WoW vs. RS (Don't Flame Me)

[Mr_Hyde1218]

Codeman15 nailed it. but only in the side, so it'll take a little bit longer for it to die.

[snow_boots]

Being that i've played WoW, FFXI, PSO, RS and several other "fantasy" games. I can say that, they all have their own uniqueness... Yes it is one large archetype, but that is to be expected from everything in life.

[s018592]

ok, i am aussie, so my prices are jacked up no matter what i buy.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

When i got WoW the game was $120 and the game card was $50 for two months, within 2 weeks i was sooo bored with wow that i came back to rs, and made my account a member again.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

the following day, i sold wow to my neighbour for 15 months rs subscription ($12 a month)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

WoW has awsome graphics, it has sooo many idea's that jagex could use (gryphons, auction house, more equipabable items, more 'slots' (like 2 rings, shoulder pads etc) and tonnes of other great stuff) but really, they lack the holding ability with WoW. You can only train 2 skills, so if you get bored with them, time to make a new account or unlearn everything you have worked for.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

RS has, what i found to be, a much nicer community and probably more fun, RS has a more independant environment, on wow i kept getting stuck between lvl 15-20 cause i couldnt kill anything that gave me decent xp.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

in my opinion, rs is better value and better gameplay, who cares if the graphics are lagging and the world isnt even half as big to explore, who needs a life sized planet to live on in game.

[snow_boots]

The one thing i would have taken from RSC and put in WoW, is the dueling with bets deal... It was SOOO fun to bet for hours at a time... I wish RSC wasent ruined or i would deff go members on it. Maybe one day jagex will find a way to stop all the autoers.

[Teh_Spy]

WoW > RS handsdown, and I will die defending it. And to whoever said the RS community is better then WoW...lol...just lol.

[Lifelessone]

 

Did one copy the other!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

No. The idea has been around since the paper and pencil days of D&D.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Exactly, D&D started it all, RPGs would be lost without these two major starters, D&D and Final Fantasy (Final Fantasy cause thats what's gotten alot of people hooked on RPG's)

[hohto]

WoW > RS handsdown, and I will die defending it. And to whoever said the RS community is better then WoW...lol...just lol.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Things that are better in RS:

 

 

 

* Can be run on a slower computer. For example before I bought some new hardware (1 week ago 8) ) my lazy comp couldn't run WoW, but RS worked fine. Yea I know, my graphic card was horrible, but still.

 

 

 

* Cheaper monthly pay

 

 

 

* No need to buy anything

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyways, I might buy buy WoW the next week :P

[mstrchief138]

ok i played RS for a while and im getting WOW soon.

 

 

 

im not a member and dont want to be a member

 

 

 

f2p worlds are filled with noobs

 

 

 

all the comunity does is scam you

 

 

 

the game's ok but the graphics poopz

 

 

 

i hate how you move around just clicking its evry annoying. like u cant sneak on pplz in wildy and you move too slow (running runs out too soon)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

when i get wow, i mite b a tauren warrior and/or undead rouge are these good??

[pheonix]

I play both WoW and RS last year for about 7 months I was so addicted to WoW all I did was wake up go to school come home play WoW into the late hours of the night fall alseep at the computer wake up repeat :( till I got bored and went back to doin exactly what I did but with RS :oops:

[snow_boots]

I play both WoW and RS last year for about 7 months I was so addicted to WoW all I did was wake up go to school come home play WoW into the late hours of the night fall alseep at the computer wake up repeat :( till I got bored and went back to doin exactly what I did but with RS :oops:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lol that almost happened to me with WoW, but my RL friends snapped me out of it.

[sanday79]

ok i played RS for a while and im getting WOW soon.

 

 

 

im not a member and dont want to be a member

 

 

 

f2p worlds are filled with noobs

 

 

 

all the comunity does is scam you

 

 

 

the game's ok but the graphics poopz

 

 

 

i hate how you move around just clicking its evry annoying. like u cant sneak on pplz in wildy and you move too slow (running runs out too soon)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

when i get wow, i mite b a tauren warrior and/or undead rouge are these good??

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Haha is it just me or did that post look like a poem to you guys too? Haiku or somethin...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyways, yeah, I show a bit of restraint when it comes to RS, especially now that winter break is over and I'm back to the same old... poop when it comes to schoolwork and all. I mean I guess I still play an hour or two a day, but I have so much hw nowadays I can't spend as much time on it or anything else I find enjoyable for quite some time... God I hate junior year so much

[shootiessse]

 

I play both WoW and RS last year for about 7 months I was so addicted to WoW all I did was wake up go to school come home play WoW into the late hours of the night fall alseep at the computer wake up repeat :( till I got bored and went back to doin exactly what I did but with RS :oops:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lol that almost happened to me with WoW, but my RL friends snapped me out of it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

HA!...heres the WoW flaw, addicted u say? I can say that i lost a friend cuz of WoW. He says that when he enters the game, he has no other choice to play at least 1h-1h30 or its useless. At the beggining, when he just started to play it, it was fine. But now he refuse to come party with me and some hot girls cuz he wants to play WoW. I played d2 ALOT. And when i say ALOT, its ALOT. Blizzard's games by my experience are by far the games who get addicted really badly ppl. My friend is actually ruining his youth cuz of that game :(

[jaklumen]

I've never played WoW (can't afford it) but I did play Rubies of Eventide for a bit-- which has some similar structure.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As it has been said numerous times, WoW and RS are completely different games, and both do well for their particular genres. I came to RS because I was playing free java games and was looking for anything I could find-- RS takes more time than the typical java game I was playing (it's kinda like comparing Windows games like Solitaire to general PC games) but it's been nice. The RS2 graphics are also pretty good for a browser-type game. Trust me, there's stuff out there with crappier graphics.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

With RS, I can play, cruise the forums, chat on IRC... all at the same time if I'm quick about it. I can level as many skills as I want, including ones that don't immediately affect combat training (farming comes to mind, and yes, I like it). I'm a cheapskate, so whenever I upgrade my lousy graphics card I might get Guild Wars, but I like RS just for the sheer fact that I can just do some mindless clicking for the most part and forget about life's troubles for maybe a little bit.

