WoW vs. RS (Don't Flame Me)

[Halloweeny]

This thread is about discussing Wow in comparison to RuneScape - not analyzing each class' weakness. Stop flaming each other and get back on topic.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you want to moan and groan about classes, go to the WoW Official Forums - there's always enough whining to go around there.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

hmm....

[FuBai]

At this point were getting way off topic!

 

 

 

But!

 

 

 

I was thinking about a Night Elf Hunter (Master range/Secondary Bestiary)

 

 

 

Sound good?

 

 

 

I've never even played!

 

 

 

LOl!

 

 

 

I've just about read every guide to read in the first 20 pages of google when you search for a guide!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

wow!

 

 

 

this is so exciting!

 

 

 

i get to lay out all my sentances!

 

 

 

and add exclmation marks at the end of all of them!

 

 

 

lol!

 

 

 

I can read too!

 

 

 

wow!

[oRsArroWo]

Lol are you an idiot?... No one stole ea others ideas..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

WoW>RS

[jwrm22]

 

you cant use auto and bots in wow, its against their rules.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

They use a program called 'The Warden' to detect bots and you are banned if u r caught using them

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

They do, however, provide the ability for players to write their own macros ingame.

 

 

 

my friend sad it was allowed :oops: srry wrong info rived

[0Jordo0]

yes i do want more 5 man dungeons with epics that are hard.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

worke the sam way eh? too bad it that the more honor there is in the system the HARDER it is to rank up. Since there is always near triple the honor out there on a pvp server it makes pvp ranking harder. No its not just as tough....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I didnt Say RS has a better commnuity actually i said that in my first post its dumb everyone is just like ur a newb, nooo.,..... hes a newb! ill agree witht hat

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

well then i take back some of my guild comments but 90 percent of guilds dont work to being together so u cant say that they do since most guilds do break up check serer forums ill say that they do.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

No i dont think RS is totally fun. Ill admit ZG is kinda fun cuz its so different but MC and BWL is either glitchy or boring. y they added trash mobs to the end of bwl is beyond me because the first few bosses of BWl are uber.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Your right they aren't as gear dependant that does not mean that gear should allow melee to be better then their counter classes. thunderfury is not a rorgue weapon... its MH and its FAST with a low top damage. Only fury warriors want that. Since blizzard said epic quests for classes was a mistake ill ignore that paladins usually cant get sulfuras because ppl get pissyif a warrior doesnt getit such is Wow. most servers have more then one unless they are a new server thank u..... it has more stam and u dont need might to clear the first part of mc the only hard part of mc is rag. I didn't say RS had better stuff sure RS is lacking alot too but they are a smaller company its not a bought game and you pay maximum of 5 dollars US a month to play.. WOW is alot more then that and blizzard is huge.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

60 frost resist is lsited as poor in ur tooltip lemme explain resists to u... ok resist score of 50 a lil less then 60 but it will prove my point. notice where it says chance to take full damage 54 percent? alright well for fire that ISNT a big deal in pvp because itll still do most of the damage. Frostbolt is a binary spell for some reason... I said that already which means anytime it reads partial resist it doenst do part damage it just RESISts completely so that means frostbolt has a 54 percent chance to HIT at all.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I didnt say it was everythign in wow i just said thats waht imbalanced and get real blizzard has been out of character with wow for the longest time any longtime blizzard fan will see that all blizzard focuses on alot in most games in pvp because they take pride in it ill give hem props i like their battle system i think i may play again when the expansion comes out. .... I didnt say there was anythign wrogn with that i agreed i said yes warriors have talent options. all i was pointing out was i said certain not all.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

resto for pvp? um u keep ur group alive since u are the best healer in the game if u spec resto. y? better HOTS quicker long heals with HOTS more effetive with plus healing gear . y preists greater heal is like 4 sec cast? um wtf? thats so dumb blizzard should make it 3 nat or 3.5 nat then priests would use it raiding as well and be the best healers. Plusall the plus healing on their equipment would be uesful since for flash heal its near useless.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

u can think its primary pve al u want but wahtever... sure i said RS isnt perfect i never said it was...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i was saying that rogue talents make little difference to their playstyle. Sorry i was tired and typing fast.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

well then I agree warlocks can spec however.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

alright then shamans are next after priests litle difference. its good they are looking at priests they need some help

