Legionwizard Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 I have trouble finding more info on soul splitting, and my questions about ss flicking concern some specific cases: 1) At TD's, I use ss mainly while melee'ing (cause I get through the range phase rather rapidly with a steel titan). However I can only ss when my first melee hit doesn't hit high at once. So now the question here is: If I'm really fast can I ss on the first hit? I use a chaotic rapier. How would I do it right? Should I right click - attack and quickly activate ss or the other way around? The first case might make me ss flick too late, while the latter risks me getting hit by the tormented demon, hence ruining the purpose of ss flicking. 2) At DK's I'd like to flick ss on Supreme (or maybe even Rex), while Prime is alive and maging me. When should I activate ss? Is it right after Prime launches his attack or when his attack is about to hit me (assume I'm an end away from Prime)? 3) When ranging frost dragons (I mostly melee them though), when do I flick ss? It's supposed to be as soon as the firing animation of the c'bow sets in right? Thanks in advance. Achieved quest (07/08/2009), woodcutting (28/06/2010), attack (21/07/2010), strength + constitution (07/08/2010), defence (26/09/2010), summoning (13/01/2011), herblore (03/03/2011), cook (31/08/2012), firemaking (01/09/2012), magic (08/09/2012), prayer (16/09/2012) and ranged (29/10/2012) capes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 You don't flick ss when ranging at frost dragons - you should be using eagle eye if not rigour. Tds, I think you'd need to activate ss first. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koaala Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 At td's, you are supposed to ss flick when your first melee hit doesn't change prayer, so keep doing that.At dk's, prime is just too dangerous to even think about flicking- it can go horribly wrong.At frosts, you aren't taking any damage, and aren't even using curses, so i can't see any way you could use/need ss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Th e Doctor Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Pretty sure all the pros soul split flick at DKs, seen multiple vids of it being done that way. Armadyl Drops : 4 Hilts; 3 Chestplates; 2 Chainskirts; 1 Helmet; 1 Buckler; 2 Shard 1; 2 Shard 2; 1 Shard 3Nex : 1 Zaryte BowKalphite King : 1 Drygore Rapier ; 1 Drygore Longsword : 1 Drygore Offhand Rapier : 1 Drygore Offhand Longsword Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBK Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 1. It's hard to flick ss with rapier it would be a lot easier to time with cls or maul, but I'd say only try to ss if your first hit isn't 310+. I use a uni myself so I don't have experience ss'ing there 2. As long as you're praying when he launches his attack you can flick to ss and be safe, the hit is calculated at the start not when you see it hit you. 3. Ranging frost drags you take no damage anyway antifired and praying mage, I personally bring excalibur incase I do get hit by melee but rarely use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legionwizard Posted February 20, 2011 Author Share Posted February 20, 2011 1. It's hard to flick ss with rapier it would be a lot easier to time with cls or maul, but I'd say only try to ss if your first hit isn't 310+. I use a uni myself so I don't have experience ss'ing there 2. As long as you're praying when he launches his attack you can flick to ss and be safe, the hit is calculated at the start not when you see it hit you. 3. Ranging frost drags you take no damage anyway antifired and praying mage, I personally bring excalibur incase I do get hit by melee but rarely use it.Thanks, this is what I've been looking for. About the frosties, guess I took a bad example, was actually meant for healing in ranging situations in general, but combining point 2 and activating ss at start of animation I know the answer to that one. Achieved quest (07/08/2009), woodcutting (28/06/2010), attack (21/07/2010), strength + constitution (07/08/2010), defence (26/09/2010), summoning (13/01/2011), herblore (03/03/2011), cook (31/08/2012), firemaking (01/09/2012), magic (08/09/2012), prayer (16/09/2012) and ranged (29/10/2012) capes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wkw Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 For any type of prayer clicking, you need to have the prayer active 1 tick before the animation happens. So, if you cast a spell and flick SS on while it is in the air, it won't work. SS on before you "hit". Not "hit" as in when you see the damage, but it has to be on before you get the exp for that hit. That is when the hit is considered done. It applies with all type of flashing. For protection flashing, it needs to be done before your enemy starts their hit Runescape player since 2005 Ego Sum Deus Quo Malum Caligo et Barathum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koaala Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Pretty sure all the pros soul split flick at DKs, seen multiple vids of it being done that way.Not many do it while there are multiple DK's on them, and particularly when one of them is prime. If you screw up, it's highly likely that you'll die, thus it's not reccomended to risk it like that. I haven't seen many ss flick jad, for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notasoupbowl Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Pretty sure all the pros soul split flick at DKs, seen multiple vids of it being done that way.Not many do it while there are multiple DK's on them, and particularly when one of them is prime. If you screw up, it's highly likely that you'll die, thus it's not reccomended to risk it like that. I haven't seen many ss flick jad, for example.prime hits 490 max, it's not likely that you'll get combo'd if you mess up on a hit, depending on when you safe, but if you aren't comfortable doing it, it's of course better to be safe than sorry. about jad - there's no real reason to ss flick him, especially since protection prays work a bit differently to his attacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirIzenhime Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 At dagannoth kings, the earliest you can have soul split active and still be protected from Prime's attack is exactly when he fires off his attack. Any earlier, and you get hit,Assuming you're using a whip/rapier on supreme, it's simple to SS on him, since all you have to do is attack right after prime does and you just flash back and forth from SS to MagicFor soul splitting on rex, you can flash on a 3-1 interval. You can soul split flash 3 times, but then you MUST keep magic protect on for the next hit, or prime will hit you. Finding the start of this intervall is the hard part. Keep in mind this is very risky, as prime can hit 500+ Fisher/Woodcut------Me-----Miner/crafter----Stabber----Leecher ^Golvellius must be so proud^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtaurian Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 At dagannoth kings, the earliest you can have soul split active and still be protected from Prime's attack is exactly when he fires off his attack. Any earlier, and you get hit,Assuming you're using a whip/rapier on supreme, it's simple to SS on him, since all you have to do is attack right after prime does and you just flash back and forth from SS to MagicFor soul splitting on rex, you can flash on a 3-1 interval. You can soul split flash 3 times, but then you MUST keep magic protect on for the next hit, or prime will hit you. Finding the start of this intervall is the hard part. Keep in mind this is very risky, as prime can hit 500+ This. Or you can be like me and not give a [bleep]. I soul split flash every hit on both Supreme and Rex and I get hit 400s sometimes, but that's life. But I recommend doing what SirIzenheimcrab said. ;) About TDs, it's way harder to ss flash with a rapier when using a steel titan. I wouldn't really recommend using a rapier with a titan just because the clicking would be way too intense. If you can manage it for a full hour, you're pretty badass (this is all assuming you don't get perfect prayer switches every time; obviously if you're better at your prayer switches, you need to soul split less, so rapier would still be viable). To put it bluntly, [bleep] off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirIzenhime Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 I guess I should add you can also soul split off prime the same was as rex if you're using a crossbow (if karils, soul split like when attacking supreme) (Izenhime*) Fisher/Woodcut------Me-----Miner/crafter----Stabber----Leecher ^Golvellius must be so proud^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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