Now that i sold my Elysian.

[Noxx]

So i sold my Elysian yesterday plainly because i don't see why i should have a shield worth 500m if i could easily buy something a bit less "pro" and rather train some skills i've been wanting to train for a while.

So i have 350m odd. I have Full Bandos, Arma and a DFS. I have about 150m i can play around with if needed, the rest i'd like to invest in 90 Smithing, Crafting and Farming.

 

I do any form of MHing. My Gear isnt really at question here because i have pretty much the best there is for everything (well second best if you bring Torva and Pernix [or w/e] into the picture). My only problem is the shield slot.

What would be the best shield (asside from Ely, Div and Chaotics) to use at the following: Bandos, Saradomin, TDs, DKs, Zamorak and Armadyl?

 

I'm going to go ahead and assume for Soloing, DFS would be best at Bandos and Zamorak, maybe for Saradomin? Dragon defender would be best for TDs (using a rapier)? Or would a Spec/Arc be of more use? Taking into account i Solo Mage, Solo Hyb and Solo Trib.

Also Armadyl. Is Spec really a big step over DFS?

 

Thats all i can really think of now but if you think of anything else, feel free to add.

 

Thanks!

 

EDIT: Also, just to add a little something. Would an Onyx (i) be a worthy investment for TDs and DKs?

[xSxqPowerx]

I'd probably go with a spectral since you have a lot of spare cash and are looking for a shield.

It's nearly as good as ely in places where you take a lot of mage damage anyway (mainly armadyl, but it's pretty good at other places too.)

[SacredFlam3s]

didn't you make a thread ~2 weeks ago on how to get your ely? :P

 

anyway i would say spectral and maybe a dfs aswell if you can afford both, just for solo bandos if you are going to do a lot.

[Bladewing]

Bandos - spectral

Saradomin - i assume solo, dfs

TDs - dragon defender, possibly deflector

DKs - dfs if tribrid; arcane if solo mage

Zamorak - i'm not an expert regarding solo, but don't you pray mage and tank melee? if so dragonfire; if not, spectral

Armadyl - spectral

 

onyx (i) is not for tds, and at dks it's too huge a risk

[GlowinRedM]

For Zamorak you should be tanking mage damage since Kril uses melee much more often, does more damage with it, and in my experience is more accurate with it. The 400-450 hitting "yarrrr" attack which slams through prayer won't disable it so you should be able to heal unless you are really unlucky and get hit 2+ times in a row with it without healing. Anyways, I believe spectral would probably be best for Zammy

[Quyneax]

Bandos - spectral

Saradomin - i assume solo, dfs

TDs - dragon defender, possibly deflector

DKs - dfs if tribrid; arcane if solo mage

Zamorak - i'm not an expert regarding solo, but don't you pray mage and tank melee? if so dragonfire; if not, spectral

Armadyl - spectral

 

onyx (i) is not for tds, and at dks it's too huge a risk

This. For Zamorak, you pray melee as Glowin said.

 

If you have a divine, you'd use it at DKS, Kril (praying mage) and Zilyana (praying mage).

[Noxx]

Yes, i did post just a while ago about getting a Elysian, got it a few days after that. I don't dislike the shield, i just dislike the fact of having one whilst i could be doing so much moer with the money i have such as buying some skills (which i did a few hours ago).

 

Aslo, i guess it is about time i get an Arcane and Spectral then.

 

As for Zamorak. With high enough melee defence it would be better to pray Mage as he doesnt to that slam attack of his, which more often than not puts you in a spot of bother.

[Levon_]

spectral for bandos arma and zammy

dfs for sara and dks

defender for tds

[sumondskull6]

DKs - dfs if tribrid; arcane if solo mage

 

onyx (i) is not for tds, and at dks it's too huge a risk

 

I hate to hijack, Noxx, but I'm curious!

 

Why an arcane for solo maging? Is the extra hit splat every 500 casts really worth 45m?

I assume if praying with veracs, a spectral would be more useful?

 

Also, if TDs isn't where you would use an onyx (Why not?), then where would you? (D stone, too)?

[Quyneax]

It's for crashing actually - if you can be sure you never miss, you won't be crashed as much. With unicorn/soul split you have plenty of healing anyway.