[madchild]

 

 

 

Yet still, I'm an RS'er for life. Stickin' to my British ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã5 a month, THANK YOU VERY MUCH! 8)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Its ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã3.20 a month not ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã5. Its $5 a month =)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also the Graphics in Runescape will get better.. with time.

[pati]

if you are p2p you can quit if you dont want to pay anymore and go to f2p

 

 

 

with wow if you dont want to pay then you cant go to some sort of free version

[willyhenriksen]

 

Did one copy the other!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

No. The idea has been around since the paper and pencil days of D&D.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

the paper and pen time of D and D hasnt ended yet *smiles*

[0Jordo0]

you can play wow for free after u quit p2p but only when they release test servers.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I played runescape for over a year before I got into wow i quit near rs2s release unfortunately im unable to get on my old chars which sucks so i started a new character same as my tip itname here.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

heres the thing after coming back from wow i can tell u one thing wow strives friggen strives for pvp balancing at all lvls they fail bad at it at the moment. FOr example low lvl rogues can near one hit certain classes post 60 warriors become gods with uber gear liek untouchable nearly. mages are so dinked but yet they do nothing about it. hunters are overpowered druids are insanely overpowered. what happened is they decided to fix classes one at a time. so as they fix one and make it overpowered the next one makes two overpowered classes. eventaully they willget it right i dont have members for rs now but i may get it. I had to quit wow cuz i got bored of lvling characters had 60 mage 45 mage 48 mage 34 mage 48 hunter and 29 rogue oh and a 19 twinked rogue. they arent really comparable. lvling is alot different in wow for one. classes control ur abilitys and races are mainly for looks though some racials are nice. as for the class suggestions. hutners are overplayed dont be a hunter and for god sakes dont be NE hunter if u do. IF u go hunter marks beast is iffy marks survival is better. or beast marks for talent point split ups. Undead rogues are fing sweet. wotf plus vanish and trinket lol warlocks just die preists just die u rape cloth so bad. tauren warrior also overplayed some but good choice if u get good gear.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

a lil off topic RS is not at all balanced for all lvls of pvp. My ranger is now like lvl 27 1atk 1 def 1 str 41 range 30 i think hits. yet i run into a mage in the wild the fight goes like so mage hits 11 i hit 5 mage hits 8 i go ffs and eat mage hits 10 i eat more i hit 5 5 mage hits 6 mage eats i hit 6 7 0 mage hits 11 10 9. notice anything? my shots are not substantially faster then his magic. and im using shortbow on rapid. yet he is outhitting me huge i spend most of my time eating not fighting. 11 heck ive seen 13 at that lvl is not fair at all not even in the slightest rangers and warriors cant even attempt consistent numbers at that lvl. plus mages can teleport and now with instant cast from staff makes it alot easier. sure they become a lil more fair late game or so i assume but thats a different mentality from WOW. for example in WOW. everyone would go to the forums and be like hey he hits 13 wtf do i get to do if he hits 13 i want better hitpoints or survivability or more options. where in RS it seems kind of accepted. plus im not used to talking with my enemys in WOW horde allys cant talk to eachother. i ran from that mage. all i said was wow mages are overpowered. did that mage argue me? no he just said fite me noob

 

 

 

fite me hmm thats alot different from wow. what im getting at is u cant really compare RS and wow totally different community different ideas on how game should be just totally different completely they are hardly any ways to draw similaritys.

[lincr3]

you can play wow for free after u quit p2p but only when they release test servers.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I played runescape for over a year before I got into wow i quit near rs2s release unfortunately im unable to get on my old chars which sucks so i started a new character same as my tip itname here.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

heres the thing after coming back from wow i can tell u one thing wow strives friggen strives for pvp balancing at all lvls they fail bad at it at the moment. FOr example low lvl rogues can near one hit certain classes post 60 warriors become gods with uber gear liek untouchable nearly. mages are so dinked but yet they do nothing about it. hunters are overpowered druids are insanely overpowered. what happened is they decided to fix classes one at a time. so as they fix one and make it overpowered the next one makes two overpowered classes. eventaully they willget it right i dont have members for rs now but i may get it. I had to quit wow cuz i got bored of lvling characters had 60 mage 45 mage 48 mage 34 mage 48 hunter and 29 rogue oh and a 19 twinked rogue. they arent really comparable. lvling is alot different in wow for one. classes control ur abilitys and races are mainly for looks though some racials are nice. as for the class suggestions. hutners are overplayed dont be a hunter and for god sakes dont be NE hunter if u do. IF u go hunter marks beast is iffy marks survival is better. or beast marks for talent point split ups. Undead rogues are fing sweet. wotf plus vanish and trinket lol warlocks just die preists just die u * cloth so bad. tauren warrior also overplayed some but good choice if u get good gear.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