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i did, i didnt say they cant spec shadow i just say they shouldnt be in shadow form for pvp in groups it doesnt help anyone.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

no guilds that work together dont even fret good pvp guilds roll every group they come against in the odd chance they meet another pvp guild the guild will not heal mages often if ever because its not a good investment.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

yes its against the rules so is drop trading it still happens. az isnt hard kazzak is alot harder. the dagons are much ahrder then that as well.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

are u kidding? when i played a hunter going up against a pally was more of reluctance i knew id win it would just take forever. how doesa hunter lose all they have to do is kite send in pet. if the pally attacks pet pull pet back for awhile heal him up some. u run at 30 percent speed the pally will never catch u.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

because hunter attacks USED TO BE ABLE TO BE DODGED. this was before the new hunter talents and itsbecause blizzard felt hutners needed some help now that hunter talents are better they decided to leave it in hmm wakward. and lets not think about this realistically how do bullets home in on targets? yes they should be able to be dodged by everyone. everyone else hs to worry about dodges not huntes though only misses. as a rogue sure u can burst damage. but by end game hunters huge health bar and armor absorbs it ive watched it happen any rogue ive talked to hasa hard time beating a good hunter because of how much they have to counter rogues. personally i was beating lvl 60 rogues in duels at lvl 45 on my hunter BEFORE the new talents thats when i said wow that is overpowered. Nitpicking I can nitpick al i want blizzard makes u buy the game and play monthly so i expect perfection or close enough that noone can pick it apart.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ppl should have freedom to spec but its not fair that SW:P is better then the warlock DOTS. preists have other spells too they dont need super uber dots.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes they are better healers. i already said that if they spec resto they are. even without resto is very comparible. they can do good cat dps and use travel form and have good dps in caster at once if u mean with the same spec. they can also spec to make caster alot better orcat alot better but its still good either way. its not the dps thats annoying as much as its how hard it is to kill them with breaking of snares, different forms, amazing healing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Im not even nitpicking shamans. Its true how are u in a hardcore raid guild ando not "nitpick" as u call it. they aren't game breaking nothing is really. but they are problems.....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

well they gave them a better death coil that was good. how about hmm a slow? one that doesnt require talents. and on top of that exhaustion sucks so u need MORE talents to make it even par with any other slow. no chain fear doesnt. if a rogue gets close u cant cast fear. and warriors are able to break fear atleast twice in a fight making DR on fear take effect too much and the third will not be long enough to matter before they intercept. plus like i said ur dot will break it. Y am i even arguing this? all u said was this is wrong chain fear works on rogues and warriors u never even gave proof.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

4 isnt alot. since 2 are with talents. hamstring is better slowing its easier to use and its slower. um crippling poison is the best slow in the game and all u ahve to do is hit the guy......... or not let mages dual wield ur sarcasm is useless u didnt even prove anything. ignite is not that powerful unless u have tons of plus damage where u die in two hits anyways. FFS i never said i loved runescape its a nice break in between playing jedi acadmy ( very good game btw) and its fun to play while talking on msn.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ya the grammar in that is bad but not that bad mainly its just missing commas, whatever. Basically i was reinforcing evasion being useless in pvp because it is...... alright. if complexity from stormrage isnt hardcore raiding or fervor from eredar ( which broke up btw) i dont know what is. my bad.... group pvp is in need of some balancing but it is still playable i never said it wasnt sto pmaking it out like im saying everythign is bad im just saying that there are some problems and that u don't even see them.

 

 

 

well since my debate had proof andurs was just " ur wrong" i fail to see how mine says nothing but * shrug* wahtever u want to think. If it makes u feel like a big man to be smarter, than think it all u want but.... ur wrong.

[lincr3]

Im bored of this pointless discussion so Im just gonna respont to your really stupid statments.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Your right they aren't as gear dependant that does not mean that gear should allow melee to be better then their counter classes. thunderfury is not a rorgue weapon... its MH and its FAST with a low top damage. Only fury warriors want that. Since blizzard said epic quests for classes was a mistake ill ignore that paladins usually cant get sulfuras because ppl get pissyif a warrior doesnt getit such is Wow. most servers have more then one unless they are a new server thank u..... it has more stam and u dont need might to clear the first part of mc the only hard part of mc is rag. I didn't say RS had better stuff sure RS is lacking alot too but they are a smaller company its not a bought game and you pay maximum of 5 dollars US a month to play.. WOW is alot more then that and blizzard is huge.

 

 

 

lol...where did blizz say that epic quests were a mistake? Dont say stuff that you dont have infor to back it up.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

About the Thunderfury for rogues.

