Fastest Charms?

[Aten]

After actually having to try in order to successfully crash people on slayer tasks, given that I don't have a steel titan I'd like to just camp something right now to get the charms for 99 summ rather than wait it out with slayer. Yeah camping is somewhat xp waste, but that aside...

 

Max melee, 95 range, 99 magic, 96 prayer, ovls, 91 summ, pretty much have most gear accessible...

 

Where should I camp for the fastest crims/blues and what setup should I use? Also, I haven't tried familiarization yet, but is the best place to camp for 3x different from the best charm dropper normally (can't imagine this to be the case, but who knows...)? TDs, glakkers, CT fiends, soa miths, gano, barraging rock lobs?

[Th e Doctor]

Glakkers are good, CT waterfiends are best with triple charms I believe. CannoningI' kalphites in the Do No Evil lair is about as good summoning xp through blue charms as cannoning black demons/ killing AC waterfiends. I'd say CT fiends are your best bet for triples and do glakkers after that for cash/effigies/charms.

[Ambler]

From what I've seen, Glacors are decent blues/ crims, while for triple charms you should go to Chaos Tunnel or Ancient Cavern 'fiends.

[The_Fray]

The best place for 2x charms is CT fiends. I would barrage rock lobsters as they seem to provide the best charms overall, if you are willing to spend the money that is. Current rune prices are a bit high.

[Th e Doctor]

The best place for 2x charms is CT fiends. I would barrage rock lobsters as they seem to provide the best charms overall, if you are willing to spend the money that is. Current rune prices are a bit high.

 

99 magic means barraging lobstes is a gross inefficient waste of exp considering there are compareable charm rates elsewhere for much less money/profit.

[JeRambo]

I'd do black demons in taverly ... ~120 crims/hr and you would get a lot of effigies as well as range XP. Setup would be full bandos, steads, fc, rapier, ovls, tort, urns, herbicide, wrench, etc. Protect melee.

 

Or TDs for like 40 blues/hr and good cash as well. That's what I did for most of my XP.

[Aten]

Thanks for the advice guys, and yeah I want to stay away from rock lobs if possible given that there's no other obvious benefits to camping them. I guess I'll alternate black demons and glacors then :>

 

For black demons, am I better off setting up cannon, hiding and then doing something else (while ovl'd ofc) so it becomes effectively multi? Hi 200m fletch + I'm already max melee but not 99 ranged. Is this faster charms or should I just stick to meleeing? The cash loss isn't really a huge deal.

[JeRambo]

I would just melee and cannon, not fletch. Meleeing is faster charms.

[Riptide Mage]

Rough numbers assuming best non-nex-dropped gear:

 

Rock Lobsters

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79,884 summoning exp/hr ignoring golds and greens

97,500 summoning exp/hr counting golds and greens

0 effigies/hr

 

Waterfiends

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86,740 summoning exp/hr ignoring golds and greens

91,430 summoning exp/hr counting golds and greens

.35 effigies/hr

 

Tormented Demon

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60,848 summoning exp/hr ignoring golds and greens

65,267 summoning exp/hr counting golds and greens

.6 effigies/hr

 

Black Dragons

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30,282 summoning exp/hr ignoring golds and greens

61,924 summoning exp/hr counting golds and greens

.7 effigies/hr

 

Black Demons

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49,705 summoning exp/hr ignoring golds and greens

57,796 summoning exp/hr counting golds and greens

.5 effigies/hr

 

Glacors

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50,120 summoning exp/hr ignoring golds and greens

52,716 summoning exp/hr counting golds and greens

.6 effigies/hr

 

Slayer

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Based on my log of 3.5 mil slayer EXP (skipping and cancelling tasks that do not have good effigy drop rates):

28,746 summoning exp/hr ignoring golds and greens

41,125 summoning exp/hr counting golds and greens

.5 effigies/hr

[Aten]

Waterfiends

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86,740 summoning exp/hr ignoring golds and greens

91,430 summoning exp/hr counting golds and greens

.35 effigies/hr

 

 

I assume this is CT with iron titan?

