find it fun to grind skills and have no desire to get a 99.

 

You seem to be quite the hostile person over a silly thing like an amulet

Divine is more in GE than that, and that's not even counting its street. Max gear my ass.

Just for you

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+ random junk and treasure trail items in bank

 

Impressive, though nowhere near enough to afford everything.

 

 

If we're playing that game, then judging by your reg date I won't fault you for not knowing what you're talking about.

I'll assume that you're joking, because any sensible person would have ascertained that one's join date has no relation to their knowledge of Runescape.

 

And skills do because? I knew you've been playing since before your reg date, that was the point.

 

They don't necessarily, but the LACK of skills is indication of lack of experience. Your point literally makes no sense. Feel free to elaborate.

If you are someone who is "OMG I NEED THE BEST GEAR", then yeah sure, go for it.

 

As opposed to "OMG I NEED THE WORST GEAR"?

As opposed to gear that doesn't suck and gets the job done perfectly well.

 

Rune doesn't suck and gets the job done perfectly well. Prove me wrong. Oh, wait . . .

Go get bandos for the minor str bonus and lesser def bonuses too.

 

Best melee armor in the game.*

 

Less defense bonuses than barrows. No healing capabilities of guthans.

 

LOL. Higher ranged defense, strength, and prayer than barrows, and those are the bonuses that matter (that and magic defense, which neither armor has). When you're a high level player, defense matters very little in most situations. No one uses Guthan's for healing anymore.

Your average scaper isn't concerned how many hours not picking drops up saves on the way to 99 slayer, or how much time using piety on every task saves, etc.

 

I agree with you, but I assume that people who ask for advice want the best advice, so I give them the best advice (or none if I don't know the answer). If the OP didn't want good advice, he should've clarified in his post (but that's neither here nor there, as the OP was receptive to those who gave him good advice).

 

"Best" is subjective,

 

By "best" advice, I mean the most efficient advice. I'm not a therapist; it is not my job to listen to a poster's feelings in order to discern his playing type so that I can tailor-make my advice just for him/her. I will tell you that rushing is the fastest way to gain dungeoneering experience, even if that's not what you want to hear. Sorry.

if you value a 13M ammy over other things 13M can get you, then fine go for it.

 

We've been over this.

 

But there are people who don't need a fury, even if it's the best ammy in the game.

 

"There are people who don't need armor, even though it's useful." See what I did there?

As an aside, I've been active in RS since a little bit after RS2 was released, I don't enjoy grinding or going for 99s so I guess that means I don't know what I'm talking about though. Welp.

 

It's more the fact that you have ZERO firsthand experience with any serious combat and the fact that you're arguing with a whole host of players who have many times as much combat experience as you. It has nothing to do with 99s and grinding, so don't pull the "JUS CUS U NOLIFED U TINK YUR COOL" argument.

 

As an aside, I've been playing longer than you if you started just after RS2 came out. You seem to be implying that you've been playing longer than me (which is completely irrelevant, but I'll humor you), so I thought I'd quash that little idea of yours now.

 

I wasn't saying you no lifed, I've probably played a comparable amount to your time played, I just don't find it fun to grind skills and have no desire to get a 99.

 

You seem to be quite the hostile person over a silly thing like an amulet

 

I get hostile when people like you try to spread misinformation intentionally (I'm no longer assuming it's out of ignorance, as you seem quite intent on making your point).

 

Responses in bold. You should know before constructing your rebuttal that an amulet of fury is irrefutably and undeniably better than a glory, and that 15m is easy to make REGARDLESS of your levels. As Bladewing mentioned earlier, it can also be sold back for minimal loss (but a lot of time saved). It is one of the first elite tier items that any player should invest in.

Responses in bold. You should know before constructing your rebuttal that an amulet of fury is irrefutably and undeniably better than a glory, and that 15m is easy to make REGARDLESS of your levels. As Bladewing mentioned earlier, it can also be sold back for minimal loss (but a lot of time saved). It is one of the first elite tier items that any player should invest in.

