The Back Room

[Icuownage]

Card system is pretty good, but the system for magic has already been created :) thanks for the suggestion though.

 

Thursday seems like the best day, so thursday for the first session it is then!

 

I'll quickly go create a thread. :P

[Jehosaphat]

Hmm... Finalizing my idea...

 

My system is going to be based far, far in the hypothetical future, after WW3, when the few humans left have essentially all become cyborgs, reliant on ever-improving cybernetics for their as-usual human warfare. The most recent development would be a set of "augmentation chips" produced via dubious means by various sources, and can be used for basically anything when combined correctly. They would be reusable, have a recharge time based on how much power they use, and have their limits, of course. Also, if a character uses one specific chip type for a while, they gain an affinity to that type of chip - making them more proficient in its use, but less proficient in the use of other, "polarly-related" chips. Eventually, an affinity can reach a point where a character is incapable of competently using any chip but their proficient one. (Good example: A character with a high Fire affinity would be useless if trying to use a Ice or Water chip, but would probably do fine if trying to use Air, Earth, Metal... until he gets a very high Fire affinity, in which case he can only really use Fire or Fire-related elementals, like Lava or Smoke.) There are 5 slots in the augmentation system - Elemental, Effect, Special, Type A, and Type B. A single character can only use 1 augmentation system at a time - meaning only one "spell" or "weapon" can be used at a time. Also, switching between chips can take anywhere between a second and 5 minutes, so multiclassing is a bit more dangerous. Effects from the last chip used last for varying times, however - usually in accordance with the power of the chip combination.

 

More detail on what each chip-slot does:

Elemental - This decides the basic element used. There are a massive variety of these.

Effect - Decides any extra effects that may be caused. This slot seems to be compatible with Elemental chips, as well as specialized Effect chips.

Special - Gives extra special effects, such as armor-piercing, multiple-shot/weild, forging, and long-range-acquisition. These tend to be more rare than anything else.

Type A - This determines the basic polarity of the action. Currently known chips for this slot are Offensive, Defensive, and Passive.

Type B - This determines the weapon polarity - such as launched spheres, magical swords, an assault of millions of dancing elemental chimpanzees, sky's the limit.

 

The more powerful a chip combination is, the more draining it is on the user. (This gets lessened with time and affinity.)

 

PCs would start in a basic started dungeon with a set of GM-approved-for-non-OPness chips of their choice, and an option to join each other to do stuff or an option to go freelance. And since it's the far future and you start with the best tech available, new types appearing for possible use are fairly rare - they're popular enough to the point where just about everybody has a set, but still rare enough that you don't randomly stumble into them everywhere.

 

Dice will still be used for actions, although the placement of things will be considered before any rolling is done. (Or, to say it differently, if you run into an eldritch horror while still a newbie, and you try to kill it, it doesn't matter how high you roll, YOU GONNA DIE. Same goes for any possible accidental "You fall into a sewer unconscious THIRTY TIMES IN A STUPID ROW" stuff - the flow will usually make sense in about as much sense can be made in a universe where people can make their arms shoot glowing, poisonous otters. And yes, I have a planned NPC that can do this.)

 

So, what do you guys think? I've tried to make the system balanced while keeping multiclassing a possible option. Also tried to reduce the random "Oh hey, I use this random type of magic I've never even heard of RIGHT OUT OF THIN AIR." Oh, and player crafting will still be available, just a bit harder and less powerful than running around kicking monster tail.

[Earth]

This is good, Stork. VERY GOOD.

[archimage_a]

Ok. So...

We have these 5 slots, which we can't add to because of some reason(Stops OP).

The first slot is an affinity slot, defining how our abilities manifest themselves.

The second slot defines an effect.

The third slot modulates that effect to be better at one thing or other, and worse at something else.

The forth slot modulates the first two chips

The fifth slot modulates the effect again.

 

 

I think it might be an idea to roll slot 5 and 2 into one slot, since they do the same kinda thing.