 

 

 

http://nurfed.com/(guild that HAS been around forever and HASNT fallen apart)

 

 

 

http://nurfed.com/uploads/wow/wow186.jpg

 

 

 

Look at that picture. The rogue with thunderfury topped the damage meter on nefarian and did over 10% of the total raid damage. Not good for a rogue eh? Dont say **** if you dont have info to back it up.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

60 frost resist is lsited as poor in ur tooltip lemme explain resists to u... ok resist score of 50 a lil less then 60 but it will prove my point. notice where it says chance to take full damage 54 percent? alright well for fire that ISNT a big deal in pvp because itll still do most of the damage. Frostbolt is a binary spell for some reason... I said that already which means anytime it reads partial resist it doenst do part damage it just RESISts completely so that means frostbolt has a 54 percent chance to HIT at all.

 

 

 

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/bas ... ances.html

 

 

 

Totally wrong lie again. Look there if you want the real info for what 50 resistance is. Its 54% to reduce damage at all for those frostbolts. 0% for frostbolts to be resisted completely.(dont lie dude)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

u can think its primary pve al u want but wahtever... sure i said RS isnt perfect i never said it was...

 

 

 

Its not even a discussion about it being primary pve or pvp...Guild Wars is a primary pvp game, WoW is a primary PvE game, Runescape is a waste of time as a game.

 

 

 

are u kidding? when i played a hunter going up against a pally was more of reluctance i knew id win it would just take forever. how doesa hunter lose all they have to do is kite send in pet. if the pally attacks pet pull pet back for awhile heal him up some. u run at 30 percent speed the pally will never catch u.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Please tell me how you expect to continuously kite a pally...ever heard of blessing of freedom and cleanse? See...you have to look at things from both sides not one and it makes sense.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nitpicking I can nitpick al i want blizzard makes u buy the game and play monthly so i expect perfection or close enough that noone can pick it apart.

 

 

 

you are nitpicking about stuff that isnt an issue anyway

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

its not fair that SW:P is better then the warlock DOTS

 

 

 

Oh its not fair...have to change it now

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

WORST ARGUMENT EVER

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

unless u have tons of plus damage

 

 

 

Well since you are all about pvp...shouldnt you have all the nice +dmg gear?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

well since my debate had proof andurs was just " ur wrong"

 

 

 

your only proof is your opinions...look at my links and you are completely wrong.

[0Jordo0]

rofl. this is just funny now u are a complete and utter moron do u even read what i type im gonna pick everything u said apart completely which ive done multiple times ur a [developmentally delayed] u know that right here we go again...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

where di blizz say epic quests were a mistake? hold on lemme find the friggen link u newb while im doing that yes rogues use thunderfury and they top damage charts not surprising considering its proc. but its not a rogue weapon rogues who get it just want to look cool and second that rogue woudlve topped damage charts before anyway.... third damage charts arent even good comparison because i guarntee there wasnt a fury warrior wielding it to compare with was there? no there wasn't therefore u have only see it in the hands of a rogue u moron. 10 percent? wow thats not surprising rogues always do most of the damage thats all the do. Ive seen both a rogue use thunderfury and a fury warrior and the fury warrior uses it better its much better suited end of story u cant even argue that. btw one guild that hasnt fallen apart proves nothing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ok still looking for the epic weapon thing and do i even have to argue this resistance. u read that info thats where i got it all. oh read it to urself here lemme quote urself "Its 54% to reduce damage at all for those frostbolts" one more time "Its 54% to reduce damage at all for those frostbolts" for god sakes read the part where i mentioned frsotbolt is still coded as BINARY SPELL which means IT DOES NOT HAVE PARTIAL RESISTS THEY DO NOT EXIST how many times to i hve to tell u U CANT PARTIALLY RESIST A FROSTBOLT IF U DO U WILL GET A FULL RESIST NOT REDUCED DAMAGE FULL RESIST.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

did i even mention guild wars no. runescape is fun to play around with or obviously u wouldnt be here...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

aspect of the cheetah aspect of the cheetah wait one more time aspect of the cheeth. tell me how im NOT going to kite a pally for ever he can cleanse all teh [bleep] he wants it wont matter he cant catch me u have 0 ranged attacks unless im under 20 percent health 0 wait count them again * counts on fingers* oh wait they dont exist you are too slow to cacth me. and U cant mount because ur in combat. which means i can kite all day long day and night u have no chance to catch me unless i stand there.....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and are u blizzard? do u account for everyone who made u god to say its not an issue?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ok u play a pally if they gave a shaman a better divine shield then u would u care? if u played a rogue and they gave warriors stealth but its better would u care? yes u would therefore warlocks deserver to be THE DEBUFFER CLASS as listed http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/

 

 

 

go down to see warlock see where it says debuffer. go to thottbot look at the last rank of shadow word pain for priests and the last rank for warlocks. now divide them... and oh look at that naturally the shadow word pain does 47.333 damage a tick where the warlock does 43.5 thats better is it not and thats a healing class. Plus they get devouring plague which heals them and they get mindflay a slow what do warlocks get. hmm immolate

