I'm currently trying to build up my bank by high level PvM'ing, I've been doing KK and Nex mainly. I want to start getting into top-tier bosses, (Vorago, Rots), 

What are some of the minimum requirements to get on teams for these? Currently my best gear is dual Drygores and Malevolent (Or Tetsu). 

 

I was talking to someone who said I could base tank at Vorago. If I did, would it be tough to find teams with my gear? 

For ROTS, Is it possible to kill them efficiently with Virtus wand/book? Or are Ascensions or Seismics a requirement?

 

 

For base tanking, you need drygores, malevolent/tetsu/torva, and a divine/malevolent shield. So you shouldn't have any issues finding a team as long as you actually know what you are doing.

Your gear seems fine, its more likey the 'if you know what you're doing' part that will make it tricky to get a team.

 

One of them slightly annoying circular dependencies - you need a team to learn what you're doing, but teams won't take you unless you know what you are doing.

Having friends or a clanmates that are good at Vorago/ROTS that are willing to take you and teach is pretty important. There might even be some people here that would be willing to teach you.

You can join a mass, and if I'm not wrong there's an FC on the Teamwork forums that is sometimes training people for Vorago.

Vorago base you have good gear for just need a malev.

Bomb tank would be death lotus and elysian 

Dps seis/ascs

 

Rots mh asc oh dl dart is probably the bare minimum to find consistent teams.

 

Best way to learn would be making friends take you or joining a pvm clan.

You may find teams to teach you to do vorago, that is for sure.

You won't find a team that will teach you rots. You can be carried there, but only by those that can trio it. Your only options are to PAY people to teach you, or to find three other people who don't know how to do it, and try to learn the boss.

Thats the sad truth.

fc: riseofthe6

I haven't used it yet but it's on my list to try after comp. There should be a thread in the Teamwork section on rsof.

rots isnt even worth it anymore

rots isnt even worth it anymore

 

Asseming say 8 kills per hour and 1.5 end per chest that's 5.4m off end with 300k avg loot per chest 8m p/h+shields. I'd say that's worth it. Not to mention it's also one of, if not the, most fun bosses.

 

rots isnt even worth it anymore

 

Asseming say 8 kills per hour and 1.5 end per chest that's 5.4m off end with 300k avg loot per chest 8m p/h+shields. I'd say that's worth it. Not to mention it's also one of, if not the, most fun bosses.

 

Rago is 12m+/hr and afk so

 

 

rots isnt even worth it anymore

 

Asseming say 8 kills per hour and 1.5 end per chest that's 5.4m off end with 300k avg loot per chest 8m p/h+shields. I'd say that's worth it. Not to mention it's also one of, if not the, most fun bosses.

 

Rago is 12m+/hr and afk so

 

 

Did the math earlier. let me recalculate with curent split/ens prices.

 

(1225+237)/2=731/6=121.83 drop worth

 

1/40 drop rate with ~20 minute kills (including banking and waiting) you should expect a drop every 40*20=800 minutes or every 13.3 hours

You gain 280/6 energies=46.6 energy=.365m*46.6=17m.

During 13.3 hours you use:

160 ovl doses- 19k*160=3m

160 super restores- 8.8k*160=1.4m

400 rocktails- 2.1k*400=840k

40 pnecs- 4.5k*40= .18m

160 prayer renewal doses- .25m

200 adrenaline potion doses- .27m

13 yak pouches- 50k

40% of your tectonic- .4*40.7m=16.28m

130% of seismic wand*- (1.5m/100)*130=1.95m

sing*- 1.95m/2=.975m

vboots*- .05m/100*130=.065m

vgloves*- .065m

 

Total costs= 3+1.4+.84+.18+.25+.27+.05+16.28+1.95+.975+.065+.065=

25.325m

 

Total profits per hour=121.83+17-25.325=113.5/13.3=8.53m.

 

*Assumed you’re 99 smithing and using POH anvil cause I’m lazy. 

 

So where'd you get 12m p/h from?

bc i bomb tank and get 4 normal drops/kill

 

I'm kinda just trolling for rago but in all seriousness if you have a friend group bigger than four people who are regularly on then it's for sure better to do rago than rots.  I still maintain that rots is more effort.

If you have gear + know how to do speed kills duo nex is the best gp/hr pvm atm.

If you have gear + know how to do speed kills duo nex is the best gp/hr pvm atm.

Is there proof for that? I assume sub 5 minute kills?

