So, I am slaying for super $ to train herb/prayer etc.

 

Now, here is the question;

 

Whenever I run out of ppots, Super Atk/Str pots, I don't buy the pots. I buy all the mats and make them myself. I know it costs more to do it that way, but it gives *some* experience.

 

How inefficient is that, or is that okay?

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tix0mH-83pgzsARJj6D9vvA&output=html

 

That spreadsheet gives you up to date gp/exp and exp/hour on all herblore training methods. The only way to train herblore that's remotely sensible is to choose a potion with a good balance of cost and speed for you, and train herblore exclusively that way. Making whatever potion you end up needing is extremely likely to waste your time and money for NO benefit at all. Save your cash by buying potions as you need them, and put that money instead toward a method worth doing.

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tix0mH-83pgzsARJj6D9vvA&output=html

 

That spreadsheet gives you up to date gp/exp and exp/hour on all herblore training methods. The only way to train herblore that's remotely sensible is to choose a potion with a good balance of cost and speed for you, and train herblore exclusively that way. Making whatever potion you end up needing is extremely likely to waste your time and money for NO benefit at all. Save your cash by buying potions as you need them, and put that money instead toward a method worth doing.

 

 

Thank you for the spread sheet.

 

Justification on the basis that I use the potions is what helped me decide to do what I have been doing; I'll look into that.

 

With the Super Attacks I am doing well. It has a cheaper gp/xp than Super Energies (the commonly made pot for training at my level). With Prayer and Super Strength, I am ravaging my cashpile, however.

Also, extreme pots are 100% loss theoretically, but if you value only the seconds (e.g. super attack is worth as much as extreme attack), they're very cheap.

Also, extreme pots are 100% loss theoretically, but if you value only the seconds (e.g. super attack is worth as much as extreme attack), they're very cheap.

Also, assuming you use overloads and extreme potions regularly (even if you don't think you will at the time, you almost certainly will down the line), making overload ingredients for training is infinitely better than making tradable potions.

 

Otherwise, if you keep playing, you WILL come to a point where you realize that you need to make more overloads or special restores or super prayers or super antifires and have 99 herblore already. At that point, everything tradable that you made after you could make untradable potions becomes a 100% waste of money.

Also, extreme pots are 100% loss theoretically, but if you value only the seconds (e.g. super attack is worth as much as extreme attack), they're very cheap.

Actually, they have 2 values. They have a gp/xp ratio to make, however unlike other pots you don't factor in a resale value. So they are faster then tradeable pots to make, and in some cases are as cheap, but with the added benefit of getting the use of the potion "free"

 

EG, this is all estimates based on when I trained herb: X attack are 32 gp/xp, super energy are 30 gp/xp. X attacks are faster xp, and I get the potion afterwards, so I made them.

 

That is why I planned out 99 herblore so I ended with 850+ (4) super prayers, several hundred of all x pots, and 1k+ x str/attack, and 1250 (4) overloads, so I am set for quite a while.

Yea, making extr/untradable pots are the best thing to do.

 

At the moment im making 8.8k extr magic's because there the cheapest xp. Then i will make a bunch of overall, and later some super prayer potions.

Yes, it will cost alot of money. Yes, it could be done more efficient, but after you get extreme's you will never EVER use normal potions again.

Your better off using more efficient methods of getting XP, selling those pots, and THEN buying the pots you have.

Just lol at anybody blathering about extremes.

He only has 62 herblore...

 

To OP, what are you trying to do?

1) Make money?

2) Raise slayer xp?

3) Raise herblore level?

4) Be a total player?

 

If you answered yes to 1 then delete them fricken spreadsheets.

Holy bejeesus they will have you spending into oblivion because they think you'll be working 9 to 5 at bandos when your level 130.

You'll hear some nonsense about opportunity cost, ignore it, and keep your eyes on the prize because a gp saved is a gp earned.

 

If you answered yes to 2 then delete them fricken spreadsheets.

Make your own pots.

Its doesn't waste lots of time, its not like you'll be needing 10s of thousands of pots anytime soon.

Pick at herblore.

A level here, a level there.

Opening up levels will allow you a greater variety of pots to level on.