Slot four, means rather than carrying around Shield, Area Effect and Resistance type 2s, you could just carry around area effect and the three type 4s, and these would modulate the area effect from Explosion(Offensive), Shield(Defensive) and Resistance(Passive).

 

Overall I think it is rather creative, I am just concern slightly since guns and swords pale in comparison.

I mean, are we going to run around shooting guns 99% of the time and then occassionally fire Death(1) Wide(3) Beam(2) Eyes?

Or will we rarely have any recourse to use weapons because we can run around with Seeker(3) Fire(1)Balls(2) flying from our arms 24/7?

 

My other main concern is multi-threading(Aka everyone has their own adventure) is either very slow or very complicated...or both. And in those circumstances you may be hard pressed to remember all of the various weapons people have.

[Jehosaphat]

Ok. So...

We have these 5 slots, which we can't add to because of some reason(Stops OP).

The first slot is an affinity slot, defining how our abilities manifest themselves.

The second slot defines an effect.

The third slot modulates that effect to be better at one thing or other, and worse at something else.

The forth slot modulates the first two chips

The fifth slot modulates the effect again.

 

 

I think it might be an idea to roll slot 5 and 2 into one slot, since they do the same kinda thing.

Slot four, means rather than carrying around Shield, Area Effect and Resistance type 2s, you could just carry around area effect and the three type 4s, and these would modulate the area effect from Explosion(Offensive), Shield(Defensive) and Resistance(Passive).

 

Overall I think it is rather creative, I am just concern slightly since guns and swords pale in comparison.

I mean, are we going to run around shooting guns 99% of the time and then occassionally fire Death(1) Wide(3) Beam(2) Eyes?

Or will we rarely have any recourse to use weapons because we can run around with Seeker(3) Fire(1)Balls(2) flying from our arms 24/7?

 

My other main concern is multi-threading(Aka everyone has their own adventure) is either very slow or very complicated...or both. And in those circumstances you may be hard pressed to remember all of the various weapons people have.

Slot 1: Affinity slot. Most customizable, since there's an element for basically everything.

Slot 2: Effect slot. Doesn't have to be filled in order to do stuff, but adds extra effects like explosions on impact, added precision, and some other stuff. Putting an Elemental card in this slot gives you an effect similar to the element - fire causese burns, ice causes the area around impact to freeze, etc.

Slot 3: Specialties. Probably going to be mostly used for summoning minions, but can also be used for other stuff.

Slot 4: Basic statement of offensive (magic swords, fireballs...), defensive (elemental shields, mostly), or passive (i.e. telepathy, campfires...)

Slot 5: Basic statement of what's gonna form when you finally use the chip.

 

Slot 5 and Slot 2 are intended to remain separate, since Slot 2 dictates extra effects, and slot 5 just dictates the shape.

 

And y'know the fun part? All the guns and swords and stuff from old times supposedly got slagged in WW3 for use in planes. Then everybody blew up everybody else's hangars, spread anthrax around, and generally killed off most people. And afterwards, cybernetics ate up the diminishing supply of metals that would otherwise be used in those. After all, why use a shotgun when you can shoot the guy in front of you and thirty behind him with an ion cannon? So when it comes to guns and conventional swords, there are very, VERY few and they are valued VERY highly as antiques or fireplace pieces. However, if you want to use a gun, or a sword, or an axe/mace/whatever... there's a chip for that. And I'll probably let you start with it.

 

Oh, and something I forgot to mention - when you gain alignment with a specific type of chip, it changes your physical body a little bit. So high-alignment Ice folks will have blue-looking, cold skin, and stuff like that. It's very gradual, though.

 

As for multi-threading.... I should probably consider making one large group, and finding conventioneer plot devices for newbies joining in. So I guess I'll do it that way.

[Corvus]

Perhaps a seperate thread should be created for the purpose of discussing rules systems, so that the discussions about rules can stay seperate from discussion about other subjects?

