Let's help Jagex mop up the fishing guild

[Peronix]

Over the last few days, I've seen a few posts here pertaining to how badly the fishing guild was swarming with autoers. So, I decided to check it out for myself last night. I checked several worlds, and what I found was absolutly horrendous. Just about every world had at least a 3/10 autoers to total players ratio (players that behave like autoers, are low level, have level 76+ fishing, ect, ect). Some had as high as 1/2! The problem I see with the rest of the people who are actually fishing is that they were not reporting thed autoers. I asked many people about it, and they said no, they don't, because they used to but Jagex dosen't do anything about it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What I have to say is, you don't know that. You may never see that autoer again, and assuming that they were never banned isn't reasonable. And, if you saw them still there the very next morning or whenever you logged back on after several hours, well, Jagex just hasen't gotten around to them yet because they already have a TON to do! So, I implore you, take some time out of your day and head on down to the fishing guild if you can, and report any autoers you see, and encourage others to do so too. If enough reports come in on any one person, than Jagex will be more inclined to check that person out. And, if you can't take time out of your busy schedule, if you ever drop by the fishing guild to do some fishing, please, report any bots you see, and again, encourage others to do so.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But how do I know that are an auto bot, you say? Well, I will list various ways to identify them here that I have found, and you might want to use more than a few of them if you want to be careful not to report some innocent skiller.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1. Look at their level. If they are a very low level (25-) and they are fishing sharks, 9 times out of 10 they will be an autoer.

 

 

 

2. If that isn't enough for you, look their names up in the highscores. If their name only appears on fishing, and is somewhere above level 70, chances are they aren't a skiller.

 

 

 

3. If that still isn't enough, observe them for awhile. Usually autoers exhibit behavior that is very unlike an honest player. Here's a list of them:

 

 

 

a)Usually if a random even appears, like a troll, they will be very slow to respond to it, and will run after 10 seconds. Also, after running, they will stand where they ran to for like 15 seconds and then return to fishing.

 

 

 

b)When randoms like dwarves, highwaymen, and pirates appear, they will ignore them until a bit after they start firing.

 

 

 

c)If their fishing spot moves, usually they will be slower than all of the honest players to move, and on top of that, when they finally do move, they will move in a very akward way, almost gliding, like clockwork.

 

 

 

d)They will normally ignore genies and sandwitch ladies. If a suspected autobot gets one of those randoms, then write their names down. The minute they get teleported away, report them. A snapshot of this activity will normally be a lot more incriminating than just simply reporting them any other time.

 

 

 

4. Also, another way would be to add them to your friend's list. If they appear red, than means they have private turned off. Most autoers turn chat off to make themselves look like skillers with their chat off. Well, in my experience, normally low leveled skillers are pretty talkative. And, even better, if they have private on, keep PMing them. If after awhile they don't PM back telling you to shut up, then 99% of the time they will be an autoer.

 

 

 

5. A slightly time consuming but funny way to id one would be to go collect gnomeballs (you have to bank them after each game), and throw them at autoers if they don't have a weapon wielded. This will also let people that come after you log out that that person is most likely an autoer, and some may be more inclined to report them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also, don't waste your time just standing there observing autoers. Grab a harpoon/net/lobster pot and fish, silly person! :wink:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

PLEASE NOTE THAT BY NO MEANS DOES THIS APPLY SOLEY TO THE FISHING GUILD, THE FISHING SKILL, OR THE ABUSE OF MACROING FOR THAT MATTER

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Please, if you see anybody breaking the rules, don't just stand there, report them and encourage others to do so aswell so we can clean out a bit more of the bad apples that are a scourage to this game! I only mention the fishing guild and enoucourage others to take the time to report autoers there because the situation is becoming increasingly worse! If somthing isn't done, then the hundreds of thousands of sharks that are funneled into the game unfairly by autoers will cause the price on sharks to decrease! Sure, you PKers will be happy, but then all of those people that fish sharks for money will be out of a way to make money. And is it really fair that these people make millions daily because they aren't banned for breaking the rules soon enough? No! Certainly not!

[Barihawk]

Just make sure it does not become a witch-hunt.

[Cavedive1]

Thanks, this post was very helpful. I Finally noticed an autoer for the first time. My little brother happened to be following me at the time and I was able to give him a quick and simple schooling on what an autoer acts like. However, at the time, I was not sure it wasn't someone just icnoring me. Because of this, I didnt report them. I didnt want to make a mistake. But after reading this post, I'm able to say I feel better informed. I'm more than willing to help in the fight against cheaters.

[Faux]

Rofl, I'm [bleep]ed if I start playing again then. I do those 'hints' a lot of times since I'm on the forums a lot.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hope you don't screw over someone who isn't autoing though.