 

This, even with my stats I can get 15 mil in just 15 days of being online for 40 minutes each day doing dailies. It's definitely worth the cash because you probably wont have to replace it for a long time. You should sell Guthans and try to get 68 Summoning aswell as 70 Prayer.

I'm working on 70 prayer atm and i'll go for 68 summoning after that. When i'm done with those two i'll decide if I buy a fury or not. At the moment i'm not really sure what to do because I still think that 16mill is alot of money for fury's stats and I could use the money for other gear (like karil's, verac, bandos, etc.).

I'm working on 70 prayer atm and i'll go for 68 summoning after that. When i'm done with those two i'll decide if I buy a fury or not. At the moment i'm not really sure what to do because I still think that 16mill is alot of money for fury's stats and I could use the money for other gear (like karil's, verac, bandos, etc.).

 

You definitely want Karil's and a Verac's skirt before a fury, but fury > Bandos. If you're more of the slayer type, I can give you a list of stuff to buy and in what order to buy it all, if you'd like.

Responses in bold. You should know before constructing your rebuttal that an amulet of fury is irrefutably and undeniably better than a glory, and that 15m is easy to make REGARDLESS of your levels. As Bladewing mentioned earlier, it can also be sold back for minimal loss (but a lot of time saved). It is one of the first elite tier items that any player should invest in.

I agree. Granted, I got mine for 3m, but 15m is easily worth it and easy to get. Do WGS if you can, that dragon armour piece is 3.6m or something. Then dailes + farming and you got a fury in a week or thereabouts... Also, hometabs rule teleporting if you have a decent house. Grab a chisel from your workshop and you have teleports to:

• All glory teleports.
  
• All house portals.
  
• Varrock, Falador, Lumbridge, Ardougne, Kharyll and Camelot.
  
• All these right by an altar and summoning obelisk, barrows repairs, banking service.
  

I sold my fury and while ago when it was rising. About 2 weeks later they made that stupid update that made onyx gems much harder to obtain. I have regretted not having it ever since. I always presumed it would be floating around at 4-5M. Don't forget that you can always sell it later. It's not like you are flushing 15M down the toilet never to be seen again. I am planning to buy back my fury soon as I have quite a pile of cash in my bank doing nothing.

Yes fury is worth the price.

Yes, it's worth it. End of discussion - why do you think everyone has one?

Yes, it's worth it. End of discussion - why do you think everyone has one?

Most of them bought it when it was indeed still worth buying, when the fury was 4-8m worth. Only a very small fraction of people wearing fury's nowadays have actually paid 10+M for it

So much discussion over this...

 

Of course fury is worth buying if doesn't break your bank. You can always resell y'know.

 

People who say to get bandos first are idiots though. If you want to get elite gear, I'd personally get it in this order:

Fury > zerker > claws > bandos > dfs (lol at this last one, I never use it, but okay).

I just noticed bloodstain was arguing to get a glory when he has rares that give no stats what so ever and enough cash to afford a fury. :unsure:

I'm working on 70 prayer atm and i'll go for 68 summoning after that. When i'm done with those two i'll decide if I buy a fury or not. At the moment i'm not really sure what to do because I still think that 16mill is alot of money for fury's stats and I could use the money for other gear (like karil's, verac, bandos, etc.).

 

You definitely want Karil's and a Verac's skirt before a fury, but fury > Bandos. If you're more of the slayer type, I can give you a list of stuff to buy and in what order to buy it all, if you'd like.

Well a list like that would be nice, but it makes me feel like a noob for not knowing all this stuff :oops:

I just noticed bloodstain was arguing to get a glory when he has rares that give no stats what so ever and enough cash to afford a fury. :unsure:

 

I love rares, and I realize they give no bonuses.