 

Edit: Math time! I'll be using stefanssb's nex drop statistics as my source (http://www.twitch.tv/stefanssb) and assuming 4 minute kills with 1 minute spawn time, or 5 minutes total per kill. Banking will be assumed to be 3 minutes and 1 flask trips so 33 minutes per trip.

 

Drop rate of an item=1/21 or1/3.5 trips= 1 drop per 115.5 minutes. Let's say 2 hours to keep it easy.

 

Average price of a nex item= 27.783 so splt=13.892 per 2 hours= 6.946 per hour.

Now for the normal drops.

You could expect to get on average these drops: 

1.75 onyx bolts

1.4 green dhide

1.4 rune ore

1.4 grimy torstol

1.4 magic seeds

1.3125 magic logs

1.235 coal

1 torstol seeds

.913 avantoe+dwarf

 

(Ignored b/rs, pess etc)

 

So that's worth:

Onyx: 5.6

GDH: 1.54

Rune ore: 1.218

Grimy t: .3402

Magic seeds: 1.0822

Magic logs: .6403

Coal: .6165

Torstol seeds: .1826

Avantoe and dwarf: .9906

 

Which is worth: 12.2104 ever 2 hours=6.1052 split with your partner= 3.0526

 

So 6.946+3.0526 per hour= 10m per hour.

 

This makes speed duo nex better gp/h than Vorago and potentially rots. Idk the shield drop rates for rots so I can't find the actual gp/hr.

 

Edit2: was told shield drop rates of 1/64 and keeping shields you should expect a shield every 8 hours on average (ew)

Average shield is 31m, but a bit lower in ge so we'll say 30m this adds 3.75m profit per hour so rots is 11.75m p/h.

assuming you need 90 tribrid for speed duo nex?

 

dks is also very solid money although i'm not sure how much, but it seems like at least 6-8m/hr without having too high requirements (80 mage/range + drys are probably sufficient)

assuming you need 90 tribrid for speed duo nex?

 

dks is also very solid money although i'm not sure how much, but it seems like at least 6-8m/hr without having too high requirements (80 mage/range + drys are probably sufficient)

 

Idk for sure. seis+ascs would be best, but maybe drys+ascs for the dps could work.

Seis+drys+ascs would be best because if it's praying mage anywhere but zaros phase you should be meleeing  (tbh you should probably usually be meleeing because melee dps are so good)

Seis+drys+ascs would be best because if it's praying mage anywhere but zaros phase you should be meleeing  (tbh you should probably usually be meleeing because melee dps are so good)

 

Yea but you take a lot of damage on some phases, plus I see most speed duos using seis/ascs. Also melee tanking sucks compared to mage/range tanking imo.

Since the original question was answered and the thread is alive still, I'll ask another rather then making a new thread.

 

What would the best way to find a Vorago learning team be? I'm in a high level clan, but most people in it that do Vorago do it privately and don't want to teach someone.

I've searched on the forums and found a FC that teaches Vorago, but it was sort-of out-dated.

Since the original question was answered and the thread is alive still, I'll ask another rather then making a new thread.

 

What would the best way to find a Vorago learning team be? I'm in a high level clan, but most people in it that do Vorago do it privately and don't want to teach someone.

I've searched on the forums and found a FC that teaches Vorago, but it was sort-of out-dated.

 

Make some friends in your clan and ask them to take you. Go to clan events for vorago or just ask if people are willing to teach you.

On that note what gear do you currently have and what experience do you have at other bosses?

 

Also don't underestimate Youtube guides. I know JusticeRS has a lot of vorago guides.

A good way that my clan practices and uses to teach newbies to kk and Vorago is by using the Combat beta, that way if you die you can automatically relog with full inventory and everything.

 

Make some friends in your clan and ask them to take you. Go to clan events for vorago or just ask if people are willing to teach you.

On that note what gear do you currently have and what experience do you have at other bosses?

 

Also don't underestimate Youtube guides. I know JusticeRS has a lot of vorago guides.

 

 

The only role I'd be able to do (as far as I understand) is base tanking with melee, so with that my gear is:

 

Dual Drygore longswords, full Malevolent, Razorback gauntlets, Kiln cape, Saradomins whisper, Steadfast boots, and then a Divine for my shield.

Gear really isn't the issue, I could swap to Tetsu if I did need that extra HP/defense boost.

 

I've looked at plenty of Vorago guides on youtube and read some on the RSOF, now I just need to get out there and actually attempt it.

 

As far as other bossing goes, the only ones that I have not done are rots and Vorago.