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

yes but there isa problem with plus damage u sacrifice stats. mainly int which most ppl dont care except plus damage is flawed. lower cast times get less plus daamge making higher cast times the only viable spell to use where before u had a wide variety now ur gimping urself if u use anythign thats less then 3 second cast and even that is iffy. waht should be changed is that every class should have a base spell that other spells damages are measured against for mages it would be fireball if for example spell a with 0 plus damage does 50 percent of fireballs damage then with 100 plus damage spell a should still do 50 percent of fireballs damage as it stands now spell a becomes obsolete because it has a fast cast time while firebal becomes stronger and stronger.. The worst part is to keep up with the daamge race u have to get plus damage while sacrificing some stam lots of mana spirit ( which dosnet matter its useless) . While warriors get damage crit and all that no consequences.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

now back to looking through every freaking blizzard post still looking for the epic weapon post but lemme show u this while i keep searching its about frostbolt and BINARY spells [developmentally delayed].

 

 

 

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/threa ... post502901

 

 

 

ok its tserics second post his third paragraph down right after the quote with RESIST in it a bunch of times i suggest reading both the quote and the post by tseric which is old btw and frsotbolt has been binary since release still no fix. if u dont belive that read this post about binary spells.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/threa ... post496943

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

tserics third post down first point under stats/mechanics.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

great its not being found ( the post about class epic weapons ) but i know its there if worse comes to worse u can crucify me on that one point even though ur wrong and ive read it. ugh after an hour of searching im unable to find the post soo many friggen posts some stuff does get lost. But even though i found no proof from a forum lets go by physical proof. hunter epic quest came out. shortly after priest epic quest came out. hmm look at that no other classes have epic quests yet. i think thats all i have to say.

[gtacrackhead]

Ok!

 

 

 

Lately I've been getting sort of bored with RS and I was like hmmmm!

 

 

 

Then I thought well I've heard alot about World of Warcraft!

 

 

 

So I did what I did before I became a RS member!

 

 

 

I researched!

 

 

 

I found out all Icould about the game so that I could become engaged quickly and not waste money!

 

 

 

As I was researching I discovered that Runescae and World of Warcraft have almost exactly the same basis Ie: What you can make, do, proffesiones and some other things that were more obvious than you could ever imagine!

 

 

 

So, I was wondering?!

 

 

 

Did one copy the other!

 

 

 

If so whom duped whom?

 

 

 

Does anyone know who copied whom?!

 

 

 

Or am I just a conspiracy loving red-neck?!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And you didnt make a poll :roll:

[Denismage]

Lineage private servers ftw :roll:

[lincr3]

rofl. this is just funny now u are a complete and utter moron do u even read what i type im gonna pick everything u said apart completely which ive done multiple times ur a mentally challenged u know that right here we go again...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

where di blizz say epic quests were a mistake? hold on lemme find the friggen link u newb while im doing that yes rogues use thunderfury and they top damage charts not surprising considering its proc. but its not a rogue weapon rogues who get it just want to look cool and second that rogue woudlve topped damage charts before anyway.... third damage charts arent even good comparison because i guarntee there wasnt a fury warrior wielding it to compare with was there? no there wasn't therefore u have only see it in the hands of a rogue u moron. 10 percent? wow thats not surprising rogues always do most of the damage thats all the do. Ive seen both a rogue use thunderfury and a fury warrior and the fury warrior uses it better its much better suited end of story u cant even argue that. btw one guild that hasnt fallen apart proves nothing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

ok my proof showing a rogue doing massive damage doesnt hold up but your word of mouth saying warriors are is better? NO thanks

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ok still looking for the epic weapon thing and do i even have to argue this resistance. u read that info thats where i got it all. oh read it to urself here lemme quote urself "Its 54% to reduce damage at all for those frostbolts" one more time "Its 54% to reduce damage at all for those frostbolts" for god sakes read the part where i mentioned frsotbolt is still coded as BINARY SPELL which means IT DOES NOT HAVE PARTIAL RESISTS THEY DO NOT EXIST how many times to i hve to tell u U CANT PARTIALLY RESIST A FROSTBOLT IF U DO U WILL GET A FULL RESIST NOT REDUCED DAMAGE FULL RESIST.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

it says 0% to be totally resisted so how is that possible...show some proof proof about that with frostbolts instead of making it up.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

did i even mention guild wars no. runescape is fun to play around with or obviously u wouldnt be here...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

aspect of the cheetah aspect of the cheetah wait one more time aspect of the cheeth. tell me how im NOT going to kite a pally for ever he can cleanse all teh * he wants it wont matter he cant catch me u have 0 ranged attacks unless im under 20 percent health 0 wait count them again * counts on fingers* oh wait they dont exist you are too slow to cacth me. and U cant mount because ur in combat. which means i can kite all day long day and night u have no chance to catch me unless i stand there.....