a lil off topic RS is not at all balanced for all lvls of pvp. My ranger is now like lvl 27 1atk 1 def 1 str 41 range 30 i think hits. yet i run into a mage in the wild the fight goes like so mage hits 11 i hit 5 mage hits 8 i go * and eat mage hits 10 i eat more i hit 5 5 mage hits 6 mage eats i hit 6 7 0 mage hits 11 10 9. notice anything? my shots are not substantially faster then his magic. and im using shortbow on rapid. yet he is outhitting me huge i spend most of my time eating not fighting. 11 heck ive seen 13 at that lvl is not fair at all not even in the slightest rangers and warriors cant even attempt consistent numbers at that lvl. plus mages can teleport and now with instant cast from staff makes it alot easier. sure they become a lil more fair late game or so i assume but thats a different mentality from WOW. for example in WOW. everyone would go to the forums and be like hey he hits 13 * do i get to do if he hits 13 i want better hitpoints or survivability or more options. where in RS it seems kind of accepted. plus im not used to talking with my enemys in WOW horde allys cant talk to eachother. i ran from that mage. all i said was wow mages are overpowered. did that mage argue me? no he just said fite me noob

 

 

 

fite me hmm thats alot different from wow. what im getting at is u cant really compare RS and wow totally different community different ideas on how game should be just totally different completely they are hardly any ways to draw similaritys.

 

 

 

You just said that over half of the classes are overpowered and that you class is underpowered...what a classic.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You, my friend, must be terrible at wow if you really think it is that unbalanced. I have played every class at lvl 60(got a tight group of people and we play each others). It is just embarassing as a wow player to have it compared to RS. You guys havent even discussed end-game(best part of wow that probably none of you have seen). What can be better than getting 40 close friends and going on a raid to a dungeon for 5 hours+ at a time? The satisfaction of downing rag, or nefarion, or outdoor bosses for the first time is soooo great.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Any of you that say you played it for a few weeks and quit have no say in how WoW is. You have to experience being in an end-game guild and raiding.

[0Jordo0]

ugh i just typed a 5 page reply to ur pathetic atempt to make ur self sound smarter then me but then the forum asked me to login so ill shorten it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

END game is boring noone liek post 60 wow its lacking

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

pvp is not balanced you obviously have never done post 60 pvp much

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Guilds are never close friends dont even try and tell me that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

end games guilds break up because everyone in it is a loot [bleep] noone wants to clear mc again and again they only want loot. y do u say yes when u down rag u tell urself its an accomplishment no ur lying to urself its cuz u want better loot.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

epic loot is unbalanced for certain classes aka warrior.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

cetain classses shouldnt be forced into talent specs to have a chance to kill someone

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

have u ever played mages 60 in pvp? no u obviosuly haven't because post 60 mage pvp goes like this do do do do assist train u die. do do do resist resist resist. assist train you die end of story. noone heals u ur not worth it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

its not balanced right now it will be which is waht i was saying is they STRIVE for balance did u miss that part? but it wont be balanced until after the expansion i guarntee because as it stands now it isnt a rock paper scissors idea liek they claim and it isnt balanced group pvp like they claim. if you've actually down nef which i doubt then i know u dont pvp hardly at all since your too busy being elitist in ur end game guild. Outdoor raid bosses have crappy loot and noone wants to do them because u get ganked.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

there is a reason they are nerfing bestial warth it was overpowered. a pet soloing nearly any class at 60 isnt fair.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hopefully blizzard will clue in sometime and make hunters attacks dodgeable. since thats unfair after their new talent arrangement.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

warlocks should not have worse dots then priests preists should not be able to dps. any priest who rolls shadow should have their character erased shadow priests are just selfish useless wastes of space.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

druids have too many options. Their dps is a little too high sometimes. Shifting out of EVERYthing is not balanced.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Shamns dps is waaay toohigh for how many options they have.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Warlocks need some melee defense.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mages need some more survivabilty.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rogues need to have vanish break dots. every class has a dot at least let rogues only defensive move work. evasion doesnt count its useless tell me one class its good against i already know u cant name one because their isnt one.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ew end game ew who likes that. healers spam heal button on the tanks. tanks have an order of moves to hold aggro rogues either spam sisniter strike and evis or spam backstab and evis mages spam one spell hunters just stand there and use theodd arcane shot or something. boring.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I would rather pvp even if it is a bit unbalnced then raid ever. raiding is boring.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

thats all for now the rest isnt even worth my time because you have no idea what you are talking about

[lincr3]

ugh i just typed a 5 page reply to ur pathetic atempt to make ur self sound smarter then me but then the forum asked me to login so ill shorten it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

END game is boring noone liek post 60 wow its lacking

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

hmmm thats funny. go look on the warcraft forums and you will see that everyone that isnt an end game player is mad because their main updates deal with endgame(just added a 20 player dungeon, and a new 40 this week) I have NEVER heard anyone say before that endgame is lacking. What is lacking about it?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

pvp is not balanced you obviously have never done post 60 pvp much

 

 

 

lol...I have a 60 pally named brut on greymane(pve server) that had been ranked in the top 20 pvp until I changed servers. Logged about 45 days played on that char with 30 at lvl 60

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

also have a 60 rogue on a pvp server(azshara)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Guilds are never close friends dont even try and tell me that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

this is one of the most ignorant things i have ever heard...what makes you say this even?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

end games guilds break up because everyone in it is a loot * noone wants to clear mc again and again they only want loot. y do u say yes when u down rag u tell urself its an accomplishment no ur lying to urself its cuz u want better loot.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Its fun...and you get good loot...and most guilds dont break up. I would be willing to run mc any day of the week on my pally after being decked out in full lawbringer(epic mc set)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

epic loot is unbalanced for certain classes aka warrior.