No need to slam 20,000 super restores to get at extremes.

Extremes aren't going to get you 99 slayer. Making money to make extremes isn't going to get you 99 slayer.

Doing slayer is going to get you 99 slayer.

 

If you answered yes to 3 then ask yourself the following question.

Would I rather spend way more of my time making money so I can buy the biggest fatest xp laden pot making scheme out there or would I prefer to spend more time mixing pots and harvesting xp at a more manageable xp/gp rate?

If you prefer the former option, then by all means open the spreadsheet.

If you prefere the later, then delete them fricken spreadsheets and stare at the GE instead.

You can find gold there.

Be warned herbs and pots go through starvation and crashes.

So don't be thinking that you won't be spending more than you project.

Taking your hard earned gp is about the only thing merchants do in runescape (they certainly don't play the game) and jagex gave them the GE system as a gift for their $5.

 

If you answered yes to 4 then delete them fricken spreadsheets.

Picking at skills, buy out of necessity not convenience, DIY, thats what a complete player is.

You will know the game in and out and their is nothing more rewarding.

If you just want to make money and buy skills like its a job then by all means they made spreadsheets for robotic gaming experience enjoy....

Just lol at anybody blathering about extremes.

He only has 62 herblore...

 

To OP, what are you trying to do?

1) Make money?

2) Raise slayer xp?

3) Raise herblore level?

4) Be a total player?

 

If you answered yes to 1 then delete them fricken spreadsheets.

Holy bejeesus they will have you spending into oblivion because they think you'll be working 9 to 5 at bandos when your level 130.

You'll hear some nonsense about opportunity cost, ignore it, and keep your eyes on the prize because a gp saved is a gp earned.

 

If you answered yes to 2 then delete them fricken spreadsheets.

Make your own pots.

Its doesn't waste lots of time, its not like you'll be needing 10s of thousands of pots anytime soon.

Pick at herblore.

A level here, a level there.

Opening up levels will allow you a greater variety of pots to level on.

No need to slam 20,000 super restores to get at extremes.

Extremes aren't going to get you 99 slayer. Making money to make extremes isn't going to get you 99 slayer.

Doing slayer is going to get you 99 slayer.

 

If you answered yes to 3 then ask yourself the following question.

Would I rather spend way more of my time making money so I can buy the biggest fatest xp laden pot making scheme out there or would I prefer to spend more time mixing pots and harvesting xp at a more manageable xp/gp rate?

If you prefer the former option, then by all means open the spreadsheet.

If you prefere the later, then delete them fricken spreadsheets and stare at the GE instead.

You can find gold there.

Be warned herbs and pots go through starvation and crashes.

So don't be thinking that you won't be spending more than you project.

Taking your hard earned gp is about the only thing merchants do in runescape (they certainly don't play the game) and jagex gave them the GE system as a gift for their $5.

 

If you answered yes to 4 then delete them fricken spreadsheets.

Picking at skills, buy out of necessity not convenience, DIY, thats what a complete player is.

You will know the game in and out and their is nothing more rewarding.

If you just want to make money and buy skills like its a job then by all means they made spreadsheets for robotic gaming experience enjoy....

 

omfg I can't believe you put in that much effort just to troll

 

It is inefficient to make your own stuff, that is generally always the case. It is easier and far cheaper to buy the pots yourself. Herblore serves no use unless you can raise it to a decent level. Wait til you get the cash you need for 85/92 herblore and then spend it all on the most efficient potion for you.

[hide]Just lol at anybody blathering about extremes.

He only has 62 herblore...

 

To OP, what are you trying to do?

1) Make money?

2) Raise slayer xp?

3) Raise herblore level?

4) Be a total player?

 

If you answered yes to 1 then delete them fricken spreadsheets.

Holy bejeesus they will have you spending into oblivion because they think you'll be working 9 to 5 at bandos when your level 130.

You'll hear some nonsense about opportunity cost, ignore it, and keep your eyes on the prize because a gp saved is a gp earned.

 

If you answered yes to 2 then delete them fricken spreadsheets.

Make your own pots.

Its doesn't waste lots of time, its not like you'll be needing 10s of thousands of pots anytime soon.

Pick at herblore.

A level here, a level there.