 

 

 

As soon as they get hit with aspect on they are dazed...are you gonna tell me that they can get away from me hitting them at all with my ranged attacks or melee attacks? no pallies do have ranged attack btw.... let me name them. hammer of justice, holy shock, judgement of command, judgement of righteousness, dynamite(engineering), and repetance...dont make stuff up. you obviously no nothing about pallies or any other class

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and are u blizzard? do u account for everyone who made u god to say its not an issue?

 

 

 

you account for one person, any issue im supporting I am providing proof for. you have provided none.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ok u play a pally if they gave a shaman a better divine shield then u would u care? if u played a rogue and they gave warriors stealth but its better would u care? yes u would therefore warlocks deserver to be THE DEBUFFER CLASS as listed http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/

 

 

 

go down to see warlock see where it says debuffer. go to thottbot look at the last rank of shadow word pain for priests and the last rank for warlocks. now divide them... and oh look at that naturally the shadow word pain does 47.333 damage a tick where the warlock does 43.5 thats better is it not and thats a healing class. Plus they get devouring plague which heals them and they get mindflay a slow what do warlocks get. hmm immolate

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

cry more noob...roll a priest if you are so jealous

 

 

 

warlocks have a lot more other damage spells than priest so thats why priest have good DOTs. simple

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

yes but there isa problem with plus damage u sacrifice stats. mainly int which most ppl dont care except plus damage is flawed. lower cast times get less plus daamge making higher cast times the only viable spell to use where before u had a wide variety now ur gimping urself if u use anythign thats less then 3 second cast and even that is iffy. waht should be changed is that every class should have a base spell that other spells damages are measured against for mages it would be fireball if for example spell a with 0 plus damage does 50 percent of fireballs damage then with 100 plus damage spell a should still do 50 percent of fireballs damage as it stands now spell a becomes obsolete because it has a fast cast time while firebal becomes stronger and stronger.. The worst part is to keep up with the daamge race u have to get plus damage while sacrificing some stam lots of mana spirit ( which dosnet matter its useless) . While warriors get damage crit and all that no consequences.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

now back to looking through every freaking blizzard post still looking for the epic weapon post but lemme show u this while i keep searching its about frostbolt and BINARY spells mentally challenged.

 

 

 

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/threa ... post502901

 

 

 

ok its tserics second post his third paragraph down right after the quote with RESIST in it a bunch of times i suggest reading both the quote and the post by tseric which is old btw and frsotbolt has been binary since release still no fix. if u dont belive that read this post about binary spells.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

only comment about frostbolts on that page is by another user...nothing mentioned about frostbolts by a blizz poster.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-mage&t=496943&tmp=1#post496943

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

tserics third post down first point under stats/mechanics.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

great its not being found ( the post about class epic weapons ) but i know its there if worse comes to worse u can crucify me on that one point even though ur wrong and ive read it. ugh after an hour of searching im unable to find the post soo many friggen posts some stuff does get lost. But even though i found no proof from a forum lets go by physical proof. hunter epic quest came out. shortly after priest epic quest came out. hmm look at that no other classes have epic quests yet. i think thats all i have to say.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

the released the game originally at lvl 60...increasing it to lvl 70 this year.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

game isnt finished

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

so if some classes dont have stuff others do, it doesnt mean they never will

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

oh...one of your only references proved to be wrong....mmmkay thanks for trying

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

if it was such a major issue there would be many posts about it

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

oh guess i found what you mean about the resists...quote from blizz

 

 

 

The nature of binary spells is considered an issue and is being looked into.

 

 

 

why ***** about something they said they are working on and admitted it was a problem. This discussion is about aspects of the game not minor bugs

