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Conquest is one of the most underrated minigames in RS with lots of in-depth strategy and theorycrafting. Its mechanics are easy to understand, but can get complex in execution.

 

Discuss the game here. Also tell everyone you know to start playing it more.

 

Some thoughts I've come across ever since coming back to the game:

 

Units

  • Foot Soldiers are deceptively powerful. I used to think they were utter trash since they had crappy movement and attack, but they make excellent counter scout-rush units and don't die to bombard-scout attacks like halberds do. With shield wall or stoicism, they make for a disgustingly annoying unit to kill and are still only worth 50 points to the enemy
  • Scouts are probably the most OP unit. While they're outranged by archers and mages by 2 and 1 units respectively, they're also only worth 25 CPs. They make excellent bait and when used with BC/Stoicism/Charge, their offensive prowess skyrockets. Their cheapness is great for forcing unfavorable trades for the enemy and also allows more room for stronger units and commands. Their flexibility and versatility is unmatched.
  • Champs are still amazing units despite the 100 HP nerf a while back. However with tricky stuff like bombard/charge/BC scouts, they need to be protected a lot more and should only be brought out if the player can assure they'll wreck maximum havoc.
  • Halberds are a solid unit. They can render the vigilance ability useless on all non-ranged units. 4th longest range for a unit. I don't have much experience with a mass hally setup and I still think a bombard setup can do well against it, but it's worth looking into
  • I haven't found a good place for mages and archers. If you go second, you need to be super paranoid and protect them like crazy since charge-scouts will one shot them. I tried a strategy where I used mass scouts to block off a single mage or archer, but whenever I faced mass scouts they would just trade scouts with me until I could no longer protect the archer. Maybe mass FS + a mage would be better?
  • Knights are an interesting unit. They can make for good units to 1 shot BC'd scouts and have the potential to 1-shot champs with BC/charge. However, their vulnerability to BC'd scouts themselves make them hard to place for me. Perhaps a knight would be a good pairing with the mass FS+mage strat since he has the ability to kill BC'd scouts or Stoic'd scouts with BC.

Commands

  • Regenerate is probably the worst ability in the game now. It was decent back when champs had 600 HP to make them annoying difficult to kill, but with the nerf I feel like stoicism is just strictly better.
  • I can't think of any solid setups that skip BC/Charge. There's just too much potency in these two abilities.
  • Winds of Fate seems like it has a lot of potential, but it's incredibly hard to use. Using it is just as or more expensive compared to bombard and you're faced with two choices when using it: Either use your abilities asynchronously or play the RNG game.
  • Bombard is another high potency ability. Given that players are typically sitting on massive piles of points late game, having a place to spend them is great. So long as the unit has more than 100 HP and an attack is made right after, the net loss in points isn't actually that bad.
  • Shield wall and stoicism are somewhat similar in function. Both are meant to let a unit tank an extra hit or two. Shield wall is probably better for taking on champs whereas stoicism works on any unit with more than 100 HP. Unfortunately, both are countered by chastise.
  • Chastise is probably the best ability right after BC and Charge. Locking down a unit is incredibly powerful and it effectively bypasses the effects of stoicism/shield wall/vigilance while only having a 3 turn CD. Still has a nasty bug attached to it that lets players chastise the last unit on a team - really unfair stuff

Miscellaneous Musings

  • Jagex should allow players to unlock Hybrid gear from the minigame. It gives an alternative to mind-numbingly boring PC, encourages a healthier population of players, and also entices Jagex to fix some of the nastier bugs still left in the game.
  • Met quite a few of the high rating regulars, ranging from 3k to 15k rating. Most of them are open to strategy discussions and are pretty chill, except this one fellow who comes off as pretty cocky.
  • A single misclick can cost the game. Things can go sour really quickly just from misclicking a command or not using corners properly. I lost two games by a single unit just because I misclicked a movement phase and failed to kill a unit.
  • Not too fond of boosters. I wish there was a good measure to discourage it. It doesn't promote actual play of the game which is disappointing.

Irrelevant material below:

 

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Origin of this Blug

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I'm one of those weird people who see significance in pretty mundane things. Seeing that my standing counted post count on TIF hit 2011, I thought I'd start a blug.

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Who I am

[hide]I am an ancient Maltese practitioner of alchemy at a Shaolin Temple. I played croquet at an Olympic level, but retired to take up freefall chess-fencing. I have 15 extra bones that are not normal to humans, but I have adapted them into a collapsing framework that can used as a perch for my companion albatross, Koo.

 

I am also none of these things and I play Runescape.[/hide]

 

Current Main Goal: 3000 Talon Beast Charms

 

I'm really dumb and want to get this relatively unrealistic goal. However, I do rather enjoy temple trekking and I value the xp rewards and being a virtual swamp is pretty cool. I'll also be able to collect enough Vyre corpses to max my blisterwood polearm while I'm at it.

 

Current count: 740

Corpse count: 400

 

Stat Updates

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(October 17, 2011)

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Completed Goals

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90 Ranged/92 Firemaking/99 Farming

99 Farming woo!

 

Joined DGS as a recruit. Accepted by Tui <3:

Join a Dungeoneering Clan

I want to join a community where people know what they're doing. I really want to learn from the best on how to key, path, coordinate, and communicate. I've always really enjoyed co-op elements of any game and this is one of the best co-op experiences when you get good competent team mates.