Opening up levels will allow you a greater variety of pots to level on.

No need to slam 20,000 super restores to get at extremes.

Extremes aren't going to get you 99 slayer. Making money to make extremes isn't going to get you 99 slayer.

Doing slayer is going to get you 99 slayer.

 

If you answered yes to 3 then ask yourself the following question.

Would I rather spend way more of my time making money so I can buy the biggest fatest xp laden pot making scheme out there or would I prefer to spend more time mixing pots and harvesting xp at a more manageable xp/gp rate?

If you prefer the former option, then by all means open the spreadsheet.

If you prefere the later, then delete them fricken spreadsheets and stare at the GE instead.

You can find gold there.

Be warned herbs and pots go through starvation and crashes.

So don't be thinking that you won't be spending more than you project.

Taking your hard earned gp is about the only thing merchants do in runescape (they certainly don't play the game) and jagex gave them the GE system as a gift for their $5.

 

If you answered yes to 4 then delete them fricken spreadsheets.

Picking at skills, buy out of necessity not convenience, DIY, thats what a complete player is.

You will know the game in and out and their is nothing more rewarding.

If you just want to make money and buy skills like its a job then by all means they made spreadsheets for robotic gaming experience enjoy....[/hide]

 

Pretty sure OP asked for the efficiency police, not "Golvellius the Effective". Go bother someone else.

yeah it was in the title, he only wants helps from efficiency clowns

 

edit: i think golvellius comes to tipit, searches all threads for the word "efficiency" and then spends 2-8 minutes trolling it.

You'll hear some nonsense about opportunity cost, ignore it, and keep your eyes on the prize because a gp saved is a gp earned.

 

........

 

I really don't get how people can't understand opportunity cost.

You'll hear some nonsense about opportunity cost, ignore it, and keep your eyes on the prize because a gp saved is a gp earned.

 

........

 

I really don't get how people can't understand opportunity cost.

just give up

Remember, golvellius is the same person that thought the Conquest minigame during the void knight questline was too unfair.

some day we will invent a machine to forcibly inject knowledge into people.

so yeah,

until then.

I am training Slayer as a means to max my combat stats.

 

I plan on using the money for herblore and prayer. I do have *most* of the gear a slayer would want (save for a fury and some other super pricey items).

 

And I wasn't trying to be offensive to you efficiency people - I do highly value your opinions. It's just a joke in the cc I use. If someone says something that is inefficient, we warn them that the efficiency police have just been called.

 

I am going to play the game how it is fun for me, but this is one area where I really do value the insight of others (as I do not want to screw myself over in the long run).

 

Would making pots for Extremes later be the most efficient? If so, then that is what I will be doing.

I am training Slayer as a means to max my combat stats.

 

I plan on using the money for herblore and prayer. I do have *most* of the gear a slayer would want (save for a fury and some other super pricey items).

 

And I wasn't trying to be offensive to you efficiency people - I do highly value your opinions. It's just a joke in the cc I use. If someone says something that is inefficient, we warn them that the efficiency police have just been called.

 

I am going to play the game how it is fun for me, but this is one area where I really do value the insight of others (as I do not want to screw myself over in the long run).

 

Would making pots for Extremes later be the most efficient? If so, then that is what I will be doing.

Making super attacks, which you can use for ext attacks later, is a generally good way to train but I wouldn't do the pots if they are high gp/exp to make.

Exactly as above. Making your own super pots may seem elegant but it's rarely a great move.

 

Also when herbloring for high levels, get a scroll of cleansing. I used only 44 torstol for my first 48 overloads, which is already 180k or so saved, not counting the hundreds (thousands?) of grenwall spikes etc. I saved before that. Assuming you are making a life's supply of overloads (1k of them or so) you will save over 4m on torstol and probably a few more million on other potions/seconds.

Also when herbloring ever, get a scroll of cleansing.

Fix'd. Herblore is expensive and the SoC helps, regardless of level. It takes such a small amount of time to get and lasts forever, there's absolutely no excuse to wait. Same deal with scroll of life if you ever farm.

As much as I hate dg...that post has convinced me to at least get Scroll of Cleansing :)

 

You guys are beyond helpful!