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CONQUEST!


Conquest is one of the most underrated minigames in RS with lots of in-depth strategy and theorycrafting. Its mechanics are easy to understand, but can get complex in execution.

Discuss the game here. Also tell everyone you know to start playing it more.

Some thoughts I've come across ever since coming back to the game:

Units
  • Foot Soldiers are deceptively powerful. I used to think they were utter trash since they had crappy movement and attack, but they make excellent counter scout-rush units and don't die to bombard-scout attacks like halberds do. With shield wall or stoicism, they make for a disgustingly annoying unit to kill and are still only worth 50 points to the enemy
  • Scouts are probably the most OP unit. While they're outranged by archers and mages by 2 and 1 units respectively, they're also only worth 25 CPs. They make excellent bait and when used with BC/Stoicism/Charge, their offensive prowess skyrockets. Their cheapness is great for forcing unfavorable trades for the enemy and also allows more room for stronger units and commands. Their flexibility and versatility is unmatched.
  • Champs are still amazing units despite the 100 HP nerf a while back. However with tricky stuff like bombard/charge/BC scouts, they need to be protected a lot more and should only be brought out if the player can assure they'll wreck maximum havoc.
  • Halberds are a solid unit. They can render the vigilance ability useless on all non-ranged units. 4th longest range for a unit. I don't have much experience with a mass hally setup and I still think a bombard setup can do well against it, but it's worth looking into
  • I haven't found a good place for mages and archers. If you go second, you need to be super paranoid and protect them like crazy since charge-scouts will one shot them. I tried a strategy where I used mass scouts to block off a single mage or archer, but whenever I faced mass scouts they would just trade scouts with me until I could no longer protect the archer. Maybe mass FS + a mage would be better?
  • Knights are an interesting unit. They can make for good units to 1 shot BC'd scouts and have the potential to 1-shot champs with BC/charge. However, their vulnerability to BC'd scouts themselves make them hard to place for me. Perhaps a knight would be a good pairing with the mass FS+mage strat since he has the ability to kill BC'd scouts or Stoic'd scouts with BC.
Commands
  • Regenerate is probably the worst ability in the game now. It was decent back when champs had 600 HP to make them annoying difficult to kill, but with the nerf I feel like stoicism is just strictly better.
  • I can't think of any solid setups that skip BC/Charge. There's just too much potency in these two abilities.
  • Winds of Fate seems like it has a lot of potential, but it's incredibly hard to use. Using it is just as or more expensive compared to bombard and you're faced with two choices when using it: Either use your abilities asynchronously or play the RNG game.
  • Bombard is another high potency ability. Given that players are typically sitting on massive piles of points late game, having a place to spend them is great. So long as the unit has more than 100 HP and an attack is made right after, the net loss in points isn't actually that bad.
  • Shield wall and stoicism are somewhat similar in function. Both are meant to let a unit tank an extra hit or two. Shield wall is probably better for taking on champs whereas stoicism works on any unit with more than 100 HP. Unfortunately, both are countered by chastise.
  • Chastise is probably the best ability right after BC and Charge. Locking down a unit is incredibly powerful and it effectively bypasses the effects of stoicism/shield wall/vigilance while only having a 3 turn CD. Still has a nasty bug attached to it that lets players chastise the last unit on a team - really unfair stuff
Miscellaneous Musings
  • Jagex should allow players to unlock Hybrid gear from the minigame. It gives an alternative to mind-numbingly boring PC, encourages a healthier population of players, and also entices Jagex to fix some of the nastier bugs still left in the game.
  • Met quite a few of the high rating regulars, ranging from 3k to 15k rating. Most of them are open to strategy discussions and are pretty chill, except this one fellow who comes off as pretty cocky.
  • A single misclick can cost the game. Things can go sour really quickly just from misclicking a command or not using corners properly. I lost two games by a single unit just because I misclicked a movement phase and failed to kill a unit.
  • Not too fond of boosters. I wish there was a good measure to discourage it. It doesn't promote actual play of the game which is disappointing.
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You make a fair suggestion.

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Barrows has always been fair to me..one of the few things/places that has. Hope yours changes..

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My most exciting drop so far as been 111 bolt racks and miscellaneous runes <_<

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Finished WGS!!!

Such a good quest and I'm glad I finally got around to it. A little sad, but also really epic.

Why do ovls make everything trivial? lol

I need to do a boatload more quests now :shades:

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It are my birthday today. HBD to me.

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Oops, belated congratulations :).
Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions
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99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013)
99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013)
Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring
Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace
30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted

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Got 15 charms today. Soooooooo goooooood :thumbsup:

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Grats lol :P.
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99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011)
99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012)
99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012)
99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013)
99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013)
Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring
Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace
30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted

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On a completely unrelated RS note, I just finished ME1 and am about halfway through ME2. Why did I not pick up these games until now? :shock:

Oh wait, Steam only put them on sale for $10 recently.

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Finished BRD, got two prayer levels, 2101 total

Back to talon beast charm collection

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Finished RoTM. What a good quest :thumbsup:

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Congratulations :).
Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions
99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011)
99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012)
99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012)
99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013)
99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013)
Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring
Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace
30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted





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