[Peronix]

Rofl, I'm * if I start playing again then. I do those 'hints' a lot of times since I'm on the forums a lot.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hope you don't screw over someone who isn't autoing though.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I sure hope so too. That's why I try my best to make very sure that I'm reporting someone who is actually an autoer.

[silver24-7]

love your post :)

 

 

 

everyones complaining about autoers but you actually took some time to do something about it :)

 

 

 

Way to go and for eveyone else if these autoers really bother u this much DO SOMETHING ABOUT THEM, and don't you say thats jagex' job because u can be very helpful as well.

[trunksrs]

love your post :)

 

 

 

everyones complaining about autoers but you actually took some time to do something about it :)

 

 

 

Way to go and for eveyone else if these autoers really bother u this much DO SOMETHING ABOUT THEM, and don't you say thats jagex' job because u can be very helpful as well.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I really dont care if they are autoers or not, if they are lvl 3, they should not be in the guild. Runescape is actually a game that you can play, not fish a ton of sharks to sell. These are probably the people that are selling a couple hundred mil on ebay.

[xxxrunescapexxx]

u dont get people banned for reporting them. if they get reported enuff for the same thing then jagex flags their acc. if they notice that they have constantly clicked the same exact spot for 10 hrs straight then they will look into possibility of bannings.

[Peronix]

u dont get people banned for reporting them. if they get reported enuff for the same thing then jagex flags their acc. if they notice that they have constantly clicked the same exact spot for 10 hrs straight then they will look into possibility of bannings.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That's exactly the point of my post. A few people reporting these autoers simply isn't enough! If you see an autoer, report him, and encourage others to aswell so they get enough reports to be flagged. Once that happens, a Jagex mod investigates the situatioin and permanantly bans the account if they appear enough like an autoer.

[tq_69er]

yeah im always worry about reporting people about autoing..

 

 

 

but thanks for the advice ill keep an eye out but i supose as we get rid of one autoer 5 more are created.. the community is going to have to get use to autoers..

[scruffman]

personally i could care less about autoers, but i do alot of those things while i fish and i don't auto...

[Peronix]

yeah im always worry about reporting people about autoing..

 

 

 

but thanks for the advice ill keep an eye out but i supose as we get rid of one autoer 5 more are created.. the community is going to have to get use to autoers..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I doubt that. You actually have to pay for members and TRAIN the autoer first. I'm sure if we were all vigilant enough about reporting them they would be banned faster than new ones could gain access to the guild... mabye even get a few of them banned even before that 8)

[mario_sunny]

very very helpful post :D

[DroolMAN]

I happen to realise that many of these alleged auto'ers are members. What I have come to realise is these so called auto'ers are probably operated by person(s) that sell RuneScape items for real world money.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Here are my observations. I was in Catherby recently and saw 3 level 20+ characters (I call them pawns since they are look the same, the default avatar), huddling around a 4th character (I call these repositories). I did a screen shot on all the 4 characters and checked out their stats. True enough, the first 3 have high fishing levels (able to fish sharks) which the 4th very high cooking stats. In the next few minutes a 5th character logged in with 98 cooking and joined in the other 4.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From the above, I know you will be able to decipher that these pawns are created solely to gather resources, may it be fishes, ore or wood. Then all these are given to the repositories. Since the former are the automated players, they are the ones getting banned. There are probably hundreds of them so the loss of a few accounts isnÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t that great. What matters is the latter, the one that holds all the resources since it only logs in for a short while to receive items, its detection is often missed.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now, you might be wondering, ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦Ã¢â¬ÅWho in the right mind would pay 5 bucks, automates with the risk of getting banned?ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬ÃâÃ

[Purefighta23]

i auto 24\7\365 for the last 5 years. i havent got caught once. im lvl 126 w\ all stats 99 except farming which is 2. i win u all :arrow:

[jessy87]

I happen to realise that many of these alleged auto'ers are members. What I have come to realise is these so called auto'ers are probably operated by person(s) that sell RuneScape items for real world money.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Here are my observations. I was in Catherby recently and saw 3 level 20+ characters (I call them pawns since they are look the same, the default avatar), huddling around a 4th character (I call these repositories). I did a screen shot on all the 4 characters and checked out their stats. True enough, the first 3 have high fishing levels (able to fish sharks) which the 4th very high cooking stats. In the next few minutes a 5th character logged in with 98 cooking and joined in the other 4.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From the above, I know you will be able to decipher that these pawns are created solely to gather resources, may it be fishes, ore or wood. Then all these are given to the repositories. Since the former are the automated players, they are the ones getting banned. There are probably hundreds of them so the loss of a few accounts isnÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t that great. What matters is the latter, the one that holds all the resources since it only logs in for a short while to receive items, its detection is often missed.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now, you might be wondering, ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦Ã¢â¬ÅWho in the right mind would pay 5 bucks, automates with the risk of getting banned?ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬ÃâÃ

