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So social stigma is the only good reason it's illegal.

 

 

 

Society, I am disappoint.

Me too, I'm disappointed that we even need laws.

 

Not sure if serious.


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So social stigma is the only good reason it's illegal.

 

 

 

Society, I am disappoint.

Me too, I'm disappointed that we even need laws.

 

Not sure if serious.

Do you ever make a post without a meme in it?

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So social stigma is the only good reason it's illegal.

 

 

 

Society, I am disappoint.

Me too, I'm disappointed that we even need laws.

 

Not sure if serious.

Do you ever make a post without a meme in it?

 

Yes.


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Do you ever make a post without a meme in it?

 

technically any piece of infomation is a meme, so its impossible to make a post with no memes in it.

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I try to be as unbiased as possible.

 

Obesity does not "harm" others when weight is gained, but that does not rule out the question that it could harm society.

Most over weight & even underweight [people] would agree that, for the most part, getting obese will make you lazy. You'll probably sit around and enjoy some music while munching out.

If the general population were to gain too much weight, most of that population would become lazy or at least lazier than they were before gained weight.

This could in turn slow down the economy by decreasing productivity. That's the worst it would do. The positives outweigh the negatives.

If people would not be able to do their jobs properly while obese they wouldn't get physical complications before/during working, or they would and eventually become replaced by someone more responsible. I'm sure even if obesity were legal and not frowned upon most people would still not be over eating at work.

 

The moral aspect of legalizing over eating for personal use should not even be in question. As humans we should be allowed to take whatever food we like as long as it doesn't harm other people. Does over eating harm other people in any way direct enough to justify its illegality? No, therefore it should be legal for personal use. If legalized and properly taxed, billions of dollars of revenue would be made annually and (assuming our government spends the money accordingly) that money would benefit the people, whether it's put into health care, education or other things.

 

The question of legalizing over eating has absolutely nothing to do with cheeseburgers or soda. I agree with whoever said that just because obesity is more healthy than starving that does give it a legitimate reason to be legalized.

 

I advise the over weight people to have more of an open mind. As much as you like food and over eating, you can't simply think that 'everything' about it is good. There are negative effects, whether societal or not. You have to think beyond the physical effects of it and examine possible underlying problems it may cause. Upon analyzing these problems properly a decision can be made as to whether it should be legal or not.

 

Switched out stoner references for obesity references and all the things still apply. Changed things are in bold and the original is below. Tell me why obesity is a justified personal choice and narcotics shouldnt be?

 

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I try to be as unbiased as possible.

 

Marijuana does not "harm" others when smoked, but that does not rule out the question that it could harm society.

Most smokers & even non-smokers would agree that, for the most part, getting stoned will make you lazy. You'll probably sit around and enjoy some music while munching out.

If the general population were to smoke marijuana, most of that population would become lazy or at least lazier than they were before smoking weed.

This could in turn slow down the economy by decreasing productivity. That's the worst it would do. The positives outweigh the negatives.

If people would not be able to do their jobs properly while high they wouldn't get high before working, or they would and eventually become replaced by someone more responsible. I'm sure even if pot were legal and not frowned upon most people would still not be high at work.

 

The moral aspect of legalizing pot for personal use should not even be in question. As humans we should be allowed to take whatever drug we like as long as it doesn't harm other people. Does marijuana harm other people in any way direct enough to justify its illegality? No, therefore it should be legal for personal use. If legalized and properly taxed, billions of dollars of revenue would be made annually and (assuming our government spends the money accordingly) that money would benefit the people, whether it's put into health care, education or other things.

 

The question of legalizing marijuana has absolutely nothing to do with alcohol or tobacco. I agree with whoever said that just because marijuana is more healthy than alcohol and tobacco that does give it a legitimate reason to be legalized.

 

I advise the stoners to have more of an open mind. As much as you like weed and getting high, you can't simply think that 'everything' about it is good. There are negative effects, whether societal or not. You have to think beyond the physical effects of it and examine possible underlying problems it may cause. Upon analyzing these problems properly a decision can be made as to whether it should be legal or not.

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Switched out stoner references for obesity references and all the things still apply. Changed things are in bold and the original is below. Tell me why obesity is a justified personal choice and narcotics shouldnt be?