[0Jordo0]

the fact that u didnt delete ur whole thign accusing me of lying when u found out about binary spells makes ur argument even less convincing second. lemme reiterate this that blizzard post is old. very very old. they have done nothing about it we have known about binary spells for months. it hasnt been looked into at all thats just an exucse to get ppl to stop getting on their back minor bugs? it wasnt intended to be a bug it was a complete oversight to the stupidity of having binary spells even existing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

rogues always do massive damage if u dont believe me go on the gernal wow forums and ask who deserves and uses thunderfury better warriors or rogues and see how many ppl agree with me compared to u. plus i already said concrete evidence is imposbiel to find supporting near either because.... rogues always dps. no biggy. warriors are hardly ever dpsing in MC or anything they just tank tanking cuts their dps really low.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

they are only dazed for a couple of seconds first off second they can quickly switch aspects even if they do get dazed then wingclip for half a sec while u cleanse re put on cheetah and they are gone.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

holy shock is a talent on a long cooldown give me a break thats not viable like i siad the hunter will be gone way before u catch him after u holy shock thats nto really a ranged attack that pallys have because it involves talents so not all pallys have it. repetence 1 min cooldown also talent not very pally has it hunter will get away from u they have tons of slows and traps btw.... u cant stay on top of them they only need half a sec of u being slowed to reapply cheetah. hammer of justice wtf man? 10 yards thats only double melee do u think a hutner will be within 10 yards? its not even really ranged its so short and it doesnt even do damage. first off a hunter has 35-41 yards 90 percent of them have 41 yards do u think they will be close enough for u to use hammerof justice..... again judgements are 10 yards the hutner wont be close enough for that to be used.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

on top of this the hunter will come up on u not u on him 90 percent of the time because of track humanoids they can alwyas see u coming. which means there will be at least one freezing trap set down so if u get close enough thatll hit u forcing u to stay frozen or to bubble out but by that time u lose because hes too far away kiting u. dynamite is engineering.... its not a pally move.... and have fun getting a grenade to hit if the hunter is constantly moving away constantly. even if u do refer to where i said u will get slowed and he will reapply. even repetence and holyshock are too shot of range both are 20 yards u wont ever be within that range. um ur an idiot i know lots about pallies. and i know plenty about every other class as well and by the examplesuve tried to given i see u are right on top of the ball.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i never said i was jealous of a priest way to trivialize it lol. preists can heal. u dont need alot of damaging spells pain mind flay devouring plague and mindblast are more then enough. oh and holy fire for holy priests. oh wait and smite. ok warlocks dont really have substatially more damaging spells.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

none of my references was wrong.... lvl 70 is in expansion which will make hunter and priest epics suck anyways sine they are not scaling mc or bwl. which i find funny im gonna laugh when we see pickup groups easily clearing MC because 10 extra lvls will make it much easier. then all those hardcore ppl will complain until they finally clear the illidan instances. until then ill enjoy watching them squeem

[lincr3]

first off the rogue is a lot higher in damage than the rest of the rogues(explain this then)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

second wing clip does nothing to a pally(blessing of freedom prevents anything from even being cast on them)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

third holy shock is 30 seconds...not a long cooldown

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

fourth I can beat any hunter any day on my pally...you have never played one at 60 so how can you say they are so bad? Your statements are utterly [developmentally delayed]ed. Ive never heard someone so ignorant talking about a class they dont play.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

fifth there are 7+ new raid dungeons coming with the expansion so who cares about bwl/mc when weve already done them anyway? people without the expansion will be able to run them just fine

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

bye bye no reply...no point arguing with someone so ignorant...guess you are righ...rs must be better than wow because of these things(look at topic)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

also looks like you really really sucked at WoW and are upset at blizz for it lol..have fun peace out

[0Jordo0]

i never said thunderfury didnt increase the rogues daamge the proc is amazing but because of the high damage its alot harder to keep aggro off of him. Plus if he has thunderfury hes prolly pimped out anyway. I never said rogues CANT get thunderfury i just think a warrior would make better use of it personallly sword rogues are boring they have two moves sinister strike and eviscerate and they are boring moves at that dagger is much funner.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

wing clip does so hit a pally... blessing of freedom does not last forever.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

holy shock is 20 yards hutner shots are 41 u wont be close enough.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

u can beat any hunter any day? yes im sure u can because its a pve server. which means u only meet hunters in two situations. dueling outside if and bg. dueling creates such a small playing ground the hunter is dinked bg there are so many other ppl around its anot a true 1 on 1 on a pvp server hunters destroy pallys. ive never seen a huunter lose to a pally ever i never lost to a pally ever on my hunter it just cant happen there is too much space the pally cant get close enough to do anythign and the hunter is much faster. ur just as ignorant uve never played a hunter so claiming " this is dumb because uve never played a pally" is a useless comment.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

the reason ppl care is because one second they have uber gear some people have worked months upon months to get their end game gear and all of the sudden it will become obsolete thats y they are mad and wanted it to be scaled.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i never said rs is better then wow actually ti hink wow is much better i just cant play it right now becuase im bored of lvling and want a couple things fixed and expansion to come out before i play it again. on top of that i need to save money and runescape is cheaper sure its not alot of money saved but hey every little bit counts.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

actually no i never had a character on wow where my pvpsurvivability was less then 85 percent thank u and most of my characters were on pvp servers. when i actually played my 60 mage there was like 1 maybe 2 mages that could say they were btter then me on the server. on my rogue i had posts made about me because i was soo annoying inbattlegrounds its not like i sucked the only reason i nitpickedand complained is because u started flaming me and i analyze everything upon everything.