[Quyneax]

There's also a couple of other methods out there, though Riptide covered most of them well:

 

Cannon + titan + maul on rock lobsters, using the 7 lobster spot past the King's lair ladder.

Cave crawlers, mostly greens but lots of effigies (high cost).

[Aten]

Bumping this because my situation has changed slightly (namely, I will be getting 99 ranged by cannoning stuff for champion scrolls per my trimmed comp goal + I already finished prayer... which leaves summ only. Sadly that means all other xp gained is "wasted")...

 

I had originally planned to go to Glacors, but then I read Riptide's post again and noticed the absurdly large difference between rock lobs and glakkers... I've set aside a large portion of my bank for cannonballs/SoAing/leech floor money so I don't have as much mobilisable liquid $ as I'd like right now (EDIT: for gathering charms).

 

How much would I approximately look to be spending at rock lobs per hour? Also, what's the optimal gear for barraging there? I recall Enaid mentioning sol + akrisae > cs + virtus here. Would battle robes be an even better alternative?

 

I was thinking battle robes, asn, SW cape, ragefire, seers i, sol, tome of frost, barrows gloves, geyser titan, ovls, praying melee and augury?

[Quyneax]

Since you have money to spare, I'd just use Akrisae's robes with soul wars cape, sol, arcane shield and stuff. No familiar, only pray during luring, overloads are a waste. If you want to spend all that money you should cannon them (either with storm or barrage, not sure which is best).

[Powerfrog]

Probably not one of the best, but KBD is really suprisingly good crimsons. He drops 4 at a time very commonly. Only problem is the fact theres only one of him, and his spawn rate is like 60 seconds or something*. Still well over 100 crims an hour, and a fairly decent profit.

 

*Why the hell does no one document spawn times of bosses? It seems really important for finding killrates yet none of the big sites, including tip.it, seem to document it.

[Aten]

Since you have money to spare, I'd just use Akrisae's robes with soul wars cape, sol, arcane shield and stuff. No familiar, only pray during luring, overloads are a waste. If you want to spend all that money you should cannon them (either with storm or barrage, not sure which is best).

 

I meant that I don't have that much money set aside for getting charms :P

[Powerfrog]

So i just did a quick check. on a 1100 pop world, kbd took almost exactly 50 seconds to respawn.

 

So i'm assuming max pop is 30 second spawns. Consistant 30 second kills doesn't seem out of the question, especially with the use of spec restores.

 

So 60 kills an hour is about:

20.4 golds an hour

9.6 greens an hour

146.4 crimsons an hour

3.6 blues an hour

0.3 effigies an hour

 

Actually beats everything on jd13's list in terms of charms apart from waterfiends and lobsters. And seems pretty identical to what i get in AC waterfiends. I'm shocked.

[Aten]

Suddenly I'm interested ;o I wonder how that compares to miths (since I still have 9 ancient pages to get).

[bladekill133]

At 1100 pop, I get about 40 kph using iron titan (no spec restore). At many times, 1100 is close to the max pop of any world, and there's rarely ever more than like 2-3 worlds above that mark. It's not comparable to other methods.

 

EDIT: Not only that, but waterfiends should be more than 146 crims per hour in CT with iron titan. I can get 290 kph on task, and wouldn't even need 200 kph to beat KBD.

 

EDIT 2: Repeated the test, again 40 kph.

[Ambler]

I have been managing 180 crims/ hour, cannoning black demons, (60/ 20 mins, then 120 after 40 mins)

Illrecord a 15 minute rip or two later.

[Powerfrog]

At 1100 pop, I get about 40 kph using iron titan (no spec restore). At many times, 1100 is close to the max pop of any world, and there's rarely ever more than like 2-3 worlds above that mark. It's not comparable to other methods.

 

EDIT: Not only that, but waterfiends should be more than 146 crims per hour in CT with iron titan. I can get 290 kph on task, and wouldn't even need 200 kph to beat KBD.

 

EDIT 2: Repeated the test, again 40 kph.

Yeah in practical terms it's going to be impossible to get a steady 2k pop world because jagex are too proud to close more worlds due to the majority of their playerbase being broken robots.

You can almost always get the max pop world though. Theres very little competition, and most of it is low level.