 

I'm thinking of DGS, but they have rather high requirements in terms of time that I can't commit at this time, though I think I can hit the point where I'm competent enough to join them.

 

Get a Fire Cape

Donezo

 

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Skill Goals

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These levels are simply what I want to achieve before I stop caring about what level I get thereafter. Obviously I aspire to get 99 eventually, but I these goals are the main breakpoints.

 

Most of them are dungeoneering and effigy releated goals lol.

 

90 in all Melees

Just to round my combats out for bossing or whatever.

 

96 Magic

Just for spellbook swap and also have vengeance.

 

95 Prayer

Turmoil/SS. My top priority for buyables.

 

90 Agility

For Kuradal dungeon

 

90 Fishing

Cave morays and I guess rocktails if I ever want to AFK fishing.

 

89 Runecrafting

To be able to boost to effigies, but once I hit 77 for bloods I don't care that much.

 

70 Construction

Just for quest requirements lol. Dislike this skill. A click-intensive and a deep money sink that doesn't offer enough utility for me. I would maybe consider 75 cons for altars in dungeoneering.

 

90 Fletching

Dungeoneering and effigies I guess

 

99 Slayer

Want me a hex lol. Don't really expect to get this at all soon, but the cape looks pretty rad.

 

90 Cooking

Dungeoneering and I guess effigies.

 

96 Herblore

Being able to make ovls without boosting.

 

99 Smithing

I like smithing as a skill even if it's not really that useful. This is probably the skill that I would want to trim my farming cape with, but I don't think I'll get it before I hit 99 with another skill.

 

81 Hunter

For herblore habitat

 

96 Summoning

Yak

 

91 Thieving

Last room for PP just so I have access to it. Also I guess effigies.

 

90 Mining

Dungeoneering.

 

90 Woodcutting

Dungeoneering

 

120 Dungeoneering

 

I like this skill. I really want 120, but it's really far down the line. Chaotics and rewards would be also pretty nice.

 

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Other Goals

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Finish all Quests

Still haven't done stuff like wgs and Nomad's Requiem lololol. I do have a strong intention to do so though.

 

Attempts so far: 5

 

Get Any Drop Worth >1 million gp

The most exciting drop I've ever received was a d med from Nechryaels and I still get a little giddy from dragon daggers.

 

Something actually nice would be cool.

 

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Accomplishments

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Coming Soon™

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Current RS-related Projects

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Temple Trekking Guide

Working on something for Tip.it and hopefully it makes it into the AoW

Done for now. Will update later though

 

Crew stuff mostly now

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Things I have Beat Quyneax in

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Won a Conquest Game

Got 596 total levels in Temple Trekking first

 

:)

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Non-RS Interests

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Coming Soon™

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Random Stuff

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In regards to this, I have changed my profile photo:

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hi sinkhan and ____________________________________________________________________

wut

 

Also posting in interesting blog

oh hey you think this blog is interesting

 

official harpie connoisseur

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Halloween 2011

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Ohi.


Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions

99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011)

99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012)

99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012)

99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013)

99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013)

Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring

Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace

30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted

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Barrows has always been fair to me..one of the few things/places that has. Hope yours changes..


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Oops, belated congratulations :).


Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions

99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011)

99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012)

99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012)

99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013)

99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013)

Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring

Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace

30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted

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^^My blog of EoC PvM, lols and Therapy.^^

My livestream- Currently: Offline :(

Offical Harpy Therapist of the Mad

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Barrows drops: Dharok's helm x2, Guthan's helm, Ahrim's top, Hood and skirt, Torag's hammers, Karils skirt, Karil's top, Torag's helm, Verac's skirt, Verac's Flail, Dharok's Platebody.

Dag kings drops: Lost count! :wall:

4k+ Glacors, 7 Ragefires, 4 Steadfasts, 4 Glaivens, 400+ shards![/hide]

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Grats lol :P.


Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions

99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011)

99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012)

99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012)

99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013)

99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013)

Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring

Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace

30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted

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Congratulations :).


Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions

99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011)

99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012)

99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012)

99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013)

99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013)

Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring

Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace

30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted

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Congrats!


"300 programmers make their futile but glorious last stand against 1000000 angry players in The battle of Misthalin. They fight for honor, glory and new content sacrificing themselves so that their game may live on. This is Madness! This Is JAGEEEX!"

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Full Agile :D

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Agility is one of those skills that I pseudo-enjoy (actually-enjoy is farming) more than any other skill just because I keep imagining it in my mind to be this super awesome, cool, and useful skill, but in reality it's not.

 

At least these will be ok for PKing bots or something :unsure:

 

Also level 88 agility, 950k until I'm pretty much done with this skill.

 

Also holy crap a blog post.

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because I keep imagining it in my mind to be this super awesome, cool, and useful skill, but in reality it's not.

This is true. It's all like, look I can do Prince of Persia awesome moves. But, not in combat. Also, doing awesome moves doesn't actually do anything. :(. Grats anyway.


Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions

99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011)

99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012)

99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012)

99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013)

99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013)

Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring

Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace

30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted

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