 

 

 

You say this bull**** without a bit of info to back it up. What is unbalanced about warrior epic sets(might and wrath since you probably dont even know their names). Arcanist is a bit lacking for mages but what is wrong with might? You cant progress in mc much if you dont get your MT a good bit of the might set.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

cetain classses shouldnt be forced into talent specs to have a chance to kill someone

 

 

 

pally - pretty much free to do whatever they want

 

 

 

mage - just cant spec fire because how stupid would it be to use fire on fire-based mobs?

 

 

 

warrior - spots for all specs here to...whatever they want

 

 

 

druid - many go moonkin form because they can do great dps and their +spell crit % is nice...only have to go resto if there is a big lack of healers

 

 

 

hunter - whatever they want

 

 

 

rogue - again, whatever suits their fance

 

 

 

warlock - who cares what they spec really?

 

 

 

shaman - much like druids..only forced healing if there is a lack of healers

 

 

 

priest - only class that has one tree they should use...why would someone roll a priest if they dont want to heal? thats why they call it a priest genius.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ok...so there is one class that is always specced a certain way for end game...OMG ITS BROKE SYSTEM!!>>!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

have u ever played mages 60 in pvp? no u obviosuly haven't because post 60 mage pvp goes like this do do do do assist train u die. do do do resist resist resist. assist train you die end of story. noone heals u ur not worth it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

that made no sense whatsoever

 

 

 

I have played a lvl 60 mage that was ranked #5 for pvp on greymane(name was chilebomb). It kicked [wagon]. One time I was with him he killed a 60 warrior with lvl 1 frostbolts...serious.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you are in a guild just pvp with them and you will get healed...duh.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

its not balanced right now it will be which is waht i was saying is they STRIVE for balance did u miss that part? but it wont be balanced until after the expansion i guarntee because as it stands now it isnt a rock paper scissors idea liek they claim and it isnt balanced group pvp like they claim. if you've actually down nef which i doubt then i know u dont pvp hardly at all since your too busy being elitist in ur end game guild. Outdoor raid bosses have crappy loot and noone wants to do them because u get ganked.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

no, you are wrong. Go look at the greymane server forums and the greymane pvp rankings. All the people in the guild crimson(which is my former guild and working on nef right now) are at the top of the rankings. You are totally wrong.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And if you are worried about being ganked on outdoor bosses play on a pve server. Thats why one is called """PVP"""

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Once again...your argument holds no truth.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

there is a reason they are nerfing bestial warth it was overpowered. a pet soloing nearly any class at 60 isnt fair.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

yes it was overpowered...but with it how it was it diding mean that they could beat anyone or any class all the time.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hopefully blizzard will clue in sometime and make hunters attacks dodgeable. since thats unfair after their new talent arrangement.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh now I am getting you...you want yourself to be overpowered and everyone else to get nerfed...making more sense.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

warlocks should not have worse dots then priests preists should not be able to dps. any priest who rolls shadow should have their character erased shadow priests are just selfish useless wastes of space.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

warlocks are a lot better than shadow priests to have in raids...are you out of your mind?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

also, before you were saying classes shouldnt be restricted how they spec. now you are saying priests shouldnt be allowed to spec shadow? lol

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

druids have too many options. Their dps is a little too high sometimes. Shifting out of EVERYthing is not balanced.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lol...cry more noob. why do you think druids are the hybrid class? because they have options.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Shamns dps is waaay toohigh for how many options they have.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If this is true then why do most shammies spec resto for raids? Also I have never seen a shammy at the top of the damage meter. Are you just totally making stuff up?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Warlocks need some melee defense.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

in the game...its called chain feer you idiot

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mages need some more survivabilty.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and why do you say this? they have frost nova, many slowing spells, and ice block. those all improve their survivability.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

mages dont need to have survivability like pallies when they can 2 shot ignite people(yah i know you probably never could)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rogues need to have vanish break dots. every class has a dot at least let rogues only defensive move work. evasion doesnt count its useless tell me one class its good against i already know u cant name one because their isnt one.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

evasion is wonderful against other rogues, pallies, warriors, shamans, and hunter pets. do you even know what evasion is?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

why do you want every class to have all the same strengths?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ew end game ew who likes that. healers spam heal button on the tanks. tanks have an order of moves to hold aggro rogues either spam sisniter strike and evis or spam backstab and evis mages spam one spell hunters just stand there and use theodd arcane shot or something. boring.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

what do you do in runescape thats a lot more exciting? oh stumped you!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I would rather pvp even if it is a bit unbalnced then raid ever. raiding is boring.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You obviously lacked the skills to be invited into a hardcore raiding guils

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

thats all for now the rest isnt even worth my time because you have no idea what you are talking about

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have no idea? tell me where I am wrong please...this time it was quite fun when you tried

[The_Sith]

This thread is about discussing Wow in comparison to RuneScape - not analyzing each class' weakness. Stop flaming each other and get back on topic.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you want to moan and groan about classes, go to the WoW Official Forums - there's always enough whining to go around there.

