The multiple runes update pretty much killed most of the profit from RC, given that at any level you have a chance to make 2x the runes, not just at level 91.

I understand that they should be efficient, my point was that I cannot ever be 100% paying attention, so if I accidentally kill things in a non gd room or kill something in a dead end, I dont want to be crucified for it. Also if someone is willing to learn, they shouldnt have to wait til 70 dging to join a team, getting to 70 solo is like slow torture. There should be different groups and keyers for different levels, so there should be a keyer willing to do floors 20-25 and not just 30 and up.

I understand that they should be efficient, my point was that I cannot ever be 100% paying attention, so if I accidentally kill things in a non gd room or kill something in a dead end, I dont want to be crucified for it. Also if someone is willing to learn, they shouldnt have to wait til 70 dging to join a team, getting to 70 solo is like slow torture. There should be different groups and keyers for different levels, so there should be a keyer willing to do floors 20-25 and not just 30 and up.

 

Nothing is stopping you from keying those floors yourself. That is also a good way to get acclimated to higher level DG and to better understand the team dynamic. It will be more difficult for you in the long run if you just hop into random floors and expect everything to work out in your favor at a low level. IMO learning to key is essential for anybody, regardless of their role on a DG team.

So you are saying that there should be people to bend over backwards for you and do floors with people with little to no experience in dungeoneering itself just to get lower exp?

There is nothing stopping you from becoming a keyer and making those parties yourself.

I have never keyed, so how would I do something I have never done? I dont know all the puzzles yet

Do you expect to magically learn to key as other people key floors for you?

I dont think that was a full sentence. I need to practice DGing and see what the keyer does and get more familiar with the skill before I can instruct others as the keyer myself... am I wrong?

I would suggest you read some of the various tips and guides located on these forums first off, then giving it a try for yourself.

Read the DGS guidelines,

My friend Bassy wrote a nice guide aimed at medium leveled DGers located at this url http://forum.tip.it/topic/285628-dungeoneering-tips-and-tricks/ Some of the info is a bit dated, but most of it is good and should help you.

Just reading through the DGS thread will help you as well.

thanks Pfohlol, I will check it out

Reading guides won't help you as much as actual keying though.

 

Each dungeon is different, even if you read a guide, you still need to practice the tricks by yourself, in an actual dungeon. So just go out there, be it 117 or not, and key a couple dungeons. Don't set an unreasonable goal like under 1hr, and just try and do everything. You'll eventually get better.

thanks all is great, it is just intimidating when I have never done it and 4 people are relying on me.

, so if I accidentally kill things in a non gd room or kill something in a dead end, I dont want to be crucified for it.

 

You won't......

 

You won't get kicked for making simple mistakes, you will get told you are making them, and if they continue, without you showing signs of at least trying to improve, you get banned from the CC. They don't random say "Hey look, he's in a gd killing that shade!!!!!!, KICKCK@#@@@#@#@#"

no....

You should probably actually TRY doing dungeons there, instead of making assumptions, based on inexperience.

 

 

Also if someone is willing to learn, they shouldnt have to wait til 70 dging to join a team, getting to 70 solo is like slow torture. There should be different groups and keyers for different levels, so there should be a keyer willing to do floors 20-25 and not just 30 and up.

 

Why not be one of those? Try keying furnished yourself in the cc, and see if people join, I think you'd be surprised.

 

quit making assumptions, DGS is NOT as hard assed as you're making it sound.

how bout talking about moneymaking methods rather than dungeoneering efficiency?

 

You realize that the more accessible a money-making method is, the less profitable it becomes, right? If something is easy and everyone can do it, it will obviously pay less than something that takes special skills to do.

 

OP doesn't have anything to set him apart, so of course, his money making methods will be "dry." If he feels his methods are too slow, then he's got to change his situation.