I wasn't aware that you needed narcotics to survive.


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Switched out stoner references for obesity references and all the things still apply. Changed things are in bold and the original is below. Tell me why obesity is a justified personal choice and narcotics shouldnt be?

I wasn't aware that you needed narcotics to survive.

 

I wasn't aware that you needed to be obese to survive.


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Switched out stoner references for obesity references and all the things still apply. Changed things are in bold and the original is below. Tell me why obesity is a justified personal choice and narcotics shouldnt be?

I wasn't aware that you needed narcotics to survive.

 

I wasn't aware that you needed to be obese to survive.

That's not the point I'm making, but even then you're wrong.

Read it and weep:

http://www.healthnewstrack.com/health-news-2071.html


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I wasn't aware that you needed to be obese to survive.

That's not the point I'm making, but even then you're wrong.

Read it and weep:

http://www.healthnewstrack.com/health-news-2071.html

 

if you actually read the article you linked to it said

 

"The benefits were only seen in the overweight category not in those people who are obese."

 

its also only 1 study, so the results have to be taken tentitively

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I wasn't aware that you needed to be obese to survive.

That's not the point I'm making, but even then you're wrong.

Read it and weep:

http://www.healthnewstrack.com/health-news-2071.html

 

if you actually read the article you linked to it said

 

"The benefits were only seen in the overweight category not in those people who are obese."

 

its also only 1 study, so the results have to be taken tentitively

Yeah I read that, but the difference between the two can be less than a pound.

 

That still isn't the point I'm making, so I really could care less if the semantics are off a bit.


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At the end of the day, tobacco and alcohol are legal because they've been integral parts of global society for centuries and, in the case of the latter, millennia. You can't really ban them, they're too intergrated.

 

Marijuana has not been, and I think the only reason it should be outlawed is because otherwise people will keep pushing the line back until real, dangerous drugs are legalised, e.g. heroin, LSD. Besides, legalising it hasn't done The Netherlands any favours.

Cannabis and Opiates have both been used for tens of thousands of years. Cannabis has even been used for medical purposes for thousands of years.


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Switched out stoner references for obesity references and all the things still apply. Changed things are in bold and the original is below. Tell me why obesity is a justified personal choice and narcotics shouldnt be?

I wasn't aware that you needed narcotics to survive.

 

I wasn't aware that you needed to be obese to survive.

That's not the point I'm making, but even then you're wrong.

Read it and weep:

http://www.healthnewstrack.com/health-news-2071.html

 

What was the point you were making then?


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What was the point you were making then?

 

You miffed the analogy.

Obesity is a condition. Food is a substance.

High is a condition. Narcotics is a substance.

 

Comparing Obesity directly to Narcotics doesn't fit the analogy Ring made.


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What was the point you were making then?

 

You miffed the analogy.

Obesity is a condition. Food is a substance.

High is a condition. Narcotics is a substance.

 

Comparing Obesity directly to Narcotics doesn't fit the analogy Ring made.

 

Let me put it to you this way. Obesity is harmful to society in the same ways narcotic use is. Obesity or over eating in general is a personal choice, beyond the necessary requirements of health of survival. Narcotic use in non medicinal use fits the same description.

 

Why is one a personal choice and the other something a government must regulate? Both are addictive, both will kill you, both can arguably negatively affect the society as a whole (work ethic, addiction, health costs, etc. as listed already).

 

Regulating narcotic use is like telling your average Joe the exact calorie intake they are allowed on a daily basis and if you understand this you understand why I personally I find "the war on drugs" to be a disgusting excuse to steal your personal freedoms.

 

 

 

Also the analogy applies. You arent against drugs your against "high" if your supporting the war on drugs. I think obesity the condition is just as bad as the condition as high therefor the government is hypocritical to regulate one and not the other.

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What was the point you were making then?

 

You miffed the analogy.

Obesity is a condition. Food is a substance.

High is a condition. Narcotics is a substance.

 

Comparing Obesity directly to Narcotics doesn't fit the analogy Ring made.