[Stely]

Runescape came before WoW. Warcraft isn't anything like Runescape.

[0Jordo0]

being at 60 is endgame as well. therefore its casual ppl that are mad. Did i not say pre 60 is fun post 60 isnt? yes yes i did does being casual lvl 60 count as end game? yes yes it does. yay more raid dungeons ya know alot of raiders are like yay more dungeons too bad we dont have enough time for them. hardly any guild can beat nef and they put out harder ones. yup they are sure catering to the whole of their customer base.... Its lacking because ITS THE SAME THING over and over. Sure RS is teh same thing over and over. Ur right rs gets boring too im only playing right now because i need to save money and i got bored of WOW. plus my RL friend decided to play rs again. do i enjyo training in rs no i enjoy pvping because u get loot and u can lose it thats all.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

wow 60 pally on pve server ranked top 20 no wai! hold on leem get this straight. PVE, ranked top 20, hmm relevance? none first off pvp ranking is a a grind which is another thing i like about RS pvping its not really a grind. second? pve server ppl are not even close to being as good as pvp server ppl so thats nice that pally being ranked top 20 is nothing 60 rogue on pvp server impressive i notice he doesnt have any rank wahtever how am i not surprised.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Because u cant tell me ur in an end game guild comprised of 39 RL close friends thats y i can say that. sure u can have close frineds in game but they aren't the same so they really aren't close friends when was the last tiem u went out for dinner or a movie with them?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes cuz lawbringer is sooo good. Not second its not fun unless u have twisted sense of fun third every end game guild in every server that I or any of my family members or RL friends have ever been in has broke up. every end game guild breaks eventually they aren't stable.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

info eh. first off i didnt say set. second off sigh... here we go Ur right arcanist is lacking for mages. so is netherwind but wahtever. third like i said before i didnt say sets. id never wear hardly any of the arcanist unless it was given to me. any warrior who has access to other epics doesnt wear warth or might its a waste. first let me say something im talking pvp end game not pve i could care less the point of getting good loot is to own not to show it off and clear more dungeons. lets see here.

 

 

 

my cousin is a warrior and HE admits he is overpowered. he has played the same char since release and is at farm status with nef in his guild. he has full might. but hardly ever wears it his pvp set is god. its [developmentally delayed]edly good. in the mainhand he uses thunderfury show me a caster equivalent to that. off hand is chromatically tempered sword yet another huge dps upgrade with nice stats no caster equivalent. armor helm hes using helm of endless rage. ok stat total on that is what? 81? ya no caster equivalent that adds that much dps and crit and health. boots chromatic boots. again tons of stats tons of armor plus a percent to hit no caster equivalent. Ok im sick of this just log on stormrage server alliance side and message draken for his pvp gear now tell me where casters ca get gear that does that much for them. how about rogues even? no hunters? oh wait nobody ya ya ur right nobody can get eqiupment that does as much as warriors can. and yes u can progress without might its called dark iron it owns might for mc use it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

mages can spec fire for mc if they want but remember im referring to pvp.any smart mage goes frost and HOPES the shammy and pally dont put on frost resist aura or frost resist totem otherwise they are dinked. otehr spec viable? no arc fire ya if u want to be a 3 shot 3 min wonder. not viable.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

warriors have to specs fury or arms for pvp and realize i said CERTAIN classes not all

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

first off if ur saying druids go moonkin in end game guilds only [developmentally delayed]ed ones alot of end game guilds wont let druids come as moonkin they are primary healers. but yes druids can spec whatever for pvp and still own everyone.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

hunter- survive first isnt viable in pvp so no not anything they want.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

rogues dont even count their talents are so messed though most rogues go 21 8 22 or a silight deviation rogues talents hardly make differences though ill agree.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

yes lets be mean against the warlocks u dont even care what they spec. well ill tell u affliction destro is MOST viable destro affliction is meah at times demonology waaay to defensive and defensive against one class at one time

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

shamans talent trees are screwed they are soo mcuh different then others which is whyt htey are getting looked at next.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

preists usually holy but some do go discipline just a different play style. but i agree preists who dont want to heal are dumb

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

that lvl 60 wariror was [developmentally delayed]ed even 1 on 1 i dont believe it without a video unless he wasa farmer. second ranking means nothing pvp mages on some servers dont group with group and just honor farm. btw to kill a decent warrior which has 5k health pretty standard it would take like 200 lvl 1 frostbolts. hmm doubt that happend.

 

 

 

no ur guild says sorry mage our warriors or other classes need heals more ur just a mana drain just dps a bit and die come back. they dont heal u

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

pve servers can still be griefed on kazzak and second so its fair to all the pvp servers that outdoor bosses are insanely harder? third did i not say before pvp is a grind wow a bunch of epic looters on a pve server are on top of the pvp rankings i would heave never guessed!