[unlucky97]

my friend recently quit rs for WoW he was a good fried so i'm sad but he says it uses more inteligence then rs

[Tigra00]

runescape:

 

 

 

online only. (0,01 gb)

 

 

 

not verry dedial.

 

 

 

8mil active players.

 

 

 

member : 7,5 euro a month.

 

 

 

the game: free (just member)

 

 

 

a year: 60 euro

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

wow:

 

 

 

cd game (2 gb)

 

 

 

verry high detail

 

 

 

around 20mil players (i think even more)

 

 

 

everyone need to be member: 15 euro a month...

 

 

 

the game: 40 euro

 

 

 

a year + game: 220 euro

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

diferents:

 

 

 

wow is verry big game bigger than rs...

 

 

 

(you can use auto and bots in wow, they are allowed and free in the game)

 

 

 

about 160 euro diferent... just for rich dudes...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Wow, your numbers are way off.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

WoW has 4 million subscriber's as of last month.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Runescape has like 250,000 I think. And around 2 million player's, they claim.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You can't compare WoW and RuneScape. RuneScape gets slaughtered.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh and you can NOT use auto's and bot's in WoW. And no they do NOT come with the game. They have "macro's" which is a button you make yourself that you can click to, for example, assist someone in killing their target. So rather than clicking that person, then hitting "F" to assist...You just hit your "assist" macro and it locks on the enemy automatically. That is NOT autoing, sorry.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you use auto's, hack's, or anything of the sort, Blizzard bans you instanty. They banned I think 2,000 accounts last month for Speed hacks and stuff.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And yes, they will find out. They monitor your computer for them. No, it isn't illegal to monitor your computer for them, either...They told people they were doing it, and that's the only thing they monitor, so it's legal.

[Tigra00]

Oh, thought I'd post my opinion's.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm a level 60 warrior on Perenolde. I am the Main Tank for a guild that has downed Nefarian (last boss in Blackwing Lair) just the other day. I have my full Wrath set, Elementium Reinnforced Bulwark off Chromaggus, and my Thunderfury sword. I am, without a doubt, the best geared person on the server. In regaurd's to the "there needs to be 5 man instances with epics in them!" quote...Har har har. I've worked my [wagon] off with 39 other people, 5 days a week, around 2 hours for a raid...So 10 hours a week for raiding, to get my gear. Going into a 5 man and gearing yourself up to be just like me would piss me off. Not to mention any given 5 people in my guild could clear one of these instances in a matter of a couple hours and walk out with new epics.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Bad idea. Casual gamers CAN infact participate in raids. I have no idea why they think they cannot. Most of our players ARE casual. We only raid a maximum of 3 hours a night for God's sake...You can't dedicate that time to get your gear? Go to a different game, please!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We cleared Molten Core ENTIRELY (Lucifron to Ragnaros) in about 3 hours. Everyone who started the raid, ended it, and I'd say about 26 of them were casual gamer's who logged off soon after the raid, epics in their bag. I've heard of a guild doing all of MC in less than 2 hours before, but they were also the first guild to kill Nefarian, they're even better than we are. All their member's have their Tier 2 sets, it's rediculous. :P

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Stop crying, please. You're just mad because you can't get into a raiding guild because you're too busy whining! Stop whining and apply to one. If they need your class, they'll let you in.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My guild is looking for Warlock's and Priest's, by the way. :) Skill required, good gear isn't! (blue's of course, green's are a bit too low :P).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You guys are aware, btw, that there is now TWO 20-man instances? They are considered by some to be harder than the 40-man's...Why is that? Because if you're only going to need half the people to get epics, they're going to make it harder...A 5-man would be IMPOSSIBLE if epic's dropped in it.

[Tigra00]

I believe in WoW, unlike runescape, you have to choose a subset of professions to take up - So you can do say cooking and fishing, or mining and smithing, but not cooking, fishing, mining and smithing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Actually you can do all four of those at once. I do. :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mining and Smithing are primarys, Fishing and Cooking are secondary's. You can take all the secondary skills, but only two primary's. Trust me, you don't want more than two primary's, there's no damn bank space for two of them as it is. :P

[jwrm22]

 

runescape:

 

 

 

online only. (0,01 gb)

 

 

 

not verry dedial.

 

 

 

8mil active players.

 

 

 

member : 7,5 euro a month.