You should know before constructing your rebuttal that an amulet of fury is irrefutably and undeniably better than a glory

 

I haven't denied that a fury is better. All I've been saying is that some people don't care about the small improvements (me), and some people (you) do. But you keep talking about it like it's a necessity

 

Impressive, though nowhere near enough to afford everything.

It can get me bandos, barrows, godsword, whip, staff of light, etc. And I'm pretty sure overloads, possibly 92 prayer. What else is there to need?

I just noticed bloodstain was arguing to get a glory when he has rares that give no stats what so ever and enough cash to afford a fury. :unsure:

 

I love rares, and I realize they give no bonuses.

You should know before constructing your rebuttal that an amulet of fury is irrefutably and undeniably better than a glory

 

I haven't denied that a fury is better. All I've been saying is that some people don't care about the small improvements (me), and some people (you) do. But you keep talking about it like it's a necessity

 

Impressive, though nowhere near enough to afford everything.

It can get me bandos, barrows, godsword, whip, staff of light, etc. And I'm pretty sure overloads, possibly 92 prayer. What else is there to need?

 

You're missing a LOT of stuff there.

 

We clearly have differences of opinion. Whereas I base mine on experience, you base yours on . . . nothing. This is becoming a silly argument over whether or not it's good to be a cheapskate, essentially. It's fine that you've convinced yourself (without reason) that an amulet of fury is not worth the price and is not a necessity, but it is incredibly irresponsible of you to run around posting misinformation on H&A topics.

 

You say the extra bonuses aren't worth it, but judging all of your other posts, you really have no idea what subtle changes in bonuses can do for you in intensive combat situations. +12 difference in magic defense is HUGE. +2 strength bonus is the difference between KOing and redbarring someone, and it will shave off hours and hours of training time when you're going to be spending hundreds of hours in combat. +2 prayer means using a few less doses of prayer potion, and for someone like you (that is, someone who hates spending money, apparently) it could save you millions over your career.

 

Why do I continue to argue with brick walls? :rolleyes:

 

Well a list like that would be nice, but it makes me feel like a noob for not knowing all this stuff

 

That's what these topics are for. ;)

 

Gear can be sorted into two categories: staple items and interchangeable items.

 

Staple:

 

Barrows gloves

Rune defender

Dragon boots

Full slayer helm

Berserker ring

Amulet of fury

 

For staple items, you should definitely get barrows gloves and a rune defender as soon as possible (you probably already have them, though). Dragon boots are very cheap, but you probably have those, too. A full slayer helmet is pretty cheap, too, though I recall hearing a lot of my friends complaining about how hard it is to buy a hexcrest or focus sight on the GE. Nonetheless, it's a relatively cheap and effective upgrade. We've been over the fury. Berserker ring is last, but definitely a good investment once you can comfortably afford it.

 

Interchangeable items:

 

Abyssal whip (goes without saying, and is probably the most important item behind a black mask)

Verac's skirt (high defense and prayer bonus)

Full proselyte

Fire cape

Soul wars cape

Ardougne cape 3

Karil's top and skirt

Zamorakian spear

Ahrim's top and bottom (at 93 slayer)

Staff of light (93 slayer)

Infinity boots (93 slayer)

Seers' ring (93 slayer)

Arcane necklace (93 slayer)

Bandos plate and tassets

Chaotic rapier

 

Verac's, Karil's, and ZS should come before fury. When you hit 93 slayer, you should easily be able to afford the gear for ice wyrms, and you should have an arc necklace by then. You should only buy Bandos after 95 prayer and 92+ herblore (consider parting with your fury for these, but it'd be better to keep it and use it to make more money). You should get a fire cape, SW cape, Ardy cape, and chaotic rapier as soon as possible.

 

Hope that helps to put things in perspective. I also highly recommend using a cannon on dags, velds, and spectres, even if you don't normally use one. You should always be trying to raise your prayer and herblore levels.