 

 

 

actually ur arguement held no truth

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

bestial warth was 2 min cooldown thats enough that if ur losing u pop it u win against any class at practically anytime since 2 mins is so short and u could just kite which all hunters do until its ready again.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

did u listen to the classesi played? I played a hunter pre the new talents and i DIDNT like that my attacks coudlnt be dodged it wasnt fair i played one rogue but friends played them lots at 60 and since we knew eachother quite well they agreed and when i playd rogue its just like a slap in the face. since our dodge is useless vs any other class anyway so at least make it some waht useful aganst hunters who own rogues anyway. and i mainly play mages u cant use the u want to be overpwoered trick because ive plaeyd more then one class and i think EVERY CLASS needs help in certain ways and CERTAIN aspects of classes can be overpowering very overpowering at times

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ffs when did i say raids? i didnt say raids once! yes warlocks are better then shadow preists in raids because of curse of elements mainly. but shadow preists DOTS are stil stronger then warlocks not fair and mindblast is abetter burst damaging and they can heal. and they get a slow! and friggen good one. no preists can spec shadow but preists in shadow form in group pvp are stupid and shoudlnt be allowed way to not help ur team. leave the rogues to dps andheal ur group as a whole does more dps if the preists heals doesnt try and dps everythign in sight and get himself killed

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ur right druids are a hybrid class but when they are better at certian things than others its unfair. for example they are better healers then priests for one and nearly good rogue dps n cat plus they get travel and they get dps in caster yup...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

sigh.. not once did i mnention shammys in raids. their burst dps is insane of course they arent on top of damage charts because it isnt sustained an they have to heal thats y. am i making stuff up ok go look at the damage on earth shock there u go dps. windfury dps.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

chain fear rofl rofl rofl rofl omg are u dumb? chain fear in pvp? ok fear is on diminishing returns if u manage to get it off every class ca break it warriors and rogues alike with something including trinket. there u die warriors have deathwish and berserker rage to waste ur other to fears making the next one not even last rogues can be undead break it agian but doesnt matter ull never get a second one off anyways and even if u get a first itll break from ur first dot tick

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

many slowing spells? hmm frsotbolt coc and blastwave( with talents) blizzard ( with talents) wow that sure is alot... frsotbolt is binary gets resisted coc is on 10 sec coldown and DR blastwave 45 sec cooldown not long duration and blizzard um ya hardto quickly pull off 8 secs of standing there not mana efficient. frsot nova broken by trinkets and preists. ice block is talents usually just delays death that is all.u cant two shot ignite if u have ice block two shot ignite too bad ignite is dispellable secondud need a ton of plus damge third most ppl have alot of fire resist so ullbe lucky fourth fire equals no survivability ud go fireball if ur lucky to stand for 3 secs and die.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

um waht palent are u from evasion vs other rogues sure if they arent stun locking u anyways bam one just one blind and that evasion is wasted. two warriors? no its not useful against warriors because they just go overpower crit for well over half ur health u die. shamans dont melee ogues i already said that they flame shock drop earthbind. hunters pets ull never ddoge because dodge onylworks FACING the endmy which u will never be doing against a hunters pet . i dont want every class to have all the same strengths and yes i know what evasion is

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i already answered this first i can look away in rs and tlak on msnsecond i got bored of wow third the pvp presents more of a danger in rs then in wow wow u die u ran back.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

no i was in hardcore raiding guilds i just chose not to raid with them they didnt care because my friends and cousin raided all the time plus they all enjoyed me arouund i made guild chat fun

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

there i told u where u were wrng

[0Jordo0]

sry sith i didnt read all the posts i just read the next buy lincr3 and then replied :(

[lincr3]

being at 60 is endgame as well. therefore its casual ppl that are mad. Did i not say pre 60 is fun post 60 isnt? yes yes i did does being casual lvl 60 count as end game? yes yes it does. yay more raid dungeons ya know alot of raiders are like yay more dungeons too bad we dont have enough time for them. hardly any guild can beat nef and they put out harder ones. yup they are sure catering to the whole of their customer base.... Its lacking because ITS THE SAME THING over and over. Sure RS is teh same thing over and over. Ur right rs gets boring too im only playing right now because i need to save money and i got bored of WOW. plus my RL friend decided to play rs again. do i enjyo training in rs no i enjoy pvping because u get loot and u can lose it thats all.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If there is more after running ubrs 2000 times like casual players then how can that be considered end-game. They call it end game because its the END and no more content beyond it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What do you recommend them do to cater to casuals? Do you want them to have 5 man instances that can be farmed daily for epics? You said yourself that the content was easy so why dont you get a bunch of casuals and go do it bit by bit?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

RS pvp cannot be compared to WoW pvp. There arent ranks or ladders or anything to work your way up.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

wow 60 pally on pve server ranked top 20 no wai! hold on leem get this straight. PVE, ranked top 20, hmm relevance? none first off pvp ranking is a a grind which is another thing i like about RS pvping its not really a grind. second? pve server ppl are not even close to being as good as pvp server ppl so thats nice that pally being ranked top 20 is nothing 60 rogue on pvp server impressive i notice he doesnt have any rank wahtever how am i not surprised.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The pvp ranking system works the same on pve and pvp servers and it is just as tough to get ranks on either one. The only reason I dont have a rank on my rogue is that I just rolled that char in December so dont expect that for long.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Because u cant tell me ur in an end game guild comprised of 39 RL close friends thats y i can say that. sure u can have close frineds in game but they aren't the same so they really aren't close friends when was the last tiem u went out for dinner or a movie with them?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I sure was a lot closer to all them after a couple weeks than I was to people in my RS clan after a year. Community in RS is nonexistant and completely uninspiring. Although I do not know most of them in real life, I do know some and in my guild is a group of about 20 rl friends.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes cuz lawbringer is sooo good. Not second its not fun unless u have twisted sense of fun third every end game guild in every server that I or any of my family members or RL friends have ever been in has broke up. every end game guild breaks eventually they aren't stable.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ummm...lawbringer is good and there are not any higher sets than it in MC. End game guilds are stable if you work at making it that way. You say thats not fun but you think RS is fun? Look at slayer for RS. Months of grinding to get to 85 then you go sit in one room, and kill one type of monster for weeks on end. How is this any more unique of a challenge than going and clearing out a dungeons(mc, bwl, zg, aq, ony) full of unique bosses once a week?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

info eh. first off i didnt say set. second off sigh... here we go Ur right arcanist is lacking for mages. so is netherwind but wahtever. third like i said before i didnt say sets. id never wear hardly any of the arcanist unless it was given to me. any warrior who has access to other epics doesnt wear warth or might its a waste. first let me say something im talking pvp end game not pve i could care less the point of getting good loot is to own not to show it off and clear more dungeons. lets see here.

