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[Hedgehog]

I picked 'Enaid Anwen' because it means 'Beautiful Soul' in Welsh (which I do not speak) and I like magic and summoning.

 

No you picked it cuz it's your name backwards.

...

 

I hate you. You are so banned.

:D

[Leon S]

Went with Muggiwplhar (I__Am_Rak__I) to Saradomin GWD with mage and melee. I was tanking in torva using my CLS and a divine and Muggi was using polypore with virtus and an arcane shield. He was using leech magic and leech defence. He did surprisingly well. His accuracy was about the same as mine from what I could tell. I reckon that once leeches work with SoA again it can beat melee.

 

And polypore is still faster than range on Kree'arra, even with the new royal crossbow.

 

By the way, did you know glacors have 200 Magic levels? :D

[Quyneax]

Nope, how'd you figure that out?

 

Never thought magic would be decent on Zilyana, good to know.

[Hedgehog]

I like how sometimes people never try things because they assume it'll suck, but it ends up being good. For example, stab vs wfs, magic vs Zilyana, etc.

[Leon S]

I went to those dagannoth sentinels in the Dominion Tower to test the DPS of the royal crossbow. I was wearing pernix, using overloads and Rigour.

 

I was getting 130,964 xp/h with the royal crossbow and 92,352 xp/h with a chaotic crossbow with runite bolts. Lol that's a big difference. Sample size was an hour of combat for each set up.

 

 

I like how sometimes people never try things because they assume it'll suck, but it ends up being good. For example, stab vs wfs, magic vs Zilyana, etc.

 

Yeah, Magic does pretty well on Zilyana. I have recorded a couple of our kills which I can upload later I guess. Melee is still faster than mage right now because SoA isn't worth it on bosses right now with leech curses being broken. Royal crossbow is probably faster than polypore as well.

[Quyneax]

Holy, 40% dps boost to ranged, but only for high hp things? That's pretty cool, makes Nex that much easier yes? (except blood stage I guess).

[Ambler]

I'm buying one before everyone knows this. :lol:

[Quyneax]

I'm buying one before everyone knows this. :lol:

40% boost only applies if you're fighting one target in that hour, even Nex will die in 5 minutes or so (and blood phase sucks). I don't know how long it takes to max the blood effect but if it's 2 minutes & linear, the boost for 5 minute kills would work out to about 32%. Still a ton but yeah.

 

On another note, which MMORPG besides RS has the best character customization system?

[Saradomin_Mage]

Real Life, I've heard.

 

 

RCB : You get lock-on after I think 7 or so attacks, and the bleed effects occur 9 and 18 seconds after the initial hit, so by the 30 second mark the target should be covered in spam hits.

[Quyneax]

That's almost OP lol. If ranged wasn't so weak before this...

[Saradomin_Mage]

Eh, you do know the damage ranges from like 50-80 before lock on and then 80-125 afterwards right? :P

Nonetheless it is much better DPS than CCB + the usual

 

Edit: Just realised that I wasted 18m on this bow, GAWD DAMNIT.

[Quyneax]

Heh another 100% degrading item. Imo that's a good mechanic to keep the price up. How long do those things last anyway?

[Leon S]

Royal crossbow with Leech Ranged and Leech Defence and pernix: 133,192 xp/h.

Royal crossbow with Rigour and pernix: 130,964 xp/h.

Polypore with Leech Magic: 61,776 xp/h (123,552 xp/h if you compare it to the xp per damage melee and range get).

Goliath gloves: 149,720 xp/h. Worth noting that the dagannoth I was attacking died for some reason around 20 secs before my last overload dose ran out so you can get more xp.

Chaotic rapier: 152,116 xp/h.

Abyssal vine whip: 134,028 xp/h on accurate stance.

[Quyneax]

How's void range with that? Seems melee is still crazy unbalanced, also goliaths are OP :P. Does the multicombat special give extra xp too?

[Leon S]

Don't know, haven't tested void. I don't think it affects the royal crossbow, because I believe the hits are capped. I'll test that later. No, the multicombat special doesn't give xp.

[Quyneax]

So you'd expect goliaths to give equal xp to a whip if the hypothetical +82 strength is correct, right? Your test suggests it's closer to rapier. Or maybe it's that the dag ends up at 0 def, I guess.

[Bxpprod]

Clearly bot.

[Leon S]

Or maybe it's that the dag ends up at 0 def, I guess.

 

This probably. Dag sentinels don't have a lot of defence but I'm sure the defence lowering helps in the long run.

 

Decided to try the royal crossbow at Jad. Fight took 1 min and 10 secs ignoring the healers. Caves took a bit less than 45 min in total, I used a CCB with dragon (e) bolts for everything but Jad and dreadnips on the 360s.

 

Went back to dagannoth sentinels, this time with the Royal Crossbow, void and Rigour. Was getting 151,548 xp/h.

[Quyneax]

So void is less than 20% boost overall but still a ton, that's good to know :D. Equal to rapier now, heh.

[Quyneax]

Just had an interesting conversation with Latin (on RS, I even left the lobby :shades:).

 

Apparently glacors have their max hit reduced by 20 when you leech mage on them. Nomad and Zilyana have their max hits reduced by 30. Monster examine shows adjusted max hits. This would indicate they have a magic level of 200, respectively 300.

 

The thing is, monster examine shows melee max, not magic. You can easily check that by monster examining Ahrim (max hit 35). And leech strength apparently doesn't do anything on Zilyana or Nomad.

 

From this we conclude that Zilyana, Nomad and glacors use their magic level to determine all of their max hits, rather than just magic max hit.

 

Also, Kree'Arras magic attack is definitely range-based.

[Ambler]

:blink: That's pretty neat... Now we just need leech magic to work properly...

[Quyneax]

:blink: That's pretty neat... Now we just need leech magic to work properly...

Indeed, and while you're at it please test Krees ranged attack (mage-based? leechable?) and glacors ranged max hit (with leech mage on).

[Ambler]

Pretty sure kree's range is range, seen so many gano magers get demolished by it. :lol:

[Aiel]

kree's mage being range based confirms my unscientific testing, that's good.

[Leon S]

Kree's mage attack is so weird!! I went back to Armadyl GWD with virtus and a ganodermic poncho and her mage attack missed a lot. But it missed a ton on my torva as well. I'm so confused about her mage attack. Anyway, I'm stoked for the combat rework. They're adding a mage and range turmoil which you unlock at 95 Prayer. They're also rebalancing potions so mage and range get the same boost that you get from melee potions. They're also making mage tanks a lot more powerful. They say a mage tank will be the most effective way of dealing with a melee bosses like Graardor. Exiting stuff.