If such a thread is made, I might even post my work in progress personal rules system that is based upon descriptors (a mixture of D&D and Shadowrun with a fair bit more lienency for making stuff up)

[The_Mather1]

I just realised that even though I spend 13-14 hours a day in front of my computer, 10-11 of them in front of my TV as well, "multi-tasking", I am still a few hours short of the time I need to do all that I want to do during a day... Guess that's what you get when playing four computer games, following five webcomics, one youtube series, two series that have to be watched on the computer, six tv-series and one forum as well as trying to keep a friend out of complete social isolation... and I don't think I should shorten my 4 hours of sleep any further.

After listing that I'm wondering how my brain can possibly keep track of that as well as school and still have time left to be bored.

[Nexaduro]

So, was rejected. Currently completely emotionally numb. Care to start Space again so there's something interesting to do with the time I have to waste Archi?

[Retech]

So, was rejected. Currently completely emotionally numb. Care to start Space again so there's something interesting to do with the time I have to waste Archi?

 

Would you like someone to talk to?

[Nexaduro]

Meh.

 

All I can say much is meh.

[The_Mather1]

A lady? If so then welcome to the club.

Urge is killing me... must... wait... 'til... you... feel... better!...

[Nexaduro]

Get it over with while I don't have much chance of response, Mather.

 

I'm hoping that I'll be able to maintain my current mindset, minus the lack of enjoyment.

[The_Mather1]

Told ya so.

Love's a [bleep], I've said that before under reversed circumstances and you told me not to put too much thought into it.

 

But I'll offer my support to help you through it. What kind of a person would I be if I didn't , seeing how I know the pain all too well myself.

[Jehosaphat]

Only 'relationship' I've been in so far was a couple years ago. Lasted for a little over a year, before she asked if I thought it would be OK if we broke up. I thought about it for a week or so, then agreed, if only on the premise that I was way too young to be "falling in love" and such. Haven't tried dating since, and I don't really intend to unless a reason for such arises.

[Nexaduro]

I just had strong feelings for her, and I thought she felt the same way. She kept tapping my feet under my desk, probably by accident, she doesn't worry about contact like most people do evidently. She looked up from her work and gave me a big smile in the middle of the same class, and kept glancing up at me. I asked her afterwords to talk to me after school (damn me for choosing such a cold day <_<), and when she came she was talking to two of her friends who I had talked to about my feelings. One of them walked with her up to me, gave a token 'I'll leave you two alone now' sort of speech and a thumbs-up grin, and walked away. We both kinda looked at our feet, I told her my feelings and she said she had known, and... I guess maybe I said something wrong. I said that I really liked her, that she had been one of the few people I would consider my friend, and after a sort of pause I asked if we should just forget about the whole thing. I think she said yes, then that she had to go, and she walked away.

 

I then took a very long, cold, circuitous route back home. Half frozen when I got back I think, but I wasn't really feeling much of anything.

[Icuownage]

I just had strong feelings for her, and I thought she felt the same way. She kept tapping my feet under my desk, probably by accident, she doesn't worry about contact like most people do evidently. She looked up from her work and gave me a big smile in the middle of the same class, and kept glancing up at me. I asked her afterwords to talk to me after school (damn me for choosing such a cold day <_<), and when she came she was talking to two of her friends who I had talked to about my feelings. One of them walked with her up to me, gave a token 'I'll leave you two alone now' sort of speech and a thumbs-up grin, and walked away. We both kinda looked at our feet, I told her my feelings and she said she had known, and... I guess maybe I said something wrong. I said that I really liked her, that she had been one of the few people I would consider my friend, and after a sort of pause I asked if we should just forget about the whole thing. I think she said yes, then that she had to go, and she walked away.

 

I then took a very long, cold, circuitous route back home. Half frozen when I got back I think, but I wasn't really feeling much of anything.

 

I'm not great at relationships (but then again I have found few who are), but if you use the word 'love', it could scare people off.

 

I dunno man, it doesn't seem like you've ruined it completely.