 

 

 

my cousin is a warrior and HE admits he is overpowered. he has played the same char since release and is at farm status with nef in his guild. he has full might. but hardly ever wears it his pvp set is god. its [developmentally delayed]edly good. in the mainhand he uses thunderfury show me a caster equivalent to that. off hand is chromatically tempered sword yet another huge dps upgrade with nice stats no caster equivalent. armor helm hes using helm of endless rage. ok stat total on that is what? 81? ya no caster equivalent that adds that much dps and crit and health. boots chromatic boots. again tons of stats tons of armor plus a percent to hit no caster equivalent. Ok im sick of this just log on stormrage server alliance side and message draken for his pvp gear now tell me where casters ca get gear that does that much for them. how about rogues even? no hunters? oh wait nobody ya ya ur right nobody can get eqiupment that does as much as warriors can. and yes u can progress without might its called dark iron it owns might for mc use it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It is a common known fact that casters arent gear as gear dependant for weapons as melee classes. You say where is rogue weapon? Well you have the thunderfury(more of a rogue weapon than warrior). Hunters have their quest for the rhok'delar. Priests have the benediction/anathema. Paladins have the sulfuras. Legendary weapons are really a non issue to complain about when most servers have non of them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As far as saying just get dark iron for mc, LOL. Do you even know what it is? It doesnt have any defense and is only used by most people for rag.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What does RS have that equals this stuff? They have a whip...oooohhhh....and no raiding. b-e-a-utiful.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

mages can spec fire for mc if they want but remember im referring to pvp.any smart mage goes frost and HOPES the shammy and pally dont put on frost resist aura or frost resist totem otherwise they are dinked. otehr spec viable? no arc fire ya if u want to be a 3 shot 3 min wonder. not viable.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

For one thing the frost resist aura adds 60 which still leaves the rseistance at poor. cry more. So they need to add another talent tree just so that mages can spec that way when they fight pallies? Its called balance...pallies so no dps so they have protections.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What does RS have in the means of talent trees? Oh nothing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

warriors have to specs fury or arms for pvp and realize i said CERTAIN classes not all

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You make all your accusations like pvp is what wow is all about. ITS NOT. They can use 2 out of their 3 trees and be effective in pvp so what is wrong with that?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

first off if ur saying druids go moonkin in end game guilds only mentally challenged ones alot of end game guilds wont let druids come as moonkin they are primary healers. but yes druids can spec whatever for pvp and still own everyone.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh...so just because your warrior friend can only choose 2 good specs for pvp means druids should be nerfed? That was totally wrong anyway...what is so good about resto for pvp?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

hunter- survive first isnt viable in pvp so no not anything they want.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

this is a primary pve game so quit with this bs...when was the last time blizz had a headline "New PVP content!!!!". oh one time when AB was released...primary pve game so cut out this bull that doesnt prove anything anyway.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Once again about RS...at least you can choose a class and not just get your ranged skill and call yourself a ranger lmao.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

rogues dont even count their talents are so messed though most rogues go 21 8 22 or a silight deviation rogues talents hardly make differeces though ill agree.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ummm..translate that ramble to english and i might be able to respond.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

yes lets be mean against the warlocks u dont even care what they spec. well ill tell u affliction destro is MOST viable destro affliction is meah at times demonology waaay to defensive and defensive against one class at one time

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I was saying that they can spec however they want for end game or for pve because that is how you are saying it should be...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

shamans talent trees are screwed they are soo mcuh different then others which is whyt htey are getting looked at next.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

priests are next

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

preists usually holy but some do go discipline just a different play style. but i agree preists who dont want to heal are dumb

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

but didnt you also say that people should be able to spec multiple ways? you are contradicting yourself.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

that lvl 60 wariror was mentally challenged even 1 on 1 i dont believe it without a video unless he wasa farmer. second ranking means nothing pvp mages on some servers dont group with group and just honor farm. btw to kill a decent warrior which has 5k health pretty standard it would take like 200 lvl 1 frostbolts. hmm doubt that happend.

 

 

 

no ur guild says sorry mage our warriors or other classes need heals more ur just a mana drain just dps a bit and die come back. they dont heal u

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

yes it is true...and he probably is slow(I beat him 4 times in a row on my pally with nothing but my weapon). and find a GUILD...not a bunch of noobs. You are relating from a position of a person never involved in a true guild that works together

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

pve servers can still be griefed on kazzak and second so its fair to all the pvp servers that outdoor bosses are insanely harder? third did i not say before pvp is a grind wow a bunch of epic looters on a pve server are on top of the pvp rankings i would heave never guessed!

