September 28, 201015 yr Don't mention Chaotic rapier because i hate Dungeoneering. Levels:99 Attack and strength with 99 Prayer (Turmoil) Extreme potions Onyx ring (I) and Berserker ring (I) Elite Excalibur Pack yak So which one would be best? I don't wanna use Unicorn. I am using Verac's set at the moment and it's working good:)
September 28, 201015 yr All the high level slayers tell me to use a spear, but that might be because full sets are worthless to slayers (we need a empty helm slot). So i would say a z spear, but i dont know what's best for camping.Just time your trips, see how many you kill and then you'll know.
September 28, 201015 yr Spear. #Solace | Solace Senior Member | Solace Forums | Solace MemberlistI'm making a killing here, I think I should be on top of the world just chilling here.
September 28, 201015 yr spear qeltar was definitely on crack when he suggested veracs How to Chin Nechyraels for fast XP and profit
September 28, 201015 yr Spear, but perhaps keep the armor part of veracs, just not the weapon. In response your signature. 13 days of dungeoneering would be 312 hours. I got my chaotic in about 2 weeks, averaging like 4 hours a day. Which is only like 56 hours, Or about 2 and 1/2 days. But yeah, I don't really like dungeoneering all that much myself, at least not on w117 with random strangers.
September 28, 201015 yr Author Spear, but perhaps keep the armor part of veracs, just not the weapon. In response your signature. 13 days of dungeoneering would be 312 hours. I got my chaotic in about 2 weeks, averaging like 4 hours a day. Which is only like 56 hours, Or about 2 and 1/2 days. But yeah, I don't really like dungeoneering all that much myself, at least not on w117 with random strangers.Thanks for your response. The signature is SOLO DUNGEONEERING, not team. Glad it's alot less in team.
September 28, 201015 yr Spear because of both the stab option, super antifires, and you can get out 15% attack with the Slayer helm which you couldn't with the Verac's set (and imo Veracs isn't too consistent with it's null defence ability) I'm no slayer master but I know if I had super antifires I would sell my whip for a spear. Popoto.~<3
September 28, 201015 yr Author I am actually not on task. So you should stop assuming it lol. And i think Verac'sset>Zamorakian spear off task. I got that impression.
September 28, 201015 yr Spear, spear spear. Dragon drops: 82 (2 claws)Dagannoth kings drops: 73Barrows item count: 51GWD drops: 54 (5 hilts: 1x bandos, 3x saradomin, 1x zamorak)Whips: 4Sigils: 1x spectral (FFA), 1x arcane (FFA)
September 28, 201015 yr I am actually not on task. So you should stop assuming it lol. And i think Verac'sset>Zamorakian spear off task. I got that impression. No. ZS > Verac's regardless of whether or not you're slaying. To put it bluntly, [bleep] off.
September 28, 201015 yr Author I am actually not on task. So you should stop assuming it lol. And i think Verac'sset>Zamorakian spear off task. I got that impression. No. ZS > Verac's regardless of whether or not you're slaying.That's not the impression i got when i killed with Verac and Zamorakian spear. I found myself hitting more 0s with spear.
September 28, 201015 yr I am actually not on task. So you should stop assuming it lol. And i think Verac'sset>Zamorakian spear off task. I got that impression. No. ZS > Verac's regardless of whether or not you're slaying.That's not the impression i got when i killed with Verac and Zamorakian spear. I found myself hitting more 0s with spear. Impressions don't hold a lot of weight when it comes to testing and data. ZS is more accurate, faster, and allows you to use better armor. It's undeniably better than Verac's. To put it bluntly, [bleep] off.
September 28, 201015 yr Author Impressions don't hold a lot of weight when it comes to testing and data. ZS is more accurate, faster, and allows you to use better armor. It's undeniably better than Verac's.1) Verac's flail has good stab attack bonus and it has stab attack option2) Verac's set have ignore effect So i think my impression may be right. Thanks for tips though, but i THINK that spear is best on task.
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September 28, 201015 yr with your stats, I find it EXTREMELY odd that verac's out performs spear. What kind of setup are you using? something is just wrong here. Fisher/Woodcut------Me-----Miner/crafter----Stabber----Leecher ^Golvellius must be so proud^
September 28, 201015 yr Author with your stats, I find it EXTREMELY odd that verac's out performs spear. What kind of setup are you using? something is just wrong here.I think both of them are equal. Just that when you wear Veracs (high prayer bonus), and get hit more (melee damage). When you wear Spear (less prayer bonus) but not so much damage. I have gone back and fourth with Verac's and Zamorakian spear, but i will this time settle with Veracs. You have to remember:- As boost levels go down Zamorakian spear becomes less accurate. Verac's set too, but it still has ignore defence effect- Verac's flail has +68 stab attack bonus and can ignore.
September 28, 201015 yr That didn't really answer what I asked.And about your stats going down. how low do you let your stats drain? And even a 99/99 stats, the stab defense of Mithril dragons is so low, you rarely miss even at those stats. Fisher/Woodcut------Me-----Miner/crafter----Stabber----Leecher ^Golvellius must be so proud^
September 28, 201015 yr I'm not going to try to convince you that the spear is better, because you've already decided that veracs is better.and consequently have wasted the time of every other person by asking that question. but berserker(i) > onyx(i) always, unless you're hybriding or really really need non-crush defense.
September 28, 201015 yr I'm not going to try to convince you that the spear is better, because you've already decided that veracs is better.and consequently have wasted the time of every other person by asking that question. but berserker(i) > onyx(i) always, unless you're hybriding or really really need non-crush defense.This, You assume. Do a test of 30 minutes with each. I can guarantee ZS>Veracs in any instance. [hide=Drops]Araxxor Eye x1 Leg pieces x2GWD: 5000 Addy bar Steam B Staff x3 Z Spear x6 Sara. Hilt x2 Bandos Hilt x2 (LS, Solo)SS x6 (1 LS)Tormented Demons: Shard x6 Slice x5 Claws x9 Limbs x3DKS: Archer x21 Warrior x31 Berserker x30 Axe x51[/hide]
September 28, 201015 yr Yup. I don't get why people ask for advice, then keep doing what they were doing despite the overwhelming response being that they're doinitrong. SirHemen, do what Stonewall said and do a 30 minute test with each. The ZS will undoubtedly fare better. To put it bluntly, [bleep] off.
September 28, 201015 yr Try a CLS if you don't want a rapier. But seriously, ZS > Verac's. I hope you're using extremes/turmoil. I piety the fool.
September 28, 201015 yr You should be wearing something like this, so I don't see how prayer bonus can become an issue. If you're wearing this, there's some information you haven't told us, because Zs is a lot better then verac's at mithrils. Also inb4commentsoname Dragon drops: 82 (2 claws)Dagannoth kings drops: 73Barrows item count: 51GWD drops: 54 (5 hilts: 1x bandos, 3x saradomin, 1x zamorak)Whips: 4Sigils: 1x spectral (FFA), 1x arcane (FFA)
September 28, 201015 yr This was the same with his zerker i vs onyx i topic. He asks for advice even though he already thinks that he knows the answer and will ignore all the other advice. Just for the record, I'm going with zspear, but I don't feel like doing the DPS calculations to prove it if he's just gonna ignore me.
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