anScooter Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 So I have been assigned Tzhaar as my slayer task and I have opted for going through the Fight Caves. I have never done them before and I am unsure on how I should approach or what I should take. My stats aren't even close to optimal, but: 82 Attack80 Strength80 Defence78 Ranged83 HP70 Prayer Can get 71 and get Curses soon.70 Herblore so no extremes56 Dung so no Chaotics Should I melee or range them?What items should I bring?My budget is about 20-30M or so. I have a full slayer helmet and a fury as well. Thanks for the help in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 5/6 sara brews, 3 range potions & 17 super restores. 500-1000 broad bolts for the waves untill jad. 50-100 diamond (e) for jad himself. Downgrade the arma legs to veracs skirt if you can't afford them. Can also wait for a jad task and use fsh over veracs helm for more dmg boost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slaykan Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 Also don't bother with curses at 71, just use normal prays much better than deflects. Good Timber does not grow with ease, the stronger the wind, the stronger the trees. There is dignity in suffering, nobility in pain, but failure is a salted wound, that burns over and over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anScooter Posted July 13, 2011 Author Share Posted July 13, 2011 Thanks for the advice guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 You can melee or range, either works perfectly fine at your stats. You want to emphasize offence while maintaining decent ranged defence. Since ranged gear tends to have lower defence overall, you want to go for Bandos +defender or Armadyl + shield. If you feel comfortable with luring you can instead use a two-handed ranged weapon which will increase your kill speed and prayer bonus (Karil's crossbow/handcannons + sw cape). For melee, you can already use a sw cape easily. Either way you can pray piety or eagle eye throughout. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My_Eggs Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 If you're nervous about Jad, it's a high possibility that you might mess up when the healers come. I know I always did. That's why when I've done the fights caves (5 times so far) I use deflect curses to kill Jad. All you have to do is watch a vid that way you know what Jad's magic and ranged attacks look like. Then when you get to Jad, just stand where you can see him and switch between deflect magic and deflect range whenever you see the attack. With deflect curses the healers won't spawn and it will take like 5 minutes tops to deflect him to death. 99 HP, Attack, Strength, Defence, Summoning, Ranged, Herblore, Prayer, Agility, Magic, Slayer, Fletching, Fishing, Woodcutting, Mining, and Thieving. Jagex'd out of my untrimmed hp cape on 6/14/2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barbwireboy3 Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 If you're nervous about Jad, it's a high possibility that you might mess up when the healers come. I know I always did. That's why when I've done the fights caves (5 times so far) I use deflect curses to kill Jad. All you have to do is watch a vid that way you know what Jad's magic and ranged attacks look like. Then when you get to Jad, just stand where you can see him and switch between deflect magic and deflect range whenever you see the attack. With deflect curses the healers won't spawn and it will take like 5 minutes tops to deflect him to death.I thought that had been changed so the healers now spawn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slaykan Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 No it still works I tried it recently got him almost to red bar then lagged out >.<. Good Timber does not grow with ease, the stronger the wind, the stronger the trees. There is dignity in suffering, nobility in pain, but failure is a salted wound, that burns over and over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheat Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 How recently is recently because I think the supposed fix that some people are worried about although I haven't had confirmation either way happened in the last fortnight. Pedicabo ego vos et irrumaboMinigames: Level 5 in All Barbarian Assault Roles PM me in game or on these forums to play. Over 500 Castle Wars Games with 460+ Tickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slaykan Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 How recently is recently because I think the supposed fix that some people are worried about although I haven't had confirmation either way happened in the last fortnight.I would say bout a week ago. Good Timber does not grow with ease, the stronger the wind, the stronger the trees. There is dignity in suffering, nobility in pain, but failure is a salted wound, that burns over and over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheat Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 Ok thanks I'm considering getting my firecape back tomorrow I've done the caves before but only ever killed Jad with deflects so it is good to know I can still use it. For the poster I would honestly recommend you melee the caves at your levels I find it to be much faster although admittedly as I said I haven't toe-to-toe killed Jad with melee myself. Pedicabo ego vos et irrumaboMinigames: Level 5 in All Barbarian Assault Roles PM me in game or on these forums to play. Over 500 Castle Wars Games with 460+ Tickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatherdeath Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 How recently is recently because I think the supposed fix that some people are worried about although I haven't had confirmation either way happened in the last fortnight.I would say bout a week ago. This method does NOT work. I tried it several times a couple weeks ago, and the healers still spawned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheat Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 Well that is definitely wrong because I tried this method succesfully a month ago to get a firecape so I am pretty sure it did work 'a couple of weeks ago'. Pedicabo ego vos et irrumaboMinigames: Level 5 in All Barbarian Assault Roles PM me in game or on these forums to play. Over 500 Castle Wars Games with 460+ Tickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatherdeath Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 Healers DO SPAWN WHEN USING DEFLECTS. Here's my original post after I tried using this method:http://forum.tip.it/topic/296676-jad/page__p__4919466__hl__jad__fromsearch__1#entry4919466 Two weeks ago, and they spawned then. It should be noted that I also killed the healers two times and they respawned as well (seperate attempt from deflect curses). I did break LOS with italy rock during the attempt that I was killing healers. The only way I could get the healers to quit spawning was to kill them before Jad regained full health (Killed 3 sets of healers this attempt). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheat Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 Ok well I still haven't had satisfactory confirmation that the healers now spawn. I killed Jad with deflect curses 1 month ago succesfully without the healers spawning but fatherdeath claims that more recently they did spawn so it is possible there was an update if fatherdeath didn't mess up. But I still hear people saying that they killed Jad using deflects very recently so I'm just not sure either way. Pedicabo ego vos et irrumaboMinigames: Level 5 in All Barbarian Assault Roles PM me in game or on these forums to play. Over 500 Castle Wars Games with 460+ Tickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatherdeath Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 Ok well I still haven't had satisfactory confirmation that the healers now spawn. I killed Jad with deflect curses 1 month ago succesfully without the healers spawning but fatherdeath claims that more recently they did spawn so it is possible there was an update if fatherdeath didn't mess up. But I still hear people saying that they killed Jad using deflects very recently so I'm just not sure either way. I don't see how I could have "messed up". I had SOL equipped the entire fight, because I used the spec' to allow for bad spawns. I've yet to see anyone claim that they've successfully deflected since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPMC Mate Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 Since we have controversy in this topic on whether or not Deflects work on Jad, he should not take the risk. I would say use Melee. 3 Super Sets (- Def), 6-8 Brews, 3-4 Restores, Claws/EE, Rest P Pots). Really? Cause as I recall it was you who was the one cussing me at base. Also, re-read what you just said: one 15 second delay (which is an exaggeration to begin with) ruins floor times? You are beyond ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangers5000 Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 I say use melee till jad then range jad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anScooter Posted July 14, 2011 Author Share Posted July 14, 2011 Well I just got through my first attempt. I died on wave 61 because of a sad combination of lag and an unfortunate enemy spawn. Since I won't be able to go through the whole fight caves with my Slayer Helmet now, I will not be doing the Fight Caves again right now. I will probably try again in about a week, or whenever I get assigned a task. Thanks for the help anyway guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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