 

 

 

actually ur arguement held no truth

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

well griefing is against the rules btw so you cant really argue that. also outdoor bosses arent insanely hard...most guilds can down them with 20-30 people.(I have seen 30 on az from a new guild)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

bestial warth was 2 min cooldown thats enough that if ur losing u pop it u win against any class at practically anytime since 2 mins is so short and u could just kite which all hunters do until its ready again.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Its part of the balance...in all your "issues" with the game you are only looking at it from one side and not from the other sides. I never came across a hunter on my pally that could beat me consistently let alone "dominate"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

did u listen to the classesi played? I played a hunter pre the new talents and i DIDNT like that my attacks coudlnt be dodged it wasnt fair i played one rogue but friends played them lots at 60 and since we knew eachother quite well they agreed and when i playd rogue its just like a slap in the face. since our dodge is useless vs any other class anyway so at least make it some waht useful aganst hunters who own rogues anyway. and i mainly play mages u cant use the u want to be overpwoered trick because ive plaeyd more then one class and i think EVERY CLASS needs help in certain ways and CERTAIN aspects of classes can be overpowering very overpowering at times

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

where are you getting that the attacks should be dodged? when was the last time you saw someone dodge a bullet? thats totally off the wall. So you are saying that hunter attacks should be dodged by everyone because rogues are underpowered agains them? You say this like every hunter always wins agains rogues which is completely false. rogues can do extremely high amounts of burst damage so they are susceptible to attack. quit nitpicking gah...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

* when did i say raids? i didnt say raids once! yes warlocks are better then shadow preists in raids because of curse of elements mainly. but shadow preists DOTS are stil stronger then warlocks not fair and mindblast is abetter burst damaging and they can heal. and they get a slow! and friggen good one. no preists can spec shadow but preists in shadow form in group pvp are stupid and shoudlnt be allowed way to not help ur team. leave the rogues to dps andheal ur group as a whole does more dps if the preists heals doesnt try and dps everythign in sight and get himself killed

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

warlocks have lots of other spells that priests dont...your nitpicking is totally INSANE. these are the type of things I hear people whining about on forums beacus they lost a duel they shouldnt have. once again here you are contradicting your belief that people should have a freedom how they spec.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ur right druids are a hybrid class but when they are better at certian things than others its unfair. for example they are better healers then priests for one and nearly good rogue dps n cat plus they get travel and they get dps in caster yup...

 

 

 

for one they cant do all these things at once...second they arent better healers than priests

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

sigh.. not once did i mnention shammys in raids. their burst dps is insane of course they arent on top of damage charts because it isnt sustained an they have to heal thats y. am i making stuff up ok go look at the damage on earth shock there u go dps. windfury dps.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

QUIT ****ING NITPICKING ON LITTLE THINGS>>>THEY ARENT EVEN PROBLEMS AND YOU MAKE THEM SOUND GAME-BREAKING

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

chain fear rofl rofl rofl rofl omg are u dumb? chain fear in pvp? ok fear is on diminishing returns if u manage to get it off every class ca break it warriors and rogues alike with something including trinket. there u die warriors have deathwish and berserker rage to waste ur other to fears making the next one not even last rogues can be undead break it agian but doesnt matter ull never get a second one off anyways and even if u get a first itll break from ur first dot tick

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

so what oh master do you want? should they get a 30 second divine shield? will that make you happy? how about 1 minute?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

btw...this is wrong...chain fear works on rogues and warriors

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

many slowing spells? hmm frsotbolt coc and blastwave( with talents) blizzard ( with talents) wow that sure is alot... frsotbolt is binary gets resisted coc is on 10 sec coldown and DR blastwave 45 sec cooldown not long duration and blizzard um ya hardto quickly pull off 8 secs of standing there not mana efficient. frsot nova broken by trinkets and preists. ice block is talents usually just delays death that is all.u cant two shot ignite if u have ice block two shot ignite too bad ignite is dispellable secondud need a ton of plus damge third most ppl have alot of fire resist so ullbe lucky fourth fire equals no survivability ud go fireball if ur lucky to stand for 3 secs and die.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

4 slowing spells isnt a lot? what other classes have more may I ask? ignite is dispellable but not by everyone...How about we let mages dual wield sulfuras and give them 500 base strength...there are you happy? Oh i know...they can give every race and class the same talents, the same base attributes, and then you have your beloved RUNESCAPE where everyone is the exact same so there is no chance of one tiny thing over powering one person in one type of situation on one continent only

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

um waht palent are u from evasion vs other rogues sure if they arent stun locking u anyways bam one just one blind and that evasion is wasted. two warriors? no its not useful against warriors because they just go overpower crit for well over half ur health u die. shamans dont melee ogues i already said that they flame shock drop earthbind. hunters pets ull never ddoge because dodge onylworks FACING the endmy which u will never be doing against a hunters pet . i dont want every class to have all the same strengths and yes i know what evasion is

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i already answered this first i can look away in rs and tlak on msnsecond i got bored of wow third the pvp presents more of a danger in rs then in wow wow u die u ran back.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

no i was in hardcore raiding guilds i just chose not to raid with them they didnt care because my friends and cousin raided all the time plus they all enjoyed me arouund i made guild chat fun

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

there i told u where u were wrng

 

 

 

 

 

 

it took forever to get through this because reading through your writing is like decoding a different language. You have explained many things to me that tell me that you were never in a good raiding guild. if you were you wouldnt have said most of the things that you had against raiding and group pvp. quit picking out little situations that someone is strong, and not even exploring the other side of it. your debate says nothing.