 

Why would you use spectral? You pray mage :unsure:.

 

Dfs has 30 less magic attack than arcane, and 3 less prayer.

 

Onyx is good, but not worth the ~10m for +1 in all bonusus.

[SirIzenhime]

 

As for Zamorak. With high enough melee defence it would be better to pray Mage as he doesnt to that slam attack of his, which more often than not puts you in a spot of bother.

 

Don't sit at 600 lp then and keep your prayer low.

You should be praying melee at zammy.

I'd rather get hit a 400 every 10 hits then a 300 every other hit.

[green9090]

Spectral > DFS for Bandos? This is news to me. 20 mage def vs. 20 ranged def and 7 str... Closer than I expected. I guess it would depend on what your other equipment is. With a fury and Karil's top I'd think the mage defense would step into overkill territory, but with glory and dhide top I can see using the spectral. I will say that the last time I tried spectral at Bandos it seemed pretty bad, but it's possible I had a bad run.

[Quyneax]

I think it might be spectral + bcp > dfs + karil's top.

[green9090]

 

As for Zamorak. With high enough melee defence it would be better to pray Mage as he doesnt to that slam attack of his, which more often than not puts you in a spot of bother.

 

Don't sit at 600 lp then and keep your prayer low.

You should be praying melee at zammy.

I'd rather get hit a 400 every 10 hits then a 300 every other hit.

You need to try strategies before you knock them. His melee attack is extremely inaccurate. With a divine and slayer helm (greater demon task), I can literally live off soul split flashing on many kills, and essentially never eat with a unicorn out unless he gets spectacularly lucky. When praying melee, not only are his normal magic attacks fairly accurate, but his prayer break attack will NEVER MISS and also takes a big chunk out of your prayer alongside hitting 600+. When he does it to you back to back (and he will eventually, it's no use pretending that can't happen), he has a damn good chance of KOing your prayer while you spam eat, and that's not good. His KO potential and overall damage output is quite simply lower with protect magic, end of story.

 

Edit @ above: Aaaaah. Interesting, hadn't thought of that.

[Noxx]

 

As for Zamorak. With high enough melee defence it would be better to pray Mage as he doesnt to that slam attack of his, which more often than not puts you in a spot of bother.

 

Don't sit at 600 lp then and keep your prayer low.

You should be praying melee at zammy.

I'd rather get hit a 400 every 10 hits then a 300 every other hit.

You actually get hit much less and you're hitting more often and higher. Kills are faster, healing is less. All in all this is how Zammy should be tanked.

[BeNiceOk]

It's for crashing actually - if you can be sure you never miss, you won't be crashed as much. With unicorn/soul split you have plenty of healing anyway.

 

Why would you use spectral? You pray mage :unsure:.

 

It depends which strategy you are using. I own both a DFS and Spectral, and have used both on many occasions. I have found certain situations I prefer the DFS and some I prefer the Spectral.

 

On a solo-2.5-hybrid DFS is one of the best shields you can use (trumped only by ESS or CKS). You pray mage around 98% of the time, so magic defense is negligible. Prayer bonus is nice, but melee and range defense are more important.

 

In a group you will be killing prime much quicker, and have more time that you will not be praying magic. The extra magic defense from the spectral really helps keep the spins magic damage down, and since supreme dies faster range defense is less of an issue. While reducing overall damage is not a "critical" issue if you have a Unicorn/Yak, there is no need to use a DFS over +3 prayer when you don't need the extra defense. BSS works just as well to be honest; Spectral is just an added bonus.

 

If you plan to solo mage rex only, Spectral might be the better option as long as Prime stays off. It also is more of a comfort incase Prime switched to you and you were a second late flipping on your prayer. +30 magic defense could be the difference between 0 and 600.

 

@ doing Zammy:

I would recommend a group for doing Zammy. While you *can* solo him, there is very little reason to as his drops are less than par with other bosses. A duo or trio using SOL specs to tank and praying magic are very effective against him. Using this method you take almost no damage and can usually survive solely on a unicorn and some food for emergencies. Zammy's max while under SOL spec is only 250. With his attacks at speed 4, Unicorn, and +300 (using DFS) melee defense, he hardly does any damage compared to tanking him with melee prayer and hides.