My suggestion is that instead of wielding a shield you could sacrifice it and wield a particular one-handed weapon with two hands and receive increase in damage with that particular weapon.

 

Example,

Wielding a Dragon battleaxe with two hands will then make you hit extra damage.

 

The increase of damage should only apply for weapons that will be smart to use with two hands. For example it would not apply for ranged thrown weapons, Chaotic rapier nor Abyssal whip. If you have a suggestion for how much the damage increase can be please suggest!

 

WHAT WEAPONS IT WOULD APPLY FOR?

Battleaxes

Longswords

Sounds good actually. It may seem a bit overpowered, but you are sacrificing quite a bit of Defence bonus (and a bit of Strength bonus) doing this in exchange for a bit of speed.

hmm. Would make darts even more insane. Rapier aswell, it would make the Cls= defender+rapier I think? someone do the maths. Im not awake enough

Isn't the D&D version of it that you get more strength from two hands?

 

Extra speed doesn't make much sense either way. Nor does two handed fighting with some one-handed weapons, like whips and rapiers.

 

Bonus damage would probably make weapons like longswords, battleaxes, and warhammers a lot more useful, especially in F2P where we don't have defenders to skew the balance.

hmm. Would make darts even more insane. Rapier aswell, it would make the Cls= defender+rapier I think? someone do the maths. Im not awake enough

It doesn't have to apply for Darts. And it can be debated.

 

Isn't the D&D version of it that you get more strength from two hands?

 

Extra speed doesn't make much sense either way. Nor does two handed fighting with some one-handed weapons, like whips and rapiers.

 

Bonus damage would probably make weapons like longswords, battleaxes, and warhammers a lot more useful, especially in F2P where we don't have defenders to skew the balance.

I thought of suggesting bonus damage but that would probably cause to much impact on other weapons. For example if you gave extra bonus damage to whip, Dragon battle axe and weapons like that it would be to overpowered.

 

Whip has better speed than Godsword and is "equal" to Godsword in killing Bandos boss. Imagine whip with bonus damage. (I killed 4 General Graardor with Whip + Godsword).

 

Extra speed makes great sense: you don't need defense or extra attack bonus at many monsters. It would be very neat for Slayer.

Ridiculously overpowered.

Ridiculously overpowered.

How so?

I thought of suggesting bonus damage but that would probably cause to much impact on other weapons. For example if you gave extra bonus damage to whip, Dragon battle axe and weapons like that it would be to overpowered.

 

Whip would has better speed than Godsword and is "equal" to Godsword in killing Bandos boss. Imagine whip with bonus damage. (I killed 4 General Graardor with Whip + Godsword).

 

Extra speed makes great sense: you don't need defense or extra attack bonus at many monsters. It would be very neat for Slayer.

The thing is, how would using two hands to attack make you attack any faster?

Weapons like thrown weapons, whips and rapiers, as mentioned before, aren't really meant to be used with two hands at all, while weapons like longswords and battleaxes are underpowered as it is and need whatever buff they can get. The idea is sacrificing speed for power, but as it is, it's sacrificing speed for not much power at all.

The thing is, how would using two hands to attack make you attack any faster?

Weapons like thrown weapons, whips and rapiers, as mentioned before, aren't really meant to be used with two hands at all, while weapons like longswords and battleaxes are underpowered as it is and need whatever buff they can get.

Then it will not apply for thrown weapons, whips and rapiers and similar weapons. Then it could be applied to longswords and battleaxes. I thought of same thing too myself. That using a Whip with one hand would give same outcome, but i thought "Maybe Jagex might ignore the logic". Because afterall not everything in the game is based on logic. Anyhow i will change the suggestion so that it applies to weapons like Dragon battleaxe and Longswords. And not whip, rapier or thrown weapons.

 

Sounds good?

Bit better.

Bit better.

What makes it only a bit better?

Bit better.

What makes it only a bit better?

It's a good suggestion, I'm just not thrilled with the state of combat in general, for completely unrelated reasons :-P

Once the game gets balanced a bit more it'll be nice.

Bit better.

What makes it only a bit better?

It's a good suggestion, I'm just not thrilled with the state of combat in general, for completely unrelated reasons :-P

Once the game gets balanced a bit more it'll be nice.

Fair enough :shades:

More Speed = Overall more damage therefore more xp yield. You can sacrifice us much str and def bonuses as you like. This will make powertraining easier and more effective. You know, by praying.

 

If you duel-wield and you can't use (any) prayers, I am more than happy to support it.

More Speed = Overall more damage therefore more xp yield. You can sacrifice us much str and def bonuses as you like. This will make powertraining easier and more effective. You know, by praying.

 

If you duel-wield and you can't use (any) prayers, I am more than happy to support it.

The suggestion has been changed to apply to only battleaxes and longswords.

Why? this is basically why we already have defenders, 2h swords and greataxes(mauls). Unnecessary and will never happen.

Double post. Delete please.

I don't really see the use of it.

 

Nobody ever uses a shield for defense really (except for a minute few that use Ely/Divine/etc and a handful of botters)

The game mechanics are kind of messed up that way - there's no real alternative to a chaotic / ddef for tasks or a cmaul.

replace speed with stre bonus then okay

 

speed = over powered

replace speed with stre bonus then okay

 

speed = over powered

I thought at first giving str damage/boost/bonus when wielding a one-handed weapon with two hands would overpower Whip, Chaotic rapier etc. But i have come to realize and have been told that some weapons (Whip and rapier for example) are suited for using with one hand.

 

And because wielding a one-hand weapon with two hands gives extra speed/or damage, it applies to Battleaxes and Longswords. So i will edit the suggestion once again :thumbsup:

This could work for some one-handed weapons, sure. Personally I'd rather see a balance of the basic weapons (bronze through dragon) to make the battleaxes, warhammers, 2hs, halberds etc. one speed faster (and also increase their dps, though perhaps not as much as the speed increase would show). That'd put the speeds at the same as their dungeoneering counterparts, which seems much fairer.

This could work for some one-handed weapons, sure. Personally I'd rather see a balance of the basic weapons (bronze through dragon) to make the battleaxes, warhammers, 2hs, halberds etc. one speed faster (and also increase their dps, though perhaps not as much as the speed increase would show). That'd put the speeds at the same as their dungeoneering counterparts, which seems much fairer.

I changed the suggestion so that it would apply to damage only. But i am open for a mix of speed + damage? Got any suggestion of numbers of the boost?