 

Let me put it to you this way. Obesity is harmful to society in the same ways narcotic use is. Obesity or over eating in general is a personal choice, beyond the necessary requirements of health of survival. Narcotic use in non medicinal use fits the same description.

 

Why is one a personal choice and the other something a government must regulate? Both are addictive, both will kill you, both can arguably negatively affect the society as a whole (work ethic, addiction, health costs, etc. as listed already).

 

Regulating narcotic use is like telling your average Joe the exact calorie intake they are allowed on a daily basis and if you understand this you understand why I personally I find "the war on drugs" to be a disgusting excuse to steal your personal freedoms.

 

 

 

Also the analogy applies. You arent against drugs your against "high" if your supporting the war on drugs. I think obesity the condition is just as bad as the condition as high therefor the government is hypocritical to regulate one and not the other.

This all seems very flimsy to me. Food and diet are not comparable to drugs in any way shape or form, and the idea of regulating narcotics in a calorie-esque way is hopelessly optimistic. Food isn't as addictive to many as you make it out to be - nor as dangerous - and drugs more dangerous and addictive than you'd like to believe.



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You're saying fast food isn't as addictive as weed? And how are they not comparable? They are personal choices which make the user feel good but have negative effects to the user and in some cases to society. Marijuana isn't physically addictive, whereas fast food is (well, it can be).


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Well, food isn't as addictive as a drug like tobacco or heroin that has a physical addiction involved, but I'd say food can be addicting (to some people) like a drug that's psychologically addictive like marijuana.

 

Although if it was at all feasible I'd make obesity illegal too lol.


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Any way you slice it, marijuana being illegal is not fair if alcohol and tobacco are. That sounds childish, but really. And before anyone says that it's not an argument, it is. Marijuana is proven to be less harmful to you and to people around you than tobacco or alcohol. It being illegal is hypocrisy.


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Let me put it to you this way. Obesity is harmful to society in the same ways narcotic use is. Obesity or over eating in general is a personal choice, beyond the necessary requirements of health of survival. Narcotic use in non medicinal use fits the same description.

Right, people choose to be fat in the same way people chose to be high. :rolleyes:


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Let me put it to you this way. Obesity is harmful to society in the same ways narcotic use is. Obesity or over eating in general is a personal choice, beyond the necessary requirements of health of survival. Narcotic use in non medicinal use fits the same description.

Right, people choose to be fat in the same way people chose to be high. :rolleyes:

 

Well of course it isn't a conscious or quick decision, but over time it is a personal choice that one makes, unless some disease is involved. Isn't it?


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Let me put it to you this way. Obesity is harmful to society in the same ways narcotic use is. Obesity or over eating in general is a personal choice, beyond the necessary requirements of health of survival. Narcotic use in non medicinal use fits the same description.

Right, people choose to be fat in the same way people chose to be high. :rolleyes:

 

Well of course it isn't a conscious or quick decision, but over time it is a personal choice that one makes, unless some disease is involved. Isn't it?

enough said.


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Let me put it to you this way. Obesity is harmful to society in the same ways narcotic use is. Obesity or over eating in general is a personal choice, beyond the necessary requirements of health of survival. Narcotic use in non medicinal use fits the same description.

Right, people choose to be fat in the same way people chose to be high. :rolleyes:

 

Well of course it isn't a conscious or quick decision, but over time it is a personal choice that one makes, unless some disease is involved. Isn't it?

enough said.

 

It's still a choice, and one that is entirely preventable.


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Any way you slice it, marijuana being illegal is not fair if alcohol and tobacco are. That sounds childish, but really. And before anyone says that it's not an argument, it is. Marijuana is proven to be less harmful to you and to people around you than tobacco or alcohol. It being illegal is hypocrisy.

 

 

This statement and the circles this thread is going in are exactly why the debate is annoying. Pro legalisation arguments like this are way too generalised and over simplified and ignore integral things which have been said many times, even in this thread. You are basically ignoring everything already said such as tobacco moving towards illegal status.

 

It isn't hypocrisy, it's called the modern world moving towards getting rid of substances which have any chance of causing negative effects. The modern world cannot suddenly ban things which are engrained in world society, create millions of jobs and incredible amounts of money. It can however keep something banned when it does none of those.


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