[Jehosaphat]

I just had strong feelings for her, and I thought she felt the same way. She kept tapping my feet under my desk, probably by accident, she doesn't worry about contact like most people do evidently. She looked up from her work and gave me a big smile in the middle of the same class, and kept glancing up at me. I asked her afterwords to talk to me after school (damn me for choosing such a cold day <_<), and when she came she was talking to two of her friends who I had talked to about my feelings. One of them walked with her up to me, gave a token 'I'll leave you two alone now' sort of speech and a thumbs-up grin, and walked away. We both kinda looked at our feet, I told her my feelings and she said she had known, and... I guess maybe I said something wrong. I said that I really liked her, that she had been one of the few people I would consider my friend, and after a sort of pause I asked if we should just forget about the whole thing. I think she said yes, then that she had to go, and she walked away.

 

I then took a very long, cold, circuitous route back home. Half frozen when I got back I think, but I wasn't really feeling much of anything.

Ouch. Very much ouch.

 

The fact that I was listening to "!,0 Your Fellow" while reading this just lent to the mood.

 

And I just realized that I really suck at being supportive.

[Resistance]

How old are you Nexaudro?

[Nexaduro]

15, as of the 1st.

 

I don't think it's a salvageable relationship sort of thing. As a friend, maybe. Never again as a romance, I'll just try to forget about it as promised. More than anything I care about those I love, even those who I could barely consider friends. Most people who've shown me even the slightest kindness, if it was a choice between my life and theirs, I'd choose them.

[The_Mather1]

Duration is no tern validd in love, a short infatuation may hurt worse than you know.

But don't give up hope, else you'll lose chances you not knew could be. Keep your heart open, someone might love thee.

 

Poetry is a good way not only to show but also to deal with emotions, it's almost incredible how just a few lines of text can act terapeutic.

 

 

G'night.

[Retech]

15, as of the 1st.

 

I don't think it's a salvageable relationship sort of thing. As a friend, maybe. Never again as a romance, I'll just try to forget about it as promised. More than anything I care about those I love, even those who I could barely consider friends. Most people who've shown me even the slightest kindness, if it was a choice between my life and theirs, I'd choose them.

 

Crap, I'm dead.

[Resistance]

At fourteen year's old you should be worrying about you're relationships you should be worrying about you're exams. You're exams decide you're future, whether you do what you love or are forced to work in an office endlessly doing accounts and such. The world is getting more competive and children today are just getting lazier and more distracted.

Why would a person want to throw away there education and waste time on an unproductive relationship? One thing that annoyed me at that age apart from the fact that intelligent people were pretty much throwing there life away was the fact that people chose to be conspicuous about it, they chose to purposefully highlight they had a girlfriend as if they were carrying around a giant status symbol. Why would a person feel the need to officially 'ask someone out'?

 

It sounds to me like her friend persuaded her to 'go out with you' and then you were too nervous to ask her. And what would happen if you did ask her out? Four months of an unproductive relationship that would probably have a negative impact on you're marks. What she seemed to be mildy flirting and you take it as some sort of deep-rooted concept like love. Whatever you did it is almost inevitable that you have created tension between yourselves and in a year it is quite possible that you will have drifted apart.

 

You need the strength to say no to these sorts of things, if you want to be great you need to suffer a little bit instead, take the straight route to greatness and forget trival little things along the way just take the straight route. Life will lead you to the right girl, but at that age all it is going to do is have a negative impact on you're marks.

[Nexaduro]

I'm already a poet, part of me has loved her for the four years we've known each other, and I know I still have a chance at loving someone. Your points are irrelevant Mather. :P

 

It's just difficult, this has been my first real experience with relationships... I've had a crush on people before, but she's the only one who I kept feeling that way about even when I lapse into pessimism or become infatuated with some other individual. Not to mention she's been the only one to hug me, though two other friends who are no longer here in my town have asked... I really kind of wish I'd hugged them, not because of any attraction but because I miss them.

[Retech]

Resistance, it is important to stop on the way to greatness.

 

These moments will shape you as much as your hard work will.

[Resistance]

Resistance, it is important to stop on the way to greatness.

 

These moments will shape you as much as your hard work will.

You stop when you're finished.

 

At fifteen providing he's British or American he will be having important exams/learning, having a girlfriend will be detrimental to that and won't put him in good stead for the future.