 

 

 

the game: free (just member)

 

 

 

a year: 60 euro

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

wow:

 

 

 

cd game (2 gb)

 

 

 

verry high detail

 

 

 

around 20mil players (i think even more)

 

 

 

everyone need to be member: 15 euro a month...

 

 

 

the game: 40 euro

 

 

 

a year + game: 220 euro

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

diferents:

 

 

 

wow is verry big game bigger than rs...

 

 

 

(you can use auto and bots in wow, they are allowed and free in the game)

 

 

 

about 160 euro diferent... just for rich dudes...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Wow, your numbers are way off.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

WoW has 4 million subscriber's as of last month.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Runescape has like 250,000 I think. And around 2 million player's, they claim.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You can't compare WoW and RuneScape. RuneScape gets slaughtered.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh and you can NOT use auto's and bot's in WoW. And no they do NOT come with the game. They have "macro's" which is a button you make yourself that you can click to, for example, assist someone in killing their target. So rather than clicking that person, then hitting "F" to assist...You just hit your "assist" macro and it locks on the enemy automatically. That is NOT autoing, sorry.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you use auto's, hack's, or anything of the sort, Blizzard bans you instanty. They banned I think 2,000 accounts last month for Speed hacks and stuff.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And yes, they will find out. They monitor your computer for them. No, it isn't illegal to monitor your computer for them, either...They told people they were doing it, and that's the only thing they monitor, so it's legal.

 

 

 

i didnt sad that all active runescape accounts where member...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

(and i already sad that i had the wrong info about macro etc.)

 

 

 

and i didnt know that wow only was 4mil... but they are all payed...

[Evangelion19]

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WoW wow

[lincr3]

 

 

runescape:

 

 

 

online only. (0,01 gb)

 

 

 

not verry dedial.

 

 

 

8mil active players.

 

 

 

member : 7,5 euro a month.

 

 

 

the game: free (just member)

 

 

 

a year: 60 euro

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

wow:

 

 

 

cd game (2 gb)

 

 

 

verry high detail

 

 

 

around 20mil players (i think even more)

 

 

 

everyone need to be member: 15 euro a month...

 

 

 

the game: 40 euro

 

 

 

a year + game: 220 euro

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

diferents:

 

 

 

wow is verry big game bigger than rs...

 

 

 

(you can use auto and bots in wow, they are allowed and free in the game)

 

 

 

about 160 euro diferent... just for rich dudes...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Wow, your numbers are way off.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

WoW has 4 million subscriber's as of last month.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Runescape has like 250,000 I think. And around 2 million player's, they claim.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You can't compare WoW and RuneScape. RuneScape gets slaughtered.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh and you can NOT use auto's and bot's in WoW. And no they do NOT come with the game. They have "macro's" which is a button you make yourself that you can click to, for example, assist someone in killing their target. So rather than clicking that person, then hitting "F" to assist...You just hit your "assist" macro and it locks on the enemy automatically. That is NOT autoing, sorry.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you use auto's, hack's, or anything of the sort, Blizzard bans you instanty. They banned I think 2,000 accounts last month for Speed hacks and stuff.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And yes, they will find out. They monitor your computer for them. No, it isn't illegal to monitor your computer for them, either...They told people they were doing it, and that's the only thing they monitor, so it's legal.

 

 

 

i didnt sad that all active runescape accounts where member...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

(and i already sad that i had the wrong info about macro etc.)

 

 

 

and i didnt know that wow only was 4mil... but they are all payed...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

WoW was actually over 5mil before christmas, all paying accounts.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

has to be near 5.5-6 because christmas brought many players

[user1991]

wow has been around a lot longer, although back then it wasnt internet based and was called jus warcraft p.s. wow is sooooooo much beta thn runescape

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you base it on graphics then yes. Rs2 is probably worse gameplay aswell (I say probably, dont flame me). But Rsc before 2003 was better. Because it was reasonably small between 2k1 and the release of rs2, since all noobs want is graphics. RSC had more of a community feel. Which is now gone on rs2, and im not sure about wow, ill ask my friend.

[0Jordo0]

I never said those 5 mans would be easy. To make those 5 mans fair you would ahve to make them much harder then MC for gear that is maybe almost on par. that way casuals cant just walk through it or ppl in ur raid cant just walk through it. it should take alot more then jsut being strong puzzles thinking random things stuff like that its very viable. Yes casuals can participate in raiding its just all the hardcore guys who horde dkp will never let them get items so they end up just wasting their time

[iamannoyed]

I dont know nothing about WoW but i think Liner or what ever his name is is kicking 0Jordo0 butt in debating and can we get back on topic?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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