[Peronix]

I happen to realise that many of these alleged auto'ers are members. What I have come to realise is these so called auto'ers are probably operated by person(s) that sell RuneScape items for real world money.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Here are my observations. I was in Catherby recently and saw 3 level 20+ characters (I call them pawns since they are look the same, the default avatar), huddling around a 4th character (I call these repositories). I did a screen shot on all the 4 characters and checked out their stats. True enough, the first 3 have high fishing levels (able to fish sharks) which the 4th very high cooking stats. In the next few minutes a 5th character logged in with 98 cooking and joined in the other 4.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From the above, I know you will be able to decipher that these pawns are created solely to gather resources, may it be fishes, ore or wood. Then all these are given to the repositories. Since the former are the automated players, they are the ones getting banned. There are probably hundreds of them so the loss of a few accounts isnÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t that great. What matters is the latter, the one that holds all the resources since it only logs in for a short while to receive items, its detection is often missed.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now, you might be wondering, ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦Ã¢â¬ÅWho in the right mind would pay 5 bucks, automates with the risk of getting banned?ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬ÃâÃ

[jabraulter]

Just make sure it does not become a witch-hunt.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh, the Salem Witch Trials...dear me.

[scrstd15]

the only thing is that legit people that do only do one score get harrased even if they are fine. Me being a lvl 3 with 81 wcing (all others 1 and 10 hp) i would say that i get told by people that they reported me just because i am browsing forums and dont answer every single time they say "wcing lvl"

[Bluey]

 

 

 

4. Also, another way would be to add them to your friend's list. If they appear red, than means they have private turned off. Most autoers turn chat off to make themselves look like skillers with their chat off. Well, in my experience, normally low leveled skillers are pretty talkative. And, even better, if they have private on, keep PMing them. If after awhile they don't PM back telling you to shut up, then 99% of the time they will be an autoer.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I was under the impression that (if pm is set to friends) unless you were on the (suspected) autoers friends list, he'll appear to you as offline and won't receive your PMs, regardless of whether he's on your friends list ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Plus, I think the pm-ing is a bad idea. Take me for example:

 

 

 

Sending unsollicited pms nagging me will go unanswered AND you'll get a quick trip to my ignore list. Leaving you in the dark as to whether I'm a bot or not.

 

 

 

If I PM back telling them to shut up, I'd be acknowledging them, and that's about as bad as replying to spam. "Ignore" is the keyword here.

[trunksrs]

I happen to realise that many of these alleged auto'ers are members. What I have come to realise is these so called auto'ers are probably operated by person(s) that sell RuneScape items for real world money.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Here are my observations. I was in Catherby recently and saw 3 level 20+ characters (I call them pawns since they are look the same, the default avatar), huddling around a 4th character (I call these repositories). I did a screen shot on all the 4 characters and checked out their stats. True enough, the first 3 have high fishing levels (able to fish sharks) which the 4th very high cooking stats. In the next few minutes a 5th character logged in with 98 cooking and joined in the other 4.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From the above, I know you will be able to decipher that these pawns are created solely to gather resources, may it be fishes, ore or wood. Then all these are given to the repositories. Since the former are the automated players, they are the ones getting banned. There are probably hundreds of them so the loss of a few accounts isnÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t that great. What matters is the latter, the one that holds all the resources since it only logs in for a short while to receive items, its detection is often missed.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now, you might be wondering, ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦Ã¢â¬ÅWho in the right mind would pay 5 bucks, automates with the risk of getting banned?ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬ÃâÃ

[ddrm2]

how exactly can you catch an autoer?

[assassin_696]

I think you forgot to add to that list trying to initiate conversation with the suspected autoer. I know a lot of people AFK fish but it's just one more screening process to make sure that people aren't unfairly reported.

[lagatag]

I agree, but its still difficult for jagex to prove they are autoers. Jagex obviously can't catch the program or there would have been another mass ban for rs2. Jagex mods don't have time to question every single autoer. Also jagex disregards like 90% of the abuse reports. I've sent in about 20, and haven't gotten more than 3 replies back.

[Raichase]

Most autoers also have random names, to make them harder to report. A lot of them will be x6f843 or something.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If someone has a name like that, I watch them, and if I see the default avatar, and the other signs, they are reported. Bunch of us caught 3 of them at Catherby recently.