GoldTatze Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Ok, quick question, but which spell do you recommend if I do barrows (not the most experienced Barrow-er). Either Slayer Dart or Wind Wave. Now, I have been using Wind Wave as it is a higher level spell and is cheaper (I don't want to use a spell that costs 500+ just because I don't feel necessary), but I was wondering is Slayer dart still more powerful even though it is 7 levels lower? They are about the same price so cost of those 2 doesn't matter. Help. :mellow: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barbwireboy3 Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Id say slayer dart, i always found it better than wind wave at barrows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldTatze Posted April 18, 2011 Author Share Posted April 18, 2011 Ok thanks. I also just found out that the runes are usually Mind/Death runes (was on my last 3 trips) that are recieved from the chest so it seems cheaper as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K4ylan Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 I'd also think about using a black sally. Pretty fast and cheap. ~~~The Harpy List~~~Harpy Facts~~~It's Super Effective~~~The Beginning~~~Harpy Therapy Center~~~Alg~~~Jedi Harpy~~~Rohirrim~~~Attenuation~~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barbwireboy3 Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 I'd also think about using a black sally. Pretty fast and cheap. Id agree with this too, it was very effective for me and ive not even got that good stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Your max hit with magic dart is 100 + your magic level, approximately. It used to be +1 max hit for every 10 full magic levels (so only 190, unless boosted over 100, max normally). But since the damage updates & lifepoints updates, I'm not sure anymore. So at your 89 magic you're looking at 180 max or 189 max, before boosts. Wind wave hits 170 max, so it'd be worse damage either way. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nastyforinvi Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Ok, quick question, but which spell do you recommend if I do barrows (not the most experienced Barrow-er). Either Slayer Dart or Wind Wave. Now, I have been using Wind Wave as it is a higher level spell and is cheaper (I don't want to use a spell that costs 500+ just because I don't feel necessary), but I was wondering is Slayer dart still more powerful even though it is 7 levels lower? They are about the same price so cost of those 2 doesn't matter. Help. :mellow:Black salamanders are the most effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer66 Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 I always Fire Surge at Barrows, I ve always come back with more runes than when I start . You must remember to take into account any additional item costs, such as P Pots / Food, slower kills = more supplies needed per Brother. The higher the spell the more Chests per run / per hour you can manage. That obviously increases the potential rewards IMO. Gix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpikeStr1ke Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 I always Fire Surge at Barrows, I ve always come back with more runes than when I start . You must remember to take into account any additional item costs, such as P Pots / Food, slower kills = more supplies needed per Brother. The higher the spell the more Chests per run / per hour you can manage. That obviously increases the potential rewards IMO. Gix i always did wonder if u could still profit using a spell like fire surge at barrows, im planning to do a few runs there myself and i was thinking about either Fire Surge, Ice Barrage, or Slayer Dartbut the only one i knew for sure that profited was slayer dart so if fire surge actually does profit i'll be using it from now on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Ice barrage is the best spell for barrows. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpikeStr1ke Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Ice barrage is the best spell for barrows. but can you still profit while using it even without getting a brother's item??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HexiledRazz Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Ice barrage is the best spell for barrows. but can you still profit while using it even without getting a brother's item??? If you use Barrage along side of side-stepping and black salamander, you should be good. Combining the two methods enables you to stay at barrows for a while, limiting how much supplies you need. Hexiled Razz. Player since March 8th, 2005. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpikeStr1ke Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Ice barrage is the best spell for barrows. but can you still profit while using it even without getting a brother's item??? If you use Barrage along side of side-stepping and black salamander, you should be good. Combining the two methods enables you to stay at barrows for a while, limiting how much supplies you need. I've never used the side stepping method, is it hard to get used to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nairage Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 As no one has bothered to answer, side stepping is very easy. I don't even want to call it a "technique", basically you get the melee brothers "stuck" on a corner.. I forget which NSEW directions work (it's been 4 years), but if you toy around for a few minutes you'll get used to it. Click on my stats for my no ppot barrows guide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hegelstad Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 Ice barraging all melee brothers with SoL and Arcane Stream Necklace is the most efficient, faster chests means more items to cover the price for a higher levelled spell. My lame drops:6 Effigys1 D Med - 1 D Dagger1 Verac's Helmet - 1 Guthan's Platebody Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oliboli1992 Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 As no one has bothered to answer, side stepping is very easy. I don't even want to call it a "technique", basically you get the melee brothers "stuck" on a corner.. I forget which NSEW directions work (it's been 4 years), but if you toy around for a few minutes you'll get used to it. This was fixed a few years ago.... side steeping is when you barrage the melee brother then take a step to one side so you are diagonal to them, then you use salamander's attack and they can't get you but you can hit them. This doesn't work for ahrims and karils for obvious reasons..... [spoiler=Sig] I like to think of the Dark Bow like a Rocket Propelled Grenade (RPG) - you get one shot and then you're screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stallone Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Heres some suggestions 1:Black Sally (ammo is very cheap and runes from chest will cover costs)2: Slayer dart: Great for the melee brothers, but you may find a whip or melee weapon does more damage on the ranger and mager (depending on your stats ofcourse) :thumbsup: Other method you could try: 1: Use melee with soulsplit and protect prayers, while maximising prayer bonuses as much as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nastyforinvi Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 1: Use melee with soulsplit and protect prayers, while maximising prayer bonuses as much as possible.Pray bonuses do next to nothing here since you lose around 10 